[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e should be able to televise the apocalypse.

[Snowstorm]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spi ... 56,00.html

Climate change may just make Greenland may be one of the best locations to be for peak oil, ever increasing growing season and land area from melted glaciers. Te article above describes some of the changes going on there now. I can imagine a future conflict though between Greenland and Denmark over independence for Greenland in the future, although now Greenland is pretty dependent on Denmark, but as Greenland gets a more favorable climate at the same time low-lying Denmark gets progressively swamped by the rising sea levels, Greenland may just want nothing to do with Denmark in the future.

[M_B_S]

http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... 49,00.html and http://business.iafrica.com/features/698813.htm

1000 years ago the wikings came to greenland , now BIG OIL is on the move. The wikings are all dead! Maybe BIG OIL tomorrow NO OIL!

[roccman]

Let's see - ice cube on top of GL slips into Atlantic...and we get to drill for more oil...

excellent!!

Know what they say...when life hands you lemons...make lemonade.

[vox_mundi]

Looks like we'll have a 'nasty' surprise when the ice melts.

BBC - Mystery of lost US nuclear bomb

The United States abandoned a nuclear weapon beneath the ice in northern Greenland following a crash in 1968, a BBC investigation has found.

A declassified US government video, obtained by the BBC, documents the clear-up and gives some ideas of the scale of the operation.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Pentagon maintained that all four weapons had been "destroyed".

This may be technically true, since the bombs were no longer complete, but declassified documents obtained by the BBC under the US Freedom of Information Act, parts of which remain classified, reveal a much darker story, which has been confirmed by individuals involved in the clear-up and those who have had access to details since.

The documents make clear that within weeks of the incident, investigators piecing together the fragments realised that only three of the weapons could be accounted for.

[mos6507]

Wow, it's like a really low-level Chernobyl.

[Tanada]

Radioactive metals with long half lives like Uranium-235 and Pu-239 are slightly warmer than ambiant due to their inherent spontaneous fission rate, enough so that on an ice shelf like this they will have long since have melted their way all the way through the shelf and settled on the seafloor below.

Not at all comparable to Chernobyl where the deadly radiation came from fission fragments, the short half lived results of fission that have an average half life of 600 years and a deadly period of years.

[copious.abundance]

Maybe this is really why they call it Greenland.

[Specop_007]

I'm not really seeing any "nasty suprises".......

[Tanada]

New picture released demonstrating Greenland glacier retreat in the first half of the decade.

PICTURE

[leal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snowstorm', 'h')ttp://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,434356,00.html

Climate change may just make Greenland may be one of the best locations to be for peak oil, ever increasing growing season and land area from melted glaciers. Te article above describes some of the changes going on there now. I can imagine a future conflict though between Greenland and Denmark over independence for Greenland in the future, although now Greenland is pretty dependent on Denmark, but as Greenland gets a more favorable climate at the same time low-lying Denmark gets progressively swamped by the rising sea levels, Greenland may just want nothing to do with Denmark in the future.

[sjn]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'N')ew picture released demonstrating Greenland glacier retreat in the first half of the decade.

PICTURE

[oddone]

Did Greenland have a warmer, hospitable climate in the years ad 900-1300 when the vikings settled and grew to ca 10 000 population there?
In ca ad1300 the climate changed to what we have seen up to now, and the communities there collapsed (also described in Jared Diamond's book "Collapse..."

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oddone', 'D')id Greenland have a warmer, hospitable climate in the years ad 900-1300 when the vikings settled and grew to ca 10 000 population there?
In ca ad1300 the climate changed to what we have seen up to now, and the communities there collapsed (also described in Jared Diamond's book "Collapse..."

[sjn]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oddone', 'D')id Greenland have a warmer, hospitable climate in the years ad 900-1300 when the vikings settled and grew to ca 10 000 population there?
In ca ad1300 the climate changed to what we have seen up to now, and the communities there collapsed (also described in Jared Diamond's book "Collapse..."

[dohboi]

And keep in mind that slight varations in the path, speed and temperature of the Gulf Stream (thermohaline circulation) can greatly affect conditions in the Northern Atlantic. It has recently extended into around Scandinavia giving Finland some of its warmest winter and spring weather on record (helped along by general GW in this case).

[billg]

Must see video of Greenland melting (2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F9FbdqGRsg

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billg', 'M')ust see video of Greenland melting (2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F9FbdqGRsg

[Tanada]

This map, from Weather Underground, shows that most of the ice sheet south of the 65th parallel has shown an increase in number of days per year of melting of up to 30 days over the prior average.

For those who didn't know 65 North and South are considered key latitudes in ice sheet/glaciation dynamics, when the energy level of incoming solar radiation (insolation) exceeds a critical value ice sheets melt, when it falls below another lower value ice sheets expand rapidly. If anyone can tell me what the insolation level is in this region of Greenland this summer I would appreciate it, Google and Yahoo searches have not turned up anything for me.

Greenland melt days.jpg

[Cid_Yama]

Solar insolation data