[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'S')hannymara if you broke into my house in the middle of the night I would give you my valuables , pour you a warm glass of milk with honey and then make you waffles with REAL maple syrup .

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', 'J')esus, is everyone on here a gun nut?

[ZombieHordeLeader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'Z')ombieHordeLeader, why are you asking about this? Are you gathering data for someone, trying to decide who to rob, or just curious?

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('worrier', 'O')n a serious note, to those that say they can respond to a situation with a gun almost instantly do they have children living with them? Do they ever have visitors staying with children? If their gun is quickly retrievable (as in not in a gun safe) and doesn't have a trigger lock on it they could end up with a dead kid. Kids can be tricky, sneaky little beggars and could end up playing with that gun. Kids also do dumb things. That equation could easily equal a dead kid.

[frankthetank]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')e: If I broke into your home in the middle of the night

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')e: If I broke into your home in the middle of the night

[AlCzervik]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', 'J')esus, is everyone on here a gun nut?

[jboogy]

Strange , me and my son worship at the alter of bacon but the wife and daughter are vegetarian . We have strange dinners .ZombieGod , you are mistaken , there is nothing cute about Jdumars's "cat" , that is the reaper beast that ferries old peoples souls across the river Styx and into the netherworld , you would be wise not to test his patience with mortals. And I must take exception to your refering to me as one of the more violent posters in this thread , all I got is dogs , remoteness , and a popgun next to the door . Everyone else here is ready to be air-dropped into Baghdad , armaments wise.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlCzervik', ' ')This crew scares me and sometimes reminds me of this guy.

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[Ludi]

Just want to put in my two cents here as a pacifist and liberal who supports the right of individuals to own guns.

[Angry_Chimp]

A NATION OF COWARDS
http://rkba.org/comment/cowards.html

Jeffrey R. Snyder


The Tyranny of the Elite
Gun control is a moral crusade against a benighted, barbaric citizenry. This is demonstrated not only by the ineffectualness of gun control in preventing crime, and by the fact that it focuses on restricting the behavior of the law-abiding rather than apprehending and punishing the guilty, but also by the execration that gun control proponents heap on gun owners and their evil instrumentality, the NRA. Gun owners are routinely portrayed as uneducated, paranoid rednecks fascinated by and prone to violence, i.e., exactly the type of person who opposes the liberal agenda and whose moral and social "re-education" is the object of liberal social policies. Typical of such bigotry is New York Gov. Mario Cuomo's famous characterization of gun-owners as "hunters who drink beer, don't vote, and lie to their wives about where they were all weekend." Similar vituperation is rained upon the NRA, characterized by Sen. Edward Kennedy as the "pusher's best friend," lampooned in political cartoons as standing for the right of children to carry firearms to school and, in general, portrayed as standing for an individual's God-given right to blow people away at will.

The stereotype is, of course, false. As criminologist and constitutional lawyer Don B. Kates, Jr. and former HCI contributor Dr. Patricia Harris have pointed out, "[s]tudies consistently show that, on the average, gun owners are better educated and have more prestigious jobs than non-owners.... Later studies show that gun owners are less likely than non-owners to approve of police brutality, violence against dissenters, etc."

Conservatives must understand that the antipathy many liberals have for gun owners arises in good measure from their statist utopianism. This habit of mind has nowhere been better explored than in The Republic. There, Plato argues that the perfectly just society is one in which an unarmed people exhibit virtue by minding their own business in the performance of their assigned functions, while the government of philosopher-kings, above the law and protected by armed guardians unquestioning in their loyalty to the state, engineers, implements, and fine-tunes the creation of that society, aided and abetted by myths that both hide and justify their totalitarian manipulation.

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[Olaf]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'O')laf that is a wicked looking helmet , is it yours or does your group share a common collection? did you have it made to your design?How much would something like that cost ?Is one of the women fighting in a subsequent photo wearing a wedding dress?Sorry if this post seems like work but you've piqued my curiosity .

[eastbay]

I suspect that rather than being surprised in my bed... etc...etc...

Yeah, Turtle... maybe so. Probably so.

But the topic of this thread was about being surprised while in bed. Not a scenario with one of us surprising an intruder on the stairs or in the kitchen or anywhere else.

I interpreted that to mean, 'I'm in bed, sound asleep, and someone with a handgun aimed into my groggy eyes wakes me up.' It's certainly doubtful that could happen to most of us, but that was the unlikely scenario outlined in the first posting here.

In that particular scenario there's nothing any of us could do unless you sleep nightly with a cocked, loaded, and south-pointing firearm, which I suspect few do.

[Laughs_Last]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '.').. bunch of keyboard toughies, all of you!

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'u')nless you sleep nightly with a cocked, loaded, and south-pointing firearm, which I suspect few do.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', ' ')It's certainly doubtful that could happen to most of us, but that was the unlikely scenario outlined in the first posting here.

In that particular scenario there's nothing any of us could do unless you sleep nightly with a cocked, loaded, and south-pointing firearm, which I suspect few do.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('worrier', 'O')n a serious note, to those that say they can respond to a situation with a gun almost instantly do they have children living with them? Do they ever have visiters staying with children? If their gun is quickly retrievable (as in not in a gun safe) and doesn't have a trigger lock on it they could end up with a dead kid. Kids can be tricky, sneaky little beggars and could end up playing with that gun. Kids also do dumb things. That equation could easily equal a dead kid.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'u')nless you sleep nightly with a cocked, loaded, and south-pointing firearm, which I suspect few do.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'I')n that particular scenario there's nothing any of us could do unless you sleep nightly with a cocked, loaded, and south-pointing firearm, which I suspect few do.