[Ferretlover]

btu, maybe we ought to start nagging that congressional caucus?

Early in my 'life' here @ PO, I also asked the question 'why aren't more people aware of PO, and shouldn't we be trying to spread the word?'
Most of the people here informed me that they had been trying to do that, to no avail.
People who do not discover it on their own, do not believe PO nor do they Want to believe it.
And, TPTB have no financial interest in promoting awareness, indeed, they have all the reasons in the world for keeping the problem hidden as long as possible to further their agendas.

If we could find some eager reporter, we might get a story written, but I doubt that there would be little, if any, interest by the general public unless a way can be found to scare the sh*t out of them!
I don't know if people ever lived by thinking ahead, or solving problems before they became problems. It has always been my experience that people will only react to an immediate problem. And, then only the most astute people will pay any attention to it--this does not mean they will do anything about it.
I am hoping that more will become aware sooner than later, but I am resigned to the fact that the majority of people will not believe or even consider the affects of PO until it is too late for them.
Even if we were somehow able to make every person on this planet PO aware, I am afraid that there would still only be a small percentage of people who would make any effort to make any changes. Look how long people have been talking about global warming.
I do agree that education is an important part of the learning process regarding PO, and everything else humans have done to the planet. But, those of you with small children will be extremely important in making your children aware of what has happened, why it happened, and impress upon their tender minds that they must develop ways to save what will be left of society and the planet.
The odds are against us.
For those who still want to make an effort to make others PO aware, use whatever skills and ideas you have developed in your lifetime, and I wish you the best of luck. Truly.
You might want to consider that before worrying about implementation, that you actually have a plan/story/reasonable ideas to present first.
You can not force people to believe or to react the way you hope they will if you 'hem & haw' about what PO is. You will have no credibility.
And, be prepared. Some people are Very dense and won't understand what you are saying and the implications-No Matter How Hard You Try.
Maybe it would be best if only those who figured it out survive.

[threadbear]

I'm concerned with resource wars, (regardless of whether oil is diminishing rapidly) and I worry about multinational corporations battling governments for control and market expansion. We had time to plan for the Iraq war, but we won't have that luxury of planning for an Iran attack as the US will want the element of surprise.

I've moved to a small island where the deer outnumber people, live beneath my means, can heat my place with wood, and most importantly, have stored dehydrated food, in the event of a supply disruption.

Storage of dehydrated food, buys time. You can do this anywhere you live. I think it's the single most important measure a person can take. Of all the things I've done to prepare, this was the cheapest and likely the most useful for a variety of potential disasters.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '[')...] TPTB have no financial interest in promoting awareness, indeed, they have all the reasons in the world for keeping the problem hidden as long as possible to further their agendas.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'W')e had time to plan for the Iraq war, but we won't have that luxury of planning for an Iran attack as the US will want the element of surprise.

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('btu2012', '1'). A program to achieve population reduction on a worldwide scale, as much as possible through ethical and non-coercive means.

[Nicholai]

I was watching a clip of George Galloway (just after his win in a central London constituency, he's a socialist) being interviewed by a British media personality. George came on the screen and the first question he received was, "How do you feel now that you have beaten out one of the ONLY black women in parliament?"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SlE5cTcYZbs

At this point I just thought to myself, "I want to see this all come down."

It's hard to engage billions of people when you're stuck in our current media paradigm of show business and profit chasing. It's hard to engage people when there are iPods, XBoxs, Halo etc. Its hard to engage people when they can't notice the immediate effects, and therefore understand the severity. We are a reactionary species and I feel that our wonderful one-night-stand with petroleum is coming to an end whether we understand it or not. Eventually, even if we do implement renewables to an effective scale, our depletion rate will eventually catch up. Our growth will be stopped and then our current rates of demand will be unachievable.

I did a project on Global Warming in gr.7 (in 2000) and people thought I was crazy. Most university students didnt even know about the general idea. I couldn't explain it at the time, but most people couldn't formulate that petroleum was tossing off the carbon scale. Putting more carbon in the air meant that more energy was in the atmosphere. More energy = more severe/frequent storms and other extreme events. Peak Oil will ensure that the global warming problem is capped, to an extent, and for this I'm glad. I didn't really come to a conclusion in this point but I'm just sort of venting.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nicholai', ' ')Peak Oil will ensure that the global warming problem is capped, to an extent, and for this I'm glad. I didn't really come to a conclusion in this point but I'm just sort of venting.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'T')hat's what I'm asking. HOW to do it.

[jbeckton]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'O')ne of the questions asked of the democratic contenders the other night was, "Would you favor a $3.00/gal gasoline tax in order to stimulate conservation and the development of renewables?" They all said "NO".

[mommy22]

In terms of overpopulation, does anyone know if this is discussed at all in the public schools? I'm going to ask my 8th grader tonight if anything like that is ever discussed in health class, or math, or social studies. In our school system, the often have theme weeks, where the grade will study an issue as it affects all areas of life. For ex: now they are studying Am.Hist from a perspective of all the courses (math, science, soc. studies, etc..) I think that if anything were to be done about population control, it should be addressed in the public schools. There are families in my neighborhood with more than 10 kids, and they don't seem to have a clue about this issue.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'S')tarting a grass-roots PO movement so strong that MSM (and later TPTB) acknowledge PO.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'S')tarting a grass-roots PO movement so strong that MSM (and later TPTB) acknowledge PO.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow would these proposals be implemented?


That's my main problem with these "Let's come up with a Plan!" threads. Nobody ever talks about how they would be presented to the public and implemented.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbeckton', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')One of the questions asked of the democratic contenders the other night was, "Would you favor a $3.00/gal gasoline tax in order to stimulate conservation and the development of renewables?"

They all said "NO".

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('btu2012', '[')Ludi, can you provide details about how you're working to raise awareness of PO among the public ?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('btu2012', 'T')he real problem is how to break this to the public (this includes some elected politicians) in a manner which won't produce total panic.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nicholai', 'I') was watching a clip of George Galloway (just after his win in a central London constituency, he's a socialist) being interviewed by a British media personality. George came on the screen and the first question he received was, "How do you feel now that you have beaten out one of the ONLY black women in parliament?"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SlE5cTcYZbs

.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('btu2012', 'T')he real problem is how to break this to the public (this includes some elected politicians) in a manner which won't produce total panic.

[Ludi]

It's hard to tell the difference between people just not caring, and people being too scared to even think about it. At least in my experience, folks show an almost complete lack of interest in the subject. That seems to be the experience of many people here on the board who have discussed it with friends and relatives. Many of us have to a large extent given up trying to convince others of the peak oil problem.

There are several threads about this in the Psychology forum.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')t's hard to tell the difference between people just not caring, and people being too scared to even think about it. At least in my experience, folks show an almost complete lack of interest in the subject. That seems to be the experience of many people here on the board who have discussed it with friends and relatives. Many of us have to a large extent given up trying to convince others of the peak oil problem.

There are several threads about this in the Psychology forum.