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THE Kid Stuff Thread (merged)

Unread postby EnviroEngr » Thu 24 Jun 2004, 01:23:03

I've had a request to create a space for our younger and/or less experienced posters.

I'm going to try this for awhile to see how it goes. From a generational stance, it makes a great deal of sense to bring in the concerns of those otherwise too shy to get involved.
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Unread postby Aaron » Thu 24 Jun 2004, 11:27:36

The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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things kids say

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Thu 20 Jan 2005, 15:03:06

my daughter was home sick yesterday and spent the day on the couch. she was watching our 3 month old kitten, who, while purring up a storm, was racing around the house as cats will do. she turns to me and says "hey mom, we have a Purrari". (as in a purring ferrari)

I'm still giggling. :-D
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Unread postby Apathy » Thu 20 Jan 2005, 15:32:32

Even I can't help but smile at young children sometimes. Probably because Shame and Fear (a couple of thugs from around the block) never take the time to get to them? Whatever...
Did you know there is a second set of twins in my family? They are much younger than me and Sloth, there are Innocence and Purity. Pretty active little duo, but very small, and both very fragile. They're faraid of everything - seriously. It seems that every time they do something they manage to get hurt, and wherever they might be found, everyone wants to see them and take part in their games. Even big brother Barbarism wants a piece of them whenever he gets the chance, though maybe not with the best of intentions.

I could just hear grand-pa now, saying something like 'Peak oil or not, hunger or feast, these two are something we will always look forward to.' Or something to the effect of they being the reason why life is worth while, so precious ladidadidadidadida or some boring thing I never really listen to that old guy. *sigh* He's always talking.
Strange though how in most humans they seem to be invisible? But no matter who, if you look hard enough, there is always a fragment of them two in even the hardest nosed amongst those humans...

*sigh* I think Sloth is asleep, so I'll stop typing now. I'm certain my unceasing pecking of the board is disturbing him somehow and giving him nightmares, but he's too busy sleeping to let me now. He's a tough read sometimes. I think the best part about him is that he never really makes any noise? Like, whatever anyhow right? I'd better get some chips, he'll be hungry when he wakes up...
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Unread postby skateari » Fri 21 Jan 2005, 02:08:15

you got a smart daughter UE.. putting two words together like that is pretty impressive. Sorry for the off-topic post last time btw. :wink:
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Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Fri 21 Jan 2005, 02:32:44

No problem, I totally empathize. I got sick of wanting to feed the trolls, I was a good girl in my last life, but in this one... Its been a real chore.
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Unread postby K9P » Fri 21 Jan 2005, 10:36:20

In the little darling vein...
My daughter, overhearing us discussing retinal scans and ID checks for travellers said "Urrggh that's disgusting! Will they ask to see my bottom at the airport?"
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Unread postby PenultimateManStandin » Fri 21 Jan 2005, 16:51:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skateari', 's')erious man what kind of crack have you been smoking today? Are all your posts this wacked out?
Even the cleverest joke gets old and annoying if you repeat it ad nauseum. Who need's crack when you already have misanthropy?
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Unread postby mindfarkk » Fri 21 Jan 2005, 19:56:20

purrari... oh man she's a keeper!
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Re: things kids say

Unread postby Ercole » Sat 22 Jan 2005, 07:42:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'm')y daughter was home sick yesterday and spent the day on the couch. she was watching our 3 month old kitten, who, while purring up a storm, was racing around the house as cats will do. she turns to me and says "hey mom, we have a Purrari". (as in a purring ferrari)
I'm still giggling. :-D

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THE Kid Stuff Thread (merged)

Unread postby BabyPeanut » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 00:51:58

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 059/news01
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')any Americans expressed amusement when President Carter urged them in 1977 to put on a sweater instead of turning up the thermostat, but conservation has now become a cornerstone of energy policy.
"It's starting to look like he was ahead of his time, isn't it?" said Karen Reagor, executive director of the Kentucky affiliate of the National Energy Education Development Project, established by Carter in 1980. ...
Nearly 30 students at New Haven Elementary conducted an experiment Friday to demonstrate the impact insulation can have on heating and cooling buildings.
Groups of students wrapped small metal cans with their choice of insulation, filled them with hot water and measured the water's temperature every five minutes to determine how quickly heat escaped. ...
"I had one student's father, literally, who took the booklet to the store and bought (the recommended) type of insulation," Reagor said.
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Unread postby k_semler » Mon 31 Jan 2005, 12:59:31

http://www.energyhogs.com/

a "fun" online game thing that teaches children about common emergy inefficencies such as leaky windows, incandecent lightbulbs, etc. I heard about this site on the radio.
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Lessons in saving Energy at schools

