[eastbay]

chris-h,

It's excellent that you're thinking about this coming situation. For individuals all we can do is learn and prepare the best we can. It looks like you're learning and that places you well and far ahead of the pack.

Keep up the great work. Ignore the ones who ridicule your efforts. You're on the road and whether you're far along that road or starting is unimportant at this point. Just make regular progress.

Stay on the road to making it through this disaster. Constantly refine your personal lists and thinking along the lines of scope and depth. Always take a step toward pulling yourself through this. Each day take another, and then another. You've been here awhile and know what I mean. Study them for academic value, but don't sweat the larger issues for we have very little control over the direction they make take and when to expect things to turn sour.

But we can control many personal things. Save money, keep fit, learn to grow food, learn basic skills, and learn to shoot, if you haven't already. That's just for starters. Ignore the unkind pundits. You will encounter many, even here. Read and learn. Practice what you can and strive to do better and you should do better than most.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'I')f the last 7 years have taught me anything it's that people will put up with all kinds of aggravation. If gas goes up far enough in price some will start looking to carpools.

[MrBill]

Great chart, Cube, thanks! My colleagues in LA laughed at me when I attempted doing technical analysis on 'economic indicators', but I see this chart does exactly that? ; - )

A car is not just a car. It can be basic transportation, in which case the Cubans are still driving American automobiles from the 1950s. They are even passed down through the family in their wills.

But it can also be a fashion accessory. Planned obsolescence to keep automakers in business.

Personally, I do not see any long-term benefit to society from putting more and more automobiles continuously on new roads built to accomodate them.

But China hopes to put more cars on the road in the next decade, so worldwide automobile production numbers are not falling.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') The Middle Kingdom’s middle class

A social revolution will soon transform China, and multinationals that do business there can’t afford to ignore it. So far, they have mostly focused on the country’s tiny minority of urban-affluent consumers. But as more Chinese migrate to the cities for higher-paying work, they are steadily climbing the income ladder. By 2011, McKinsey research suggests, China should have a lower middle class of 290 million people; by 2025, the upper middle class will be 520 million strong, with staggering disposable wealth. For many multinationals, this is the market of the future.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'G')reat chart, Cube, thanks! My colleagues in LA laughed at me when I attempted doing technical analysis on 'economic indicators', but I see this chart does exactly that? ; - )

[KingM]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SILENTTODD', 'L')imiting yourself and your partner to one baby each is the start of all solutions (get "fixed" after that one).

[128shot]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('chris-h', ' ')What do you think ?

[128shot]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I') think you haven't even begun to think this through.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'G')reat chart, Cube, thanks! My colleagues in LA laughed at me when I attempted doing technical analysis on 'economic indicators', but I see this chart does exactly that? ; - )

[SILENTTODD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SILENTTODD', 'L')imiting yourself and your partner to one baby each is the start of all solutions (get "fixed" after that one).

[KingM]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SILENTTODD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KingM', '
')In the meanwhile, you're just increasing the ratio of dumb, irresponsible people to the educated planners.

[xrotaryguy]

Chris-h, you're over simplifying of course, but I think you're right. There are soooooo many ways to maintain a comfortable living in a post peak world. Your suggestions are only a few, but it illustrates just how easy some of the solutions are.

[Scactha]

I talked to a collegue at work recently. We work at a logistics company (not much work for historians ). I mentioned that our business maybe don´t have such a rosy future. In the end he retreated into the silver bullit defense of electric cars fueled by fusion energy reactors. He just refused to contemplate the notion that business as usual wouldn´t continue to the point of losing his temper.

In short, people indeed are self delusional.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Scactha', 'I') talked to a collegue at work recently. We work at a logistics company (not much work for historians ). I mentioned that our business maybe don´t have such a rosy future. In the end he retreated into the silver bullit defense of electric cars fueled by fusion energy reactors. He just refused to contemplate the notion that business as usual wouldn´t continue to the point of losing his temper.

In short, people indeed are self delusional.

[Scactha]

Right you are Mr Bill. I find it increasingly curious that the management is clueless about the future of energy. I have managed to realise this somewhat for them I belive and that e.g. real eastate or land in general would be a good investment alternative.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Scactha', 'R')ight you are Mr Bill. I find it increasingly curious that the management is clueless about the future of energy. I have managed to realise this somewhat for them I belive and that e.g. real eastate or land in general would be a good investment alternative.

[LateGreatPlanetEarth]

good to have much debt when peak hits, since the debt will be forgiven since the dollar will be valueless.

[LateGreatPlanetEarth]

not so fast.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-t ... _ref=green