[Ludi]

Auto mechanics must often be able to work on more than one make and model. Brain surgeons need only work on one make and model; therefore, auto mechanics are more intelligent than brain surgeons.

[eastbay]

I should know bettter than to engage in a discussion with experts.

I think I'll wisely back away from this one.

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')et you are ready to associate one apparent characteristic (skin color: which is the consequence of myriad different genetic phenomena) with an attribute--intelligence--which hasn't even been defined adequately.

[gg3]

OK, time to euthanize this topic:

Intelligence depends as much or more so on prenatal and infant nutrition, and on infant and childhood environmental stimulation, as it does on genetics.

Intelligence tests are valid within the culture that creates them, but not across cultures.

Racial group differences are highly confounded by both of the above factors. Notably, poverty produces compromised prenatal and childhood nutrition and reduced infant and childhood stimuli, thereby producing false correlations between the ethnicity of impoverished groups and their intelligence levels. Or to put it bluntly, even if black people in the US, as a group, score below white people in the US, as a group, that result is garbage because it fails to take into account the impact of economic group differences on childhood brain development.

And last but not least, individual variation far overcomes group variance based on race. A company or other group entity (such as an army) that relies on race as a predictor of performance will fail to hire competent individuals in the discriminated group, and thereby put itself at a competitive disadvantage compared to one that is "color blind" and relies on individual measurements and performance track records.

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If someone wants to set up an ethnically or racially exclusive enclave on private land, that's their right, so long as they don't attack their neighbors. But they will be at a disadvantage compared to others nearby whose villages are diverse.

One of the key reasons for America's success in the world has been its diversity. Show me a single "-stan" that even comes close, heh. And even if our empire goes crash shortly, it will still be far ahead of the "-stans."

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', 'I')ntelligence depends as much or more so on prenatal and infant nutrition, and on infant and childhood environmental stimulation, as it does on genetics.

[Ayoob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utnK4o-jvzk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w

[jasonraymondson]

SAT TESTS PROVE IT

Take a look at the chart

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ncome2.png

[eastbay]

jay, I thought you were leaving us for awhile.

Maybe you came back sooner than you thought you would. If so, welcome back!

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'j')ay, I thought you were leaving us for awhile.

Maybe you came back sooner than you thought you would. If so, welcome back!

[aardvarkthumper]

Here is THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE POLITICAL INCORRECT SUBJECT IN THE WORLD.
Click here, if you are brave and un hypnotized.
could you ... handle the truth?

There are adjutor shills on this site (everywhere) who will solar flare on this one, the whole job of the see eye ay is to prevent this knowledge from becoming known, they ARE the order...
and to label the Z'ss, who are their front that will take the fall for all of it. Just a big lie. Of course the Z's do things. they are the pawns. The protocols of the elders were written by the ORDER- proof- They have followed all of the protocols themselves, every one. Right?... Illumminatty level 2. ORDER level one.
Room is spinning. Sit down. You talk of the ORDER and the hammer comes down.

They want the "truthers" to respond and they want an uprising so they can declare marshall law both are coming. The Maher truthers were this order, they weren't even arrested. When the police arrive the first thing they said was "REMOVE THOSE HANDCUFFS" and they released them. Right there. THIS IS THE PLAN, SERIOUS. Hill will be the hammer to bring marshall to dinner.
They are fomenting it. 90% of the truther sites are this controlled fomenters doing their job. Don't fall for it. Be quiet, do not join the coming uprising, it will be crushed and it will be the excuse they need. Warning, mind your own business,get ready to hunker down.
Metal buildings, don't come down from kerosene, that is elementary. To expose their work they are looking for a larger advantage, the expected uprising, and planned marshal law.
The vids that allow to remain of google are all shills doing their job, the ones like above get pulled constantly. There are no aliens. Area 51 "ufo's" is a continuous Psy-op coverup for paperclip/weapons development, usually to distract from a nearby test. Bye.

proof jones explanation

STOP BEING SO GULLIBLE, PEOPLE.
Anything allowed on Google can only be a setup.
Unless it keeps disappearing quickly.
Bye.

[aardvarkthumper]

And this one is for one step up on the no touch zone:
Our favorite candidate, if only he would get a chance!

(It's almost like thinking Ross Parrot wasn't a setup by the right to spl;it off enough votes to get clito in.
no joke)

Oh no! Don't touch Rhon Phaul!

(C'mon, you din't really think there was a truly independant candidate out there, did you?
I have a bridge to sell you...)

Onray aulpay

[Plantagenet]

Senator Joe Biden (Dem-Del). attempted to explain why some schools perform better than others -- in Iowa, for instance, compared with the District. "There's less than 1 percent of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4 or 5 percent that are minorities. What is in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with," Biden said.

[kadoomsoon]

amazing legislation lately.

[kadoomsoon]

erase duplicalte.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', 'O')ur contitution has now been repudiated.

[kadoomsoon]

constitution and bill of rights are good. Patriot act is bad.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', 'O')ur contitution has now been repudiated.

[Carlhole]

Created Equal

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Slate', 'L')ast month, James Watson, the legendary biologist, was condemned and forced into retirement after claiming that African intelligence wasn't "the same as ours." "Racist, vicious and unsupported by science," said the Federation of American Scientists. "Utterly unsupported by scientific evidence," declared the U.S. government's supervisor of genetic research. The New York Times told readers that when Watson implied "that black Africans are less intelligent than whites, he hadn't a scientific leg to stand on."

I wish these assurances were true. They aren't. Tests do show an IQ deficit, not just for Africans relative to Europeans, but for Europeans relative to Asians. Economic and cultural theories have failed to explain most of the pattern, and there's strong preliminary evidence that part of it is genetic. It's time to prepare for the possibility that equality of intelligence, in the sense of racial averages on tests, will turn out not to be true.

If this suggestion makes you angry—if you find the idea of genetic racial advantages outrageous, socially corrosive, and unthinkable—you're not the first to feel that way. Many Christians are going through a similar struggle over evolution. Their faith in human dignity rests on a literal belief in Genesis. To them, evolution isn't just another fact; it's a threat to their whole value system. As William Jennings Bryan put it during the Scopes trial, evolution meant elevating "supposedly superior intellects," "eliminating the weak," "paralyzing the hope of reform," jeopardizing "the doctrine of brotherhood," and undermining "the sympathetic activities of a civilized society."

The same values—equality, hope, and brotherhood—are under scientific threat today. But this time, the threat is racial genetics, and the people struggling with it are liberals...

[rdberg1957]

Intelligence tests are not bullshit, but it is not entirely clear what they measure. Most probably, they provide a measure of verbal and mathematical abilities. What Plantagenet says is most likely correct, that there are many types of intelligence including social, emotional, mechanical, etc. I think genetics plays a substantial role in transmission of various types of intelligence. But culture shapes the way intellgence is used. Jews in the US congregate in some occupational fields based on their history of valuing the written word. African-Americans tend not to congregate in the sciences, more often in business and literary fields. This is not to say that there are not great African-American physicists (there are) and great Jewish mechanics (don't know really), but certainly culture is shaping the occupational choices of various ethnic groups and the way members of each group chooses to use what "intelligence" they have.

It is true that Asians tend to perform better than Caucasians on intelligence tests developed by Caucasians. What accounts for this? Not sure, but it is a great unsupportable leap to infer superiority of one group over another based on intelligence test scores.