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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Cabrone » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 09:17:52

Ludi

It would be nice to think that we could all power down and move into a sustainable pattern of living in a calm and orderly fashion but current evidence indicates that it simply won't happen I'm afraid.

If channelled correctly, and assuming it's not already too late, anger could really force the large scale change at the speed that is needed without destroying everything.

Something that is powerful enough to topple regimes is something that even the likes of Bush would have to bow down to. You just need to look at French, Russian and Chinese history to see what it is capable of.

'Anger is an energy' (John Lydon, PIL).
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Zac » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 11:19:46

When TS REALLY HTF the anger will be massive. However, it will not be used constructively, but instead will be channelled by TPTB into furtherance of their warped agenda, just like it always has been. Think Nazi Germany, with its panoply of scapegoats. Are you a dissenter, someone who will have food while others go hungry, Islamic, a member of some fringe group? Haliburton has a bunk for you in one of their gleaming, spacious new concentration camps. So long as TPTB control the mass media, any anger or hatred will be firmly under their control. Look at Rush Limbaugh. He has made a career out of deflecting people's justifiable anger away from its rightful targets and onto "liberals," "feminazis," "eco-terrorists" and "militant vegetarians."
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 11:59:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'R')emember that movie the matrix when the bullets just seem to stop in mid-air.

Imagine turds instead of bullets.

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Nah. Don't think so. There'll be no Neo to stop them once the turds start flying.

Agreed!

You both still believe in politics right?
How about the ability of one person to start a small group who become a movement who go on to overthrow a tyranical form of government?

If not it would seem all hope is lost thus there is no need to continue trying to inform anyone of anything and thus no need to continue posting...

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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 15:08:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cabrone', 'L')udi

It would be nice to think that we could all power down and move into a sustainable pattern of living in a calm and orderly fashion but current evidence indicates that it simply won't happen I'm afraid.

If channelled correctly, and assuming it's not already too late, anger could really force the large scale change at the speed that is needed without destroying everything.

Something that is powerful enough to topple regimes is something that even the likes of Bush would have to bow down to. You just need to look at French, Russian and Chinese history to see what it is capable of.

'Anger is an energy' (John Lydon, PIL).



So who here is focusing that anger, huh? Who?


:-x


Screw your "it would be nice." It's all just talk, just empty crap talk.


This conversation makes me extremely angry.


:-x
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 15:22:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'L')udi, please explain for me or be more specific: "Now What?" Are you asking what You should do next? Or, what You should feel now?



People seem to be lecturing me to be angry (like I need encouragement to be angry).


Now What do we DO?


This is all just TALK! All just lecturing, advising, condescension.


What ACTION do you all propose we take now if we are angry? Ok? NEOPO, where is the god damn revolution? Huh? Where is it?


Stop telling me it's important to be angry, stop explaining to me oh so patiently that anger is good, we should be angry, where's the revolution without anger!


I'm plenty angry, now what do you want to DO with it?


What do you want to DO?


Understand?
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby jpalme2000 » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 15:40:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'L')udi, please explain for me or be more specific: "Now What?" Are you asking what You should do next? Or, what You should feel now?

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I'm plenty angry, now what do you want to DO with it?
What do you want to DO?
Understand?


Ok, here is what you do.

1. Put 6 months of expenses outside of the banking system.
2. Put as much non perishable food aside as affordable
3. If you have firearms, purchase some ammunition
4. Fill your cars up with petrol
5. Update your disaster preparations
6. Get some munchies sit on your couch
7. Watch the horror unfold on TV until it goes offline
8. Pick up the pieces.
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 15:51:24

Don’t be angry Ludi, be strong. No matter what anyone else says.

Anger is like fear, a mind killer. Keep your wits about you.
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby EndOfGrowth » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 15:51:50

?[/quote]

Ok, here is what you do.

1. Put 6 months of expenses outside of the banking system.
2. Put as much non perishable food aside as affordable
3. If you have firearms, purchase some ammunition
4. Fill your cars up with petrol
5. Update your disaster preparations
6. Get some munchies sit on your couch
7. Watch the horror unfold on TV until it goes offline
8. Pick up the pieces.[/quote]

Why not have a nice cup of tea and a scone with a big dollop of clotted cream :razz:
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 15:51:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m plenty angry, now what do you want to DO with it?


