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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby PrairieMule » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 13:59:32

I have never tried ebay but I'm nuts about craigslist. In the last two weeks I have added $400 to the "Prairiemule Cattle Fund" from junk in my closet and garage.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby Eli » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 15:10:00

Were they local buyers or did you ship your stuff to them?
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby PrairieMule » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 17:01:40

All deals done locally in Dallas.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby oowolf » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 17:46:53

ebay is the best thing that ever happened in my life. I've made more money, easier, on ebay than anywhere else. It sure as hell beats working in a goddam sawmill (as I did for many years). The peak years for ebay (to me) were around 2002-03. My specialty was antique glass and pottery, but I would try anything. I once sold an old highway sign that I picked up off the ground at the local dump for $1354!!!--I had 3 bids over $1500. Books were especially good. I bought a 1911 Book of Mormon for 20 cents and got close to $200. I bought an old plate by the famous potter Polia Pillin for $2 and got $3787--that was my best sale. And never paid a cent of tax.

ebay really started down right after the hurricanes of 2005. I saw it immediately. The market for $4000 plates dried right up. I always thought a Dow Jones-like index could have been made of various commodities sold on ebay-that would give a measure of the economy. Also ebay eventually hit the brick wall of market saturation. There really is a finite amount of people who want $500 Griswold skillets--I just searched--there's currently 225 Griswold skillets on sale-and completed items shows a 90% sale rate--but nowhere near the ridiculous prices they were going for in 2000-02.

I started out selling empty beer bottles. I could buy a sixpac of local beer like "Moose Drool" for $5 and sell the empty bottles for $3. I quickly gave up on $3 sales, though. My goal was to get a minimum of $100 profit per sale and I GOT VERY GOOD AT IT. I would usually make a $1000 profit at nearly every estate sale I attended.

ebay is still a great place to get homestead items like scythes and honey extractors and scarce technical books like college textbooks that can cost 200 or 300$ new.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 18:58:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', '
')The thing I don't like about CL is the apparent necessity of inviting strangers to your home to do transactions. Strikes me as a possible feeding-source for home invasion robbers and similar scum. OTOH in places that aren't so thick with predators, it probably works out fine.


I often meet Craigslist people at a local landmark like a Starbucks. Ebay creeps too. Starbucks is as evil as any institution, but they are easy to find, and still don't smell as bad as a mcDonald's, which no one goes to any more.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 19:02:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'e')bay is the best thing that ever happened in my life. I've made more money, easier, on ebay than anywhere else. It sure as hell beats working in a goddam sawmill (as I did for many years). The peak years for ebay (to me) were around 2002-03. My specialty was antique glass and pottery, but I would try anything. I once sold an old highway sign that I picked up off the ground at the local dump for $1354!!!--I had 3 bids over $1500. Books were especially good. I bought a 1911 Book of Mormon for 20 cents and got close to $200. I bought an old plate by the famous potter Polia Pillin for $2 and got $3787--that was my best sale. And never paid a cent of tax.


Yep just like meth addiction, it feels so good for the first few years- Wow, I"m getting so much done! I'm losing weight and look better! And so on.

I notice you sound like you're not selling on Ebay any more. Yes the summer of 2005 was about its peak, it's been downhill from then and much more steeply downhill lately.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 21:27:08

I sell quality items every now and again. Some markets are still pretty good (ain't saying). As a hobby Ebay is still a good place to sell some stuff, but I don't like listing any item that I can't make at least $50 on.

One important thing is you need to know the product your selling really well, have excellent feedback & not over charge shipping costs.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 10:39:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'T')here really is a finite amount of people who want $500 Griswold skillets--I just searched--...90% sale rate--but nowhere near the ridiculous prices they were going for in 2000-02.


That's what I'm talking about.

I have a weird fetish for old kerosene lanterns. I just love the damn things the way some people love China dolls or rare coins. I enjoy looking at them on Ebay, but I never buy them because the prices are so ridiculous.

Lately I've noticed they are not selling for anything near the stupid prices they were in previous years. Many are going unsold at prices that would have been relative bargains in years past.

