[Bas]

hangliding with a pair of sunglasses (hanging from the sunglass handles with two hands)

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', '[')b]Myself
* I dream in color
* I am aware I am dreaming
* I remember my dreams
* Walking, running and flying is no trouble, I don't use wings I prefer to levitate/fly.
* I control as much as I want, the place, the landscape, the physics and I can create animated people.
* I can have a matrix style burly brawl, let trolls chop me up and reassemble myself. There's nothing in my dreams that can harm me.
* I can read, though I've heard most people have difficulty with this while dreaming.
* With difficulty I can pull up music and video in floating jukebox windows.
* The most difficult is to create a computer simulation with a working program compiler or math simulator.
* My worst dream is if I try to simulate growing fractals. In general exponential equations are a pain, you just run out of brain space...

[Rasputin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', ' ')If so, please attempt to describe the actual method which allowed you to fly.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jeezlouise', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I')t seemed incredibly real. I even remember debating with myself in my sleep over whether it was real or a dream, and on those occasions when I concluded it was real, I was practically in heaven. When I woke up and realized it wasn't real, hell resumed.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 't')he etheric body enjoys this experience, in objective reality . . . before and after death.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 't')he etheric body enjoys this experience, in objective reality . . . before and after death.

[Carlhole]

I probably have 5 or 6 vivid flying dreams every year that I remember and I've had them all my life.
I always seem to swim through the air but I seem to have only partial control - as if I were swimming in a current.
Sometimes, I swim up through the air and cannot come down. I keep getting higher and higher. Sometimes I have hardly any control at all over my flight and swirl around in wide circular arcs as if I were trapped in some sort of vortex. No matter what the circumstances, I always seem to want to sustain the flight by struggling to swim higher and higher.

When my flying dreams begin, I invariably have the thought: Hmmm...swimming through the air. Why didn't I ever think of this before?". It's so easy and natural".
Sometimes, I'm flying over other people who cannot fly or I'm doing something for other people using my powers of flight. At these times, I have the feeling of being a rarely gifted person of some sort. HA!
Sometimes the flying dream ends when I crash into the ground. I usually wake up afterwards. Sometimes, my "powers" of flight seem to ebb as if I were a balloon that has lost too much helium. When I can no longer can even keep my feet up off the ground, I wake up.

I usually feel sad upon realization that my powers of flight were only a dream - and I usually have this thought immediately before waking up.
When I was younger, I used to have recurrent "Giant Wave" dreams also. They were your usual Daytona beach type wave with a razor sharp peak just before they crashed - except they were absolutely of monstrous size, about the same size as the waves of the hundred-year storm in the movie "Point Break".
The wave would crash over me with awesome force but, instead of submerging and drowing me, it would knock me flying up into the air with extreme velocity. And then I would again have the sensation of swimming through the air with limited control, watching the amazingly detailed scenes on the ground.

Strangely, I haven't had a giant wave dream for a very long time. I don't know why, but when I think of it, I somehow associate the giant wave with the promise of youth.

[Ferretlover]

Anybody ever had surgery, and dreamed that you were floating above your body, watching the doctors work on you?

[Judgie]

Yep, have to do the arm-flapping thing to get airborne. From that stage on i'm usually in full control and can glide where I want, all the while thinking about how easy it was to achieve flight.

Byron100:

Yep, I actually have those quite often, usually the events occur within a month or so of the dream, although theres one in particular that involves me losing my woman, and scares the absolute crap out of me. It's been nearly a year since I had that dream, and thankgod she's getting that new set of tyres on her car this week.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'A')nybody ever had surgery, and dreamed that you were floating above your body, watching the doctors work on you?

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 't')he etheric body enjoys this experience, in objective reality . . . before and after death.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I haven't had flying dreams since I was a kid. It was always dark out and I would walk up the driveway and get a running start down the street, it's late late at night, and as I ran I would flap my arms and fly like bird down the rural edge of suburbia streets. Thrilling dreams. But lately since I've experimented with entheogens I've developed an ability to slip in and out of sleep remembering all my dreams and basically watching them. I have to be sure not to think about them or try to shape them. I just watch them all go by, half awake. Amazing dreams.

[threadbear]

I was inclined to think the same thing, Heineken. Upon closer examination, I found that the neuronal demise theory failed to explain the experience. The Lancet published an article about it that was very interesting. Also, the Pam Reynolds story. Again, neuronal die off, doesn't explain it:

Pam Reynolds (stage name) from Atlanta, Georgia is an American singer-songwriter. In 1991, at the age of 35, she had a near-death experience (NDE) during a brain operation. Her NDE is one of the most notable and best documented in NDE research because of the unusual circumstances under which it happened. Reynolds was under close medical monitoring during the entire operation. During part of the operation she had no brain-wave activity and no blood flowing in her brain, which left her clinically dead. She made several observations about the procedure which later were confirmed by medical personnel as surprisingly accurate. link

I think the skeptical owe it to themselves (I'm not looking for converts) to look into this a little more deeply. I mean, why hold to the theory that consciousness ends with the death of the physical body, if it is (a) depressing and (b) not true.
As far as the comparison between swimming and flying go, it makes sense, because I'm sure, having had a cockatoo and love bird I used to free fly outside, this is exactly how they experience flight. We just see blue or grey sky and a little wind. Their light little bodies have to learn to work with it, rather than strain against it, much like learning to swim.

[PenultimateManStanding]

That sounds like something I would like to read up on tomorrow. but btw, the reason I don't try influence or think about my semi-sleep dreams is because that tends to engage my conscious thinking and I lose the dream states that keep morphing in unexpected ways.

[threadbear]

DMT can't be processed by a flat lining brain.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') was inclined to think the same thing, Heineken. Upon closer examination, I found that the neuronal demise theory failed to explain the experience. The Lancet published an article about it that was very interesting. Also, the Pam Reynolds story. Again, neuronal die off, doesn't explain it:

Pam Reynolds (stage name) from Atlanta, Georgia is an American singer-songwriter. In 1991, at the age of 35, she had a near-death experience (NDE) during a brain operation. Her NDE is one of the most notable and best documented in NDE research because of the unusual circumstances under which it happened. Reynolds was under close medical monitoring during the entire operation. During part of the operation she had no brain-wave activity and no blood flowing in her brain, which left her clinically dead. She made several observations about the procedure which later were confirmed by medical personnel as surprisingly accurate. link
I think the skeptical owe it to themselves (I'm not looking for converts) to look into this a little more deeply. I mean, why hold to the theory that consciousness ends with the death of the physical body, if it is (a) depressing and (b) not true.

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heinekin', ']')I don't believe consciousness survives death, threadbear. I wish it did. I could be wrong, and I respect your views. I believe that death is like the period before you were born---a time all of us can reflect on. Nothingness; no elements of awareness whatsoever. Our individual lives are just flashes of light in the black eternity.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'A')nybody ever had surgery, and dreamed that you were floating above your body, watching the doctors work on you?

[threadbear]

Steam Cannon, That doesn't explain most of NDE. For example, being clinically dead, and then reporting back exact details of surgery and conversation-- post mortem. Also, the ability to travel out of body and report objects seen on the hospital roof roof and then having it independantly verified.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'S')team Cannon, That doesn't explain most of NDE. For example, being clinically dead, and then reporting back exact details of surgery and conversation-- post mortem. Also, the ability to travel out of body and report objects seen on the hospital roof roof and then having it independantly verified.