THE Dream Thread (merged)

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Sun 23 Jan 2005, 18:55:51

Here's a totally off-topic issue that hasn't been touched here as far as I know. Things haven't gotten real bad yet and we still have our lives to live, right? I have always found dreams to be endlessly fascinating, so here are a few of mine and one from someone else for which I offered an interpretation. Dream 1: I have returned to my old High School as an adult. There are a couple of nerdy kids, one boy and one girl, trapped inside a big wire cage for which I have the key. I go to let them out and as I turn the key, the kids in their utter rush to escape push on the door and break the key. Dream 2: The big baseball stadium has been replaced with several little baseball parks. The athletes with their bats keep knocking every pitch over the stands and out of the stadium indicating that the parks are too small. Dream 3: I am riding home from elementary school as a little kid riding on a Harley Davidson motorcycle. I'm riding the back way behind the school which leads to a deep ravine where I get off the bike to walk through the ravine to get home and have a bowl or three of cocoa crispies. There is water flowing through the ravine. In the water are hundreds of little shrimp crickets. I am spellbound and delighted by these little creatures as I tip toe across the ravine. I come to the opposite bank and wasps fly out of a hole in the bank and I wake up in a fright. Yes, its the royal road to the unconscious. Here's the dream told to me by someone I work with: he sees the letters 'amnokave' written on the wall. He asked me what it means. My theory was that amnokave is 'amniotic cave' with 'i' and 'tic' removed. The 'I' is the conscious awake self and the 'tic' is hightened nervous activity that comes with being awake. He was telling himself not to wake up yet but sleep more instead.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Sun 23 Jan 2005, 19:58:58

Fair enough, that's a sensible approach. There's obviously no telling for sure about these things. I read Freud's Interpretation Of Dreams and found it to be compelling, myself. Dreams are a phenomenon of the psyche and so I figure they mean something.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Sun 23 Jan 2005, 20:45:06

PMS

that's fine. I did find some of Freud's writings to be murky and unconvicing. The Interpretation Of Dreams book, however and several others were brilliant and I think he made some genuine, valuable discoveries. Jung is good to read too, though a bit on the mystical side. There was a thread in this forum a while ago where people were classifying themselves based upon Jung's theory of the four basic human pscychic components: intuition, emotion, sensuality, and intellect. If I remember it correctly, Jung was saying people tend to show a couple of these things in their makeup while leaving the others undeveloped. Example: new age, left leaning people are more intuitive and sensual while conservative people tend to be emotional and intellectual. Jung's point was that all four of these things need to be developed to be a fully realized person.

by **BabyPeanut** » Sun 23 Jan 2005, 20:45:43

amnokave is an anagram for demoniak

amnocave is an anagram for demoniac

by **BabyPeanut** » Sun 23 Jan 2005, 20:46:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BabyPeanut', 'a')mnokave is an anagram for demoniak

amnocave is an anagram for demoniac

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 24 Jan 2005, 01:16:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BabyPeanut', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BabyPeanut', 'a')mnokave is an anagram for demoniak

amnocave is an anagram for demoniac

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 24 Jan 2005, 18:45:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MikeB', ' ')
When I have a weird dream now, I don't bother fretting over "interpretation": I just enjoy it. Or forget it.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 24 Jan 2005, 20:52:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MikeB', '
')I'm a former lit. student (now a lit. prof) who doesn't like lit. much anymore. "Interpretation" can be such a joke...

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 24 Jan 2005, 21:31:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MikeB', 'P')en...ing It's fun to teach. I just don't go out of my way to read novels anymore. I'd prefer to play fiddle.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 24 Jan 2005, 21:50:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MikeB', 'P')enman:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd what about you teaching something you don't give a crap about?

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 24 Jan 2005, 22:39:27

OK, you're alright by me my friend. Faulkner, Shakespeare, bless the creative writers. I'm watching The Gangs of New York right now and find it marvelous. I actually logged out of the movie to hear you! I just wish that smallpoxgirl would respond.

Quote from The Gangs Of New York: you can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half.

by **RIPSmithianEconomics** » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 03:59:43

My dreams are pretty disturbing. Last night I was in New York again and it was empty except for pets and buses.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Tue 25 Jan 2005, 08:48:01

Were the pets driving the buses? Freud teaches that little inconspicuous aspects of dreams will lead to bigger meanings when you free-associate them.

by **katkinkate** » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 05:30:11

[quote="PenultimateManStanding"].... Dreams are a phenomenon of the psyche and so I figure they mean something.[/quote]

My understanding of dreams are that they come from your psyche and the one best qualified to 'interpret' them is yourself. The images mean more to you in their dream context than anyone else and no-one else can really say what meaning your mind attaches to them.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Thu 27 Jan 2005, 14:04:37

katkinkate - that's a cute user name, I like it. I agree with your point but would add that I think Freud made a very good study of the issue and reading his Interpretation of Dreams provides one with good tools to look into the meaning of one's own dreams. MikeB brought up the issue of Freud debunked. I think it was mainly the therapeutic aspects which got debunked. I, for one would not go in for any transference even if I could. I had only one father and he died a long time ago.

by **KiddieKorral** » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 06:34:23

I had a bizarre dream last night. DC was nuked and I was the only one who wanted to get out of town. Everyone else was completely oblivious, even after I told them what happened.

by **katkinkate** » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 06:57:56

PenultimateManStanding, I have to admit I haven't actually read anything written by Freud. Just a little about him by others and from what I have heard/read I prefer Jung.

by **BabyPeanut** » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 07:49:14

Last night I dreamed that Andy Warhol was a drug dealer, all the sex and drug parties where the source of the money that he spent buying art and promoting his art and scene. I dreamed he was in bed eight women and one of them was Maryln Monroe. Somebody asked him as question but I can't remember what it was now and he answered "Maryln" in a very matter-of-fact way. Then he had to get up to get more pot.

by **PenultimateManStanding** » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 12:21:03

BP, I was sorry to hear about your affliction. Good luck and keep your spirits up. Regarding your dream, hmmmm. Herr Doktor Freud wants to look into the Marilyn Monroe/Andy Warhol situation and the oedipus complex. . .

by **uNkNowN ElEmEnt** » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 13:01:24

I had a dream my twin daughters were babies again and we went to the top of the Sears tower to look out. The sea had risen to the height of the sears tower, so when we looked out there was this dark stormy sea threatening to overflow and sweep us away.

one of my daughters toddled away from me and got caught in the water and I had to fish her out. Weird man!

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