That's what I mean about Ebay as an economic indicator. I'm not seeing as may people paying crazy stupid prices for stuff like tents and motorcycles. I am seeing more overpriced items go unsold.

oowolf, I've had a couple of great scores like your old road sign. I can see how that would become addictive such that a person could expend huge amounts of energy chasing that next score!
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 12:15:16

You do not want to buy anything made of glass on Ebay, ever.

You can take vacations, drive around, find those same lanterns and no shipping or scams, ID theft, viruses, etc all the wonderful cornucopia of Evilbay/Thiefbay.....
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 14:21:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'T')hat's what I'm talking about.


Yeah. The whole collector part of EBay is totally outside my experience. I buy a lot of utilitarian stuff off ebay, and have done pretty well. Medical equipment, power tools, reloading supplies, canning supplies, radios, etc. I just got a 45 day supply of Mountain House freeze dried food off EBay for $200. Where else can you buy a gas mask for $20? Any self respecting Army Surplus store is going to charge you at least $100. Last winter I got a new-in-box copy of Peachtree Accounting 2006 for $25. Granted it was a year out of date, but still very good software and it would have cost me $250+ at Best Buy.

The keys to EBay, IMHO: 1. Absolutely critical - know what you're buying and what it's worth. If you know more about the item's than the seller does, that's ideal. With software, you have to be uber careful about whether it was previously registered. 2. Be careful who you buy from. People are going to all sorts of shenanigans these days to falsify their feedback. 3. Always pay with a credit card. That way you have recourse against being scammed. 4: Look for ugly ducklings. I've gotten several items at screaming good prices because they were broken, and I was able to fix them in less than 15 minutes. Old, out of date, unhip things are always a good buy. Stay away from really popular things. You're not going to get a good deal on an IPhone on EBay because there's too many people bidding. 2 year old cell phones, OTOH, aren't very popular and can be had for $25 any day. 5: Laptop batteries die and are expensive to replace. If you get an old laptop off ebay, don't expect the battery to work.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 18:18:18

I picked up a nice set of old "time" racing bicycle pedals shipped to my door for $15. They where state of art in the 80's. Still great pedals, but they ain't "hip" no more.

Glass is ok to ship. Insurance is required and the item must be packaged correctly.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 18:21:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have a weird fetish for old kerosene lanterns. I just love the damn things the way some people love China dolls or rare coins. I enjoy looking at them on Ebay, but I never buy them because the prices are so ridiculous.


Hey, you blew my cover. Aladdin Lamps are Hot, Hot Hot!

I love lighting up them ol lamps during the winter Months, got one singe wick lamp from 1861. Those B&H center draft lamps are kind of cool too.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby oowolf » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 18:50:22

What's really rare are the mid-19th century "vapor lamps" that (attempted to) use GASOLINE as fuel. Unfortunate tendency to blow up. Reference: Guide to Sandwich Glass by Barlow and Kaiser.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby oowolf » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 18:58:57

gasoline vapor lamps illustrated:
http://members.aol.com/lumiara/en/miscen.htm
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 19:14:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'W')hat's really rare are the mid-19th century "vapor lamps" that (attempted to) use GASOLINE as fuel. Unfortunate tendency to blow up.

Uhh...if you want to light your house with gasoline, why not just use an ordinary coleman white gas lantern?
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 19:33:41

Burning fluid - nasty stuff!
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 10 Jul 2007, 19:39:18

Hey! Burning stuff is all that separates us from the animals.

man=pyromaniac ape.
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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby Chuckmak » Wed 11 Jul 2007, 11:40:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'H')ey! Burning stuff is all that separates us from the animals.

man=pyromaniac ape.


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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Wed 11 Jul 2007, 12:49:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') buy a lot of utilitarian stuff off ebay, and have done pretty well. Medical equipment, power tools, reloading supplies, canning supplies, radios, etc. I just got a 45 day supply of Mountain House freeze dried food off EBay for $200. Where else can you buy a gas mask for $20? Last winter I got a new-in-box copy of Peachtree Accounting 2006 for $25.


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Re: Ebay as an Economic Indicator

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 11 Jul 2007, 17:38:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'W')ill you marry me? I'll do all the cooking, and massage your feet after a day at the office, and clean your rifles. :-)


Come on Tommy. Don't mess with my emotions like that if you don't mean it. [smilie=love1.gif]
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