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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 18:43:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'M')y eldest daughter gave me something wonderful that she bought for me in Amsterdam. A copy of a painting by Vincent Van Gogh of cherry blossoms. It is a truly beautiful painting done by a man who was truly miserable. Vincent was a prophet.

Vincents Van Gogh's great grandnephew Theo was stabbed to death by a Muslim terrorist in 2004. The Religion of Peace strikes again.


Long Nick, how many muslims have you known personally? Did you live in muslim country? Muslim neigbourhood?

What do those questions have to do with the fact that Muslims have committed over 9000 deadly terrorist attacks since 9/11?

Long Nick?

I have known many so-called "Muslims" personally though none of them believe in the Quran or follow its words so they are about as Muslim as I am.

My roommate is a Sufi Muslim. He also doesn't believe in the Quran or follow it's teachings.

The United States is practically a Muslim country.

And yes I live in a Muslim neighborhood in New York City across the street from a mosque Madina Masjid. I don't fear them because I know they are hypocrites who don't actually believe in the Quran. If they did believe in the Quran and follow it's words there would be problems, i.e. terrorist attacks. The Quran commands real Muslims to commit terrorist acts.

What about you? How many Muslims have you known personally? Do you live in a Muslim country? Muslim neighborhood?
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 23:15:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '
')The United States is practically a Muslim country.
You are joking, right? America is Jewish.
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 00:07:25

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Vincents Van Gogh's great grandnephew Theo was stabbed to death by a Muslim terrorist in 2004. The Religion of Peace strikes again.[/quote]

Theo Van Gogh was also an gifted artist, although he was a film-maker. :cry:
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 02:01:20

I can't express how grand he is.

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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 02:57:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '
')What about you? How many Muslims have you known personally? Do you live in a Muslim country? Muslim neighborhood?


I've known probably 60-70 muslims from Marocco to Indonesia, 15-20 nationalities at least, many of them were from Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, Siria, Palestina, Jordan and Egypt. Most were ok or good or very good people . The only completely fucke* up Arab I've met was christian from Egypt, whose family were christians for centuries and who hated muslims more than you do. The only muslims I have problem with are Turks and its completely not related to their religion.
I am not saying that I would welcome them to my , or any other white country; however I cant recognise that they are nothing more now than scapegoats.
I wonder why dont you ask yourself, why out of those 9000 terrorist attacks since 9/11 none happened in USA; why none of its embassies, ships or military bases were attacked anywhere in the world , outside of war zomes, of course; whats wrong with 8 million American Muslims? With 1 billion muslims worldwide? What, is it too hard to drive an SUV into some garbage cans at 25 miles an hour, put some gasoline on your own dress, fire it and run around screaming "Allah Akbar !"?
But the main question you should ask yourself, is why there are was no anti-islamic hysteria anywhere in US media before creation of Itsreal.
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 03:22:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'T')he only muslims I have problem with are Turks and its completely not related to their religion.

So you don't have a problem with Al Qaeda, Hamas, or Hizballah?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am not saying that I would welcome them to my , or any other white country; however I cant recognise that they are nothing more now than scapegoats.

Scapegoats for whom? The Lestists that enable them?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') wonder why dont you ask yourself, why out of those 9000 terrorist attacks since 9/11 none happened in USA

I guess Muslims hate the rest of the world more than they do America.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hy none of its embassies, ships or military bases were attacked anywhere in the world , outside of war zomes, of course;

Because the United States was awoken out of it's slumber on 9/11. Al Qaeda knows if they do it again that will mean more Muslim countries invaded by the United States. 9/11 was a blunder on Al Qaeda's part. It led to the US occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hats wrong with 8 million American Muslims? With 1 billion muslims worldwide? What, is it too hard to drive an SUV into some garbage cans at 25 miles an hour, put some gasoline on your own dress, fire it and run around screaming "Allah Akbar !"?
They don't really follow the Quran. http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Qu ... rism.Islam

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut the main question you should ask yourself, is why there are was no anti-islamic hysteria anywhere in US media before creation of Itsreal.
LOL. Wow. You say that because you have been totally brainwashed by Commie-Nazi propaganda.

The current state of Israel was created in 1948.