Well now, that would be the $50,000 question wouldn't it?

Unfortunately, given that the status quo generally has prohibitions in place that thwart action toward meaningful (or maybe I should say, effective) change (i.e. laws), answering that question would likely violate this forum's COC...
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 16:24:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m plenty angry, now what do you want to DO with it?


Well now, that would be the $50,000 question wouldn't it?

Unfortunately, given that the status quo generally has prohibitions in place that thwart action toward meaningful (or maybe I should say, effective) change (i.e. laws), answering that question would likely violate this forum's COC...

Absolutely, we are not "allowed" to go there...
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby whereagles » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 16:32:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cabrone', 'I')t would be nice to think that we could all power down and move into a sustainable pattern of living in a calm and orderly fashion but current evidence indicates that it simply won't happen I'm afraid.


Agreed. People lived in those days from 10 000 BC to 1870 AC and it was no idilic lifestyle.
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 16:40:28

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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby mmasters » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 16:40:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zac', 'W')hen TS REALLY HTF the anger will be massive. However, it will not be used constructively, but instead will be channelled by TPTB into furtherance of their warped agenda, just like it always has been. Think Nazi Germany, with its panoply of scapegoats. Are you a dissenter, someone who will have food while others go hungry, Islamic, a member of some fringe group? Haliburton has a bunk for you in one of their gleaming, spacious new concentration camps. So long as TPTB control the mass media, any anger or hatred will be firmly under their control. Look at Rush Limbaugh. He has made a career out of deflecting people's justifiable anger away from its rightful targets and onto "liberals," "feminazis," "eco-terrorists" and "militant vegetarians."

Yup, laying low will be very important. There will be little anger directed where it should be because of all the media/ educational dumbing down and brainwashing.
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby roccman » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 16:54:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'L')udi, please explain for me or be more specific: "Now What?" Are you asking what You should do next? Or, what You should feel now?



People seem to be lecturing me to be angry (like I need encouragement to be angry).


Now What do we DO?


This is all just TALK! All just lecturing, advising, condescension.


What ACTION do you all propose we take now if we are angry? Ok? NEOPO, where is the god damn revolution? Huh? Where is it?


Stop telling me it's important to be angry, stop explaining to me oh so patiently that anger is good, we should be angry, where's the revolution without anger!


I'm plenty angry, now what do you want to DO with it?


What do you want to DO?


Understand?


Well Ludi - you could go down a road...pick up a tire shred and make tire sandles with some of that anger...like I did this morning.

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Now - If you don't mind I will take out more of my anger on the right sandle.

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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 16:58:00

I went out and put up some fencing.

It helped a little.

:x
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Heineken » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 16:59:00

It would be better if people got angry now, while there may still be a little time to channel those emotions to head off the worst disasters, than later on, in food riots.
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 17:03:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I')t would be better if people got angry now, while there may still be a little time to channel those emotions to head off the worst disasters, than later on, in food riots.



What should they DO to head off the worst disasters?
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 17:07:18

All of us here are mentally prepared and have done a lot of preps, practically speaking. We are profoundly lucky, in that regard. People will not immediately start rioting in the streets. Many neighbourhood vigilante protection groups will immediately form , at the onset of crisis. Strangely, you may find your neighbourhood becomes more rather than less safe.

You know, so many people regard this kind of disruption in purely negative terms. Other people's raison d'etre is to create meaning in their lives through horrible circumstances. I think the doomers will be surprised at all the heroism this calls forth. Every little boy will have a chance to be superman. Every man will have a realistic shot at being the knight in shining armour. Don't despair. It's bitter tasting medicine, but we'll probably, and most strangely, be better off.
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Heineken » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 17:12:51

Throw out the Bilderbergs and replace them with greenies. Burn cars and car notes and car factories. Bring back the railroads. Sterilize half the women and half the men. Tear up the malls and fried-food shacks and replace them with permaculture plots and forests.

Just a few starters, Ludi.
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Re: has the S*** finally hit?

Unread postby Ludi » Sun 09 Sep 2007, 17:16:23

Thanks Heineken!

See, NEOPO, that wasn't so hard to talk about.


:)
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