Unread postby challenge » Mon 07 Feb 2005, 10:41:20

Dear babypeanut,
Congratulations with the initiative on your Elementary school! I think Mr. Carter was very right at the '80's to place Energy Efiiciency in this position. In the Netherlands, we have ever since the 1973 oilcrisis had a lot of educational programs on energy, but helas none of them have shown very long lasting initiatives.
Since a school in itself has to show it's peoples that energy is a serious matter. I think the schoolorganisation has to set the right example for their own bulding (and the (computer)content of course).
In the Netherlands I have just started a national program on monitoring of energy use of schoolbuildings for the boards of our schools. It is the aim to bring awareness to the boards of the schools in order to prepare for energysaving programs for the schools.
Since administrative organisations for schools are involved, boards will receive a yearly energy target and montly results of energy use, from each school. With an energy crisis coming in several year, it is clear that targets will be set higher each year! Within two years I expect all Dutch schools are partcipating in this national energy monitoring program, and the kids as well!
I write you this because I think it is important in an educational program that schools should set the example for their students,
Regards, Martien Pieters, the Netherlands
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Peak Oil goes out to 11 year olds!

Unread postby KevO » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 10:11:53

Check this, we get a mention and peak oil seems to be going to a new
age group

http://www.random230.moonfruit.com/

Do people think that this is the best age group for awareness?

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Unread postby Cyrus » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 11:31:45

Kick-ass!!!
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Unread postby Wildwell » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 11:37:41

Yep. Young people are more open to ideas, they are also huge fashion led consumers and will be first to get sent to war.

I know quite a few people in the 18-25 age group and they are all open to the possibilities. The most difficult group to deal with are the 45-65 year old age group – although by no means exclusively so. The latter group were brought up at the beginning of the oil age (which started around 1950). They were the few ordinary people to own cars, fly into exotic places and started the consumer boom on the basis of cheap oil and so changes in lifestyle of urban development like no other.

The over 65s are a much more frugal group who remember the times before much of the oil based modernity began and are generally more sympathetic to much more stable less consumer led times and the rise of oil.
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Unread postby delphi319 » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 12:54:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wildwell', 'I') know quite a few people in the 18-25 age group and they are all open to the possibilities. The most difficult group to deal with are the 45-65 year old age group – although by no means exclusively so. The latter group were brought up at the beginning of the oil age...


I'm not sure I agree with the assumption that the younger generation is perhaps more open to possibilities. I'm 27 and I've tried to mention peak oil and resource scarcity to many people in the 18-30 age group. All but 1 out of 50 have basically said I was nuts, that oil would be replaced with technology, that the world will keep growing indefinitely, etc. The Gen X and Y-ers have been spoiled by the computer age, thinking somehow that life evolves around computers, XBox, iPod, CD players, DVDs, 3D movies, video games, etc. It's no wonder why the health of the newer generations is so poor. They don't eat or exercise properly, and have this delusion that computers will solve everything.

I also agree that the baby-boomers are stubborn to this idea, seeing how they saw technology evolve the past 40-60 years, but I think they are also not quite as dependent on this notion that technology is the be-all, end-all solution to the world's problems.
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Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 04:34:15

When there are big changes, it's always the youngest who are most able to deal with them. Anyone remember the first days of the personal computer and how it was the kids, often quite young, who took to the things like ducks to water?

We older people are stuffed to the gills with old ideas, the young ones won't be held back by a lifetime of counting on "gas" for the "car" and the insane social-control ideas drilled into us by our Empire. And the ideas considered most taboo now are the ones the young ones grab onto the most.
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Unread postby rostov » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 05:46:53

I have to agree. Personally my circle of relatives whom I've talked to revealed one thing : ALL were in constant denial. The only one (except my wife) who accepted, and at a BLAZING speed, was my brother-in-law at the age of 18. The rest were at least 6 years above his age.

Within 1 night. Without much references and facts. Just by what he sees and hears around him. I've given up on the rest after all these 4 months.
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Unread postby KevO » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 07:05:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rostov', 'I') have to agree. Personally my circle of relatives whom I've talked to revealed one thing : ALL were in constant denial. The only one (except my wife) who accepted, and at a BLAZING speed, was my brother-in-law at the age of 18. The rest were at least 6 years above his age.

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he seems to have updated and added the Bush Oil thing from the net at the peak oil section
What a good way to get others of his age to understand

http://www.random230.moonfruit.com/
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