[threadbear]

Watson's views, were they taken seriously, would end up denying the blacks their humanity, to an even more profound degree than they are today.

Look at medievil whites, they were oppressed by ongoing war, the Catholic church etc.. etc...They lived marginal existences in huts too. Public torture and hangings and disembowelings were not merely tolerated, they were public entertaiments.

Many of the problems black Africans have are similar to the problems the disenfranchised have everywhere. As an individual, or a whole society, once you have reached a certain low point, and your culture has been destroyed, it's almost impossible to pull yourself up.

Watson has an IQ of only 117, which is evidence that you don't even need to be genius, by his own criteria, to achieve great things.

[lys3rg0]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'W')atson's views, were they taken seriously, would end up denying the blacks their humanity, to an even more profound degree than they are today.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lys3rg0', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'W')atson's views, were they taken seriously, would end up denying the blacks their humanity, to an even more profound degree than they are today.

[Plantagenet]

Science isn't about what makes you feel good or what you "believe with all your heart" or what the good padre or commissar told you is right. Science is about understanding the natural world around us, whether the facts are "PC" or not.

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"The overwhelming desire of society today is to assume that equal powers of reason are a universal heritage of humanity.

It may well be.

But simply wanting this to be the case is not enough. This is not science. To question this is not to give in to racism. This is not a discussion about superiority or inferiority, it is about seeking to understand differences, about why some of us are great musicians and others great engineers."

--Dr. James Watson

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'W')atson's views, were they taken seriously, would end up denying the blacks their humanity, to an even more profound degree than they are today.

[Carlhole]

There has got to be a genetic variance to cognitive ability. It's quite obvious that there is a genetic variance to body size, athleticism, etc.

There has to be genetic variance that affects density of neurons, synaptic branching and physical things like that too. There has to be a physical explanation for unusual intelligence - the kind you see in the occasional child prodigy who amazes everyone.

So there's going to be genetic variation between individuals within any racial group and there's bound to be variation between groups who are even less genetically similar.

The brain is just another physical structure. And since it's the most complex physical structure in the human organism, it must have have complex variances. And it stands to reason that Nature would prefer it that way since Nature throws the genetic dice, the structure of the brain governs behavior, behavior governs survival and survival governs the widespread adoption of any advantage.

Personally, I think if we could breed people as quickly and we do dogs, it wouldn't take very long before several entirely new races developed, probably all of which would make mental midgets out of everyone here.

[Gigashadow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'S')cience isn't about what makes you feel good or what you "believe with all your heart" or what the good padre or commissar told you is right. Science is about understanding the natural world around us, whether the facts are "PC" or not.

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"The overwhelming desire of society today is to assume that equal powers of reason are a universal heritage of humanity.

It may well be.

But simply wanting this to be the case is not enough. This is not science. To question this is not to give in to racism. This is not a discussion about superiority or inferiority, it is about seeking to understand differences, about why some of us are great musicians and others great engineers."

--Dr. James Watson

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'S')cience isn't about what makes you feel good or what you "believe with all your heart" or what the good padre or commissar told you is right. Science is about understanding the natural world around us, whether the facts are "PC" or not.

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"The overwhelming desire of society today is to assume that equal powers of reason are a universal heritage of humanity.

It may well be.

But simply wanting this to be the case is not enough. This is not science. To question this is not to give in to racism. This is not a discussion about superiority or inferiority, it is about seeking to understand differences, about why some of us are great musicians and others great engineers."

--Dr. James Watson

[kabu]

my sis had a genetics prof at ubc who maintained that intelligence and penis size were inversely proportional. i can't remember if he actually had some sort of a semi-logical argument for this, or if it was just because he was a silly, old man that had, in his youth, maybe derived this idea from racial stereotypes, so that he could console himself over his small penis!

[Ayoob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', 'm')y sis had a genetics prof at ubc who maintained that intelligence and penis size were inversely proportional. i can't remember if he actually had some sort of a semi-logical argument for this, or if it was just because he was a silly, old man that had, in his youth, maybe derived this idea from racial stereotypes, so that he could console himself over his small penis!

[lys3rg0]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'I') think it's actually testicle size, and the correlation was inverse for monogamy.

[Gigashadow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gigashadow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'S')cience isn't about what makes you feel good or what you "believe with all your heart" or what the good padre or commissar told you is right. Science is about understanding the natural world around us, whether the facts are "PC" or not.

------------------------

"The overwhelming desire of society today is to assume that equal powers of reason are a universal heritage of humanity.

It may well be.

But simply wanting this to be the case is not enough. This is not science. To question this is not to give in to racism. This is not a discussion about superiority or inferiority, it is about seeking to understand differences, about why some of us are great musicians and others great engineers."

--Dr. James Watson

[Gigashadow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Planters Peanut', '(')and available data suggest that 60-80% of intelligence is genetically controlled)

[eastbay]

Well, I would prefer someone who scored over 130 on an IQ test doing my open heart surgery rather than someone who scored under 70.

C'mon pstarr and the others, tell me it wouldn't matter to you what your doctor's IQ test score was.

Of course it matters.