The last time I checked the United States first went to war with Muslims in 1801, over a hundred years before the creation of Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.

John Quincy Adams had this to say:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={F3F5C99B-338A-4BC1-A4B2-585EFE643619}

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')…he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…

and this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force. Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When our gallant [Stephen] Decatur ref had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States, he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators, unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded. The arrival of Chauncey, with a squadron before Algiers, silenced the fraudulent claim of the Dey, and he signed a new treaty in which it was abandoned; but he disdained to conceal his intentions; my power, said he, has been wrested from my hands; draw ye the treaty at your pleasure, and I will sign it; but beware of the moment, when I shall recover my power, for with that moment, your treaty shall be waste paper. He avowed what they always practised, and would without scruple have practised himself. Such is the spirit, which governs the hearts of men, to whom treachery and violence are taught as principles of religion.”
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby gw » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 04:10:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'd')amn, I'm telling you, ask yourself, how can a man present himself so unloving and angry but yet paint all those lovely swirls and those marvelous color contrasts? Vincent Van Gogh is an international treasure and he was sick as a dog. Go figure.


If I may, I would like to interpret your intention in posting these paintings by Van Gogh (which by the way are wonderful and much appreciated), as a way of saying that some people with mental illnesses have managed to put their abilities to good use and leave us with great gifts. To be polite, let me refer to manifestations of mental illnesses as "eccentricities" or "special abilities." Nicola Tesla was a highly eccentric person, but he was able to direct his special abilities to enable him to see things that others did not. And as a result, he left us with great gifts like alternating current, wireless communication and a host of other similar enabling technologies.

One issue is that "special abilities" are perceived in our society as a disorder that should be corrected through the administration of drugs, shock therapy or other harsh means. But there are cultures where people with special abilities are revered and respected for their gifts. Instead of treating these eccentricities as a problem, they are channeled in ways that produce beneficial results.

An example comes to mind where Andrew Grove, former Intel chairman said "only the paranoid survive." So maybe somebody with the gift of "paranoia" could be assigned to handle matters of competitive analysis, business strategy or possibly quality assurance testing.

To a certain extent, recruitment for job skills involving special abilities is already present in our society. For some reason, people with social disorders seem to be selected for positions in accounts payable or purchasing. I have also noticed that people with something resembling turrets syndrome are often channeled into management or supervisory positions.

I can think of dozens of valuable uses for people gifted with abilities in obsessive-compulsive disorders, delusional thinking or manic depression.

Mental illness is a problem because we perceive it as a problem instead of perceiving it as a special gift that could be developed with proper education into something positive and beneficial.
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby Pretorian » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 05:07:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut the main question you should ask yourself, is why there are was no anti-islamic hysteria anywhere in US media before creation of Itsreal.

LOL. Wow. You say that because you have been totally brainwashed by Commie-Nazi propaganda.

The current state of Israel was created in 1948.

The last time I checked the United States first went to war with Muslims in 1801, over a hundred years before the creation of Israel.



I did not ask you when USA started to kill its first muslims or when Itsreal was created. I asked you specifically, where was anti-muslim hysteria in US media before jews started to settle in
british Palestina?
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 05:56:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I') did not ask you when USA started to kill its first muslims or when Itsreal was created. I asked you specifically, where was anti-muslim hysteria in US media before jews started to settle in british Palestina?

I refer you to my comments posted above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.


John Quincy Adams had this to say:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={F3F5C99B-338A-4BC1-A4B2-585EFE643619}

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')…he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…


and this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force. Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When our gallant [Stephen] Decatur ref had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States, he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators, unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded. The arrival of Chauncey, with a squadron before Algiers, silenced the fraudulent claim of the Dey, and he signed a new treaty in which it was abandoned; but he disdained to conceal his intentions; my power, said he, has been wrested from my hands; draw ye the treaty at your pleasure, and I will sign it; but beware of the moment, when I shall recover my power, for with that moment, your treaty shall be waste paper. He avowed what they always practised, and would without scruple have practised himself. Such is the spirit, which governs the hearts of men, to whom treachery and violence are taught as principles of religion.”
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 07:26:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '
')The United States is practically a Muslim country.
You are joking, right? America is Jewish.

Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Al Saud controls all of the American media (Fox News through News Corp and CNN and Newsweek through Time Warner) and controls all of your thoughts.

http://www.aim.org/press_release/4222_0_19_0_C

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')audi Billionaire Boasts of Manipulating Fox News Coverage
December 7, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Accuracy in Media (AIM) is urging a full inquiry into a report that a Saudi billionaire caused the Fox News Channel (FNC) to dramatically alter its coverage of the Muslim riots in France after he called the network to complain. The Saudi billionaire, Al-waleed bin Talal, is a friend of News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch and controls an influential number of voting shares in the company.


http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/ ... /index.htm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')LWALEED: THE PRINCE OF ALL MEDIA ...

First of all, I own about $1 billion of Time Warner


He also controls America's money supply through his ownership of Citigroup and monitors all of America's conversations through his control of Motorola.
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 08:25:04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5-kMXwkmPk
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby NotMyBlood » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 13:31:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hats wrong with 8 million American Muslims? With 1 billion muslims worldwide? What, is it too hard to drive an SUV into some garbage cans at 25 miles an hour, put some gasoline on your own dress, fire it and run around screaming "Allah Akbar !"?


My guess is they see how much better the American Way of life is not only in lifestyle but in ideas/laws/government and ideology. Why in the world would you want to move from this country back to place that still condones "killing your own daughter/sister/neice" for "embarrasing" the family. I mean, is this for real? Are they that backward????????. Yes, Yes they are!!! Now, we could argue that the US has contributed and even enabled that situation by propping up and supporting corrupt governments. Thats a whole discussion...............

I see 9/11, in really simple terms, like this. The poor kids were tired of being poor and tired of watching the rich kids come into their neighborhood, take their women, sell and trade, and then go back to "richland". One of the poor kids snuck into "richland" and tossed a grenade over the wall, then took off running!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby Blacksmith » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 13:48:38

One of my friends live and worked for several years in Lybia. While working there he had an associate who was Lybian working with him. This Lybian was about 40 and had married his first cousin when she was 16 to avoid paying a bride price. Each vacation he would go to Malta to party and send his wife and children back to her village to live with her parents.
His wife in her life would only see her husband, her father and her brothers.

AND WE CALL THESE PEOPLE BACKWARD
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Unread postby jboogy » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 13:49:24

That was a nice song PMS,I had never heard it before.
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 14:19:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'T')hat was a nice song PMS,I had never heard it before.
Yeah, it's a beautiful song for a beautiful man. It should be understood, though, that mental illness is nothing but pain. Health is what we want. But God bless Vincent for what he did. It was nothing short of astonishing. Image
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby holmes » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 14:28:58

Thank you Oilmastery for logic and exposing anti-semetic scumbags for who they truly are. Lying scumbags. EXPOSE these treasonous spoiled rotten narcissists. They are so deeply imbedded amongst us. leftists are chimpanzees. The funny part is they rant against Bush who is the biggest neoliberal in the history of the USA. scary for sure. Lunatics for sure. the twisteing of history to their liking is taken after the best repressors and dictators in history yet they scream they are salvation. Just more of the same power mad propaganda. yawn. Nothing new. No new paradigm. Just more of the same history.
Now that said lets just say we all have blood on our hands at this point in history.
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Re: America and Americans suffer from delusions of granduer

Unread postby jboogy » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 14:29:04

Impressionists either knock my socks off or I don't get it at all,no in-between,Van gogh is a perfect example,his paintings are either awe-inspiring 8O or Blecchhhh! [smilie=5badair.gif]
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 14:46:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'I')mpressionists either knock my socks off or I don't get it at all,no in-between,Van gogh is a perfect example,his paintings are either awe-inspiring 8O or Blecchhhh! [smilie=5badair.gif]
Vincent was a crazy fool. But he's probably the most beloved artist there is. This guy is a close second. btw, Vincent wasn't an impressionist. They call him an Expressionist, but he was one of a kind. Very unique.

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Unread postby jboogy » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 15:40:39

I couldn't find it but I'm guessing Monet?Found a boatload of water-lillies by him .some looked close to this work.What about Renior?How can he not be in top 2?
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 16:26:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'W')hat about Renior?How can he not be in top 2?
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