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oil prices- who to blame??

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Re: oil prices- who to blame??

Unread postby thuja » Sat 03 Nov 2007, 14:01:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billyk', 'y')ep- I probably am to blame! It's still aggravating that it is the most volitile commodity in the pits. You don't see these kinds of fluctuations with corn(although it has been higher of late), or hogs,cattle ect. I'm getting a different vehicle at the end of the year-trying to eliminate some blame! It is supposed to get 40 miles per gallon. Put a Tornado fuel saver on & who knows?? I did see a report by a BP oil analyst that said oil will be in the low 70's come next year. A few large fields will begin producing. Marathon oil is adding a large expansion onto a refinery( a whole nother post!). Yes- I'm an optimist and a small business owner. What else do we got?? billyk


Well its good to have optimism... I'm trying to keep some of mine but its hard sometimes in these times...

The main reason oil is not likely to come down significantly for any period of time is because we have reached a threshold where the world can no longer pump out any additional oil- thus Peak Oil. We very soon are likely to see a decrease in available oil by around 4 % a year...forever...scary indeed!

Just to give you an understanding of how tough that it is...in the 70's temporary embargo by Saudia Arabia- they took 5 % of oil off the markets and plunged the world in to a deep recession, caused massive inflation and eventually led to very hight interest rates. That was a temporary small cut in oil. This is a geological constraint that can't be mended and is perpetual and ever worsening. By 2030 we will be lucky to produce half the oil we are producing today.

So no- I am not trying to dampen your optimism...just to keep you up to date with what this Peak Oil community knows- that we are all to blame for being profligate with consuming so much oil so quickly without looking to alternatives a long time ago...
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Re: oil prices- who to blame??

Unread postby caliginousface » Sun 04 Nov 2007, 12:07:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billyk', 'y')ep- I probably am to blame! It's still aggravating that it is the most volitile commodity in the pits. You don't see these kinds of fluctuations with corn(although it has been higher of late), or hogs,cattle ect. I'm getting a different vehicle at the end of the year-trying to eliminate some blame! It is supposed to get 40 miles per gallon. Put a Tornado fuel saver on & who knows?? I did see a report by a BP oil analyst that said oil will be in the low 70's come next year. A few large fields will begin producing. Marathon oil is adding a large expansion onto a refinery( a whole nother post!). Yes- I'm an optimist and a small business owner. What else do we got?? billyk


I hope you were joking about that Tornado fuel saver, that thing is a scam. :)
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Re: oil prices- who to blame??

Unread postby dinopello » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 06:39:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yull', 'T')he reason oil prices are high is simple - production has been flat for around 3 years now yet demand has kept on going up.


Stop it. You are hurting my brain! It can't be that simple, can it? :P


No, it's possibly even simpler.

It is what people will pay.

Refuse to pay these prices, and the price will go down.
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Re: oil prices- who to blame??

Unread postby Lighthouse » Mon 05 Nov 2007, 10:17:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Drifter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yull', 'T')he reason oil prices are high is simple - production has been flat for around 3 years now yet demand has kept on going up.


Stop it. You are hurting my brain! It can't be that simple, can it? :P


No, it's possibly even simpler.

It is what people will pay.

Refuse to pay these prices, and the price will go down.


but the decision what they are prepared to pay and why is a bit more complicated :D
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