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Unread postby Aaron » Fri 01 Oct 2004, 21:02:58

Did ya know you can surf this website on handheld mobile devices like cell phones?

Anybody try this? Comments?
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Unread postby sidoze » Fri 01 Oct 2004, 23:37:40

I have verizon internet anywhere on my laptop.

Go to the park and read peak oil forums :D
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Unread postby frankthetank » Sat 02 Oct 2004, 00:47:22

I've read about Verizon and there high speed wireless internet. I would have it, but right now its only in large markets like Las Vegas.

I do use a PDA (palm pilot clone) with built in Wi-Fi and can easily connect to networks pretty much anywhere I roam(little iffy about the legality of doing this). Its annoying sometimes, but if all your doing is checking mail and PO, its all you need. Heres the one I have.

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/product ... l=en&s=dhs

I've seen these on sale a lot.
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Crude Oil, and other commodity prices on your mobile phone

Unread postby mrobert » Thu 10 Aug 2006, 06:19:58

Hello everyone,

We would like to introduce our new application, Mobile Commodity Price Quotes:
http://www.exosyphen.com/page_commodities.html

It's available for free, and it's written in Java.
If you install the application and it works on your phone, we would appreciate if you could let us now, so we can add the phone model to the tested phones list. It should work on any Java phone.

I hope you will find it usefull.

Thank you.
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Re: Crude Oil, and other commodity prices on your mobile pho

Unread postby rockdoc123 » Thu 10 Aug 2006, 10:50:52

Right....free until a few months down the road when you have to pay $9.95/yr for a lame ass java product when most folks who want to look at this info can get it free by having their mobile browser go to bloomberg.

You might next try selling snowcones to the Inuit.

I thought there was a policy against blatant advertising??
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Re: Crude Oil, and other commodity prices on your mobile pho

Unread postby mrobert » Thu 10 Aug 2006, 11:01:04

@rockdoc123 :
Yes, they can go to bloomberg. How much time does it take until you load the bloomberg site on your mobile? And also consider the higher data costs involved in that. Larger chunk of data => more waiting time, higher data costs.

There was a good reason I developed that :)
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Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist 6/07

Unread postby Carlhole » Sun 24 Jun 2007, 22:41:08

Mobile phones may soon be used on planes

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('New Scientist Jun '07', 'O')ne of the last telephone-free environments on the planet, the airplane, is about to be connected, allowing travellers to make mobile phone calls at high altitude.

Requests to switch off cellphones and fasten seatbelts are a familiar part of the take-off routine for airline passengers, but a European company has found a way to make dialling safe and link up people from above the clouds.

"Cabin connectivity is here," chief commercial officer of OnAir, Graham Lake, said at the Paris Air Show this week. His company, a joint venture between European plane maker Airbus and airline IT group Sita, received a green light from the European Aviation Safety Agency on Monday to begin fitting equipment to commercial jets.

Approval from a handful of national telecommunication regulators are the final hurdles, Lake says: "What we are confident of now is that we'll have pan-European approval to operate before the end of 2007."

The technology is to be operated by an Air France plane for the first time in September 2007 and will then roll out across the world, with low-cost operators Ireland-based Ryanair and Malaysia's AirAsia some of the biggest clients.

"It's the first time anywhere in the world that a system has been authorised and confirmed for the safe operation of phones and BlackBerry-type devices on aircraft," Lake said.

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The expansion timetable means European consumers will be the first to be able to use the technology...


Hmmm... I never thought such a thing would ever be possible. What will they think of next?
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby LightCodes » Sun 24 Jun 2007, 22:44:49

Well apparently on Flight 93 on 9/11 they used mobiles phone to call their family, or was it another official lie?


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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby patrick_b » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 15:25:02

The cell phone on flight 93 could only have happened if the plane was on the ground or if the passengers did not take the plane. We still don't know what happened to flight 93. There was even a report that the plane landed in Cleveland to be searched for a bomb. Also the crash site doesn't seem to show airplane debris but rather a hole created by an explosion.

It's possible to use the cell phone in planes using a newly developped technology that consists of embedding a cell phone emitter inside the plane and linking it using another transmission mean, like a radio transmission either to station on the ground or a satellite...

This technology has been tested for the first time in the year 2004 and didn't exist in 2001...
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby eXpat » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 15:33:36

I hope you all are not implying that the government would lie to you! I mean, they are honest elected representatives of the people! :P
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 15:34:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patrick_b', 'T')he cell phone on flight 93 could only have happened if the plane was on the ground or if the passengers did not take the plane....


Don't be silly....of course cell phones work inside planes. Take a plane flight some time and when the stewardesses tell you its OK try out your phone... you'll find that your phone works great when you are still inside the plane.

Also, you don't have to be on the ground to use a cell phone. There is nothing magical about being on the ground....the key thing is whether or not you are in range of a cell tower.

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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby NoLogos » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 20:58:07

Radio waves don't go thru metal. A perforated aluminum tube will allow some radio waves out, but with much attenuation. Certainly no cell phones could have been in contact with the ground from 30,000 ft as the corrupt gov't corporate whores once reported shortly after Sept 11, 2001. Most of us have noticed that the current admin has a pretty lousy track record re: the truth--much like a couple posters here. Corporate whores are everywhere.... :roll:
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 21:14:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patrick_b', 'T')he cell phone on flight 93 could only have happened if the plane was on the ground or if the passengers did not take the plane....


Don't be silly....of course cell phones work inside planes. Take a plane flight some time and when the stewardesses tell you its OK try out your phone... you'll find that your phone works great when you are still inside the plane.

Also, you don't have to be on the ground to use a cell phone. There is nothing magical about being on the ground....the key thing is whether or not you are in range of a cell tower.

CHEERS! 8)


Well then, why is this new technology... new technology?

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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 22:15:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoLogos', ' ')Certainly no cell phones could have been in contact with the ground from 30,000 ft as the corrupt gov't corporate whores once reported shortly after Sept 11, 2001.


The hijacked planes didn't fly at 30,000 feet. That is disinformation spread by conspiracy advocates. In actuality, the hijackers flew the hijacked jets at lower elevations to try to avoid radar.

Also, some of the calls from the jets were made on the "Airphones" built into the jets specificially to allow air-ground calls. If you've ever been on an airplane, then you may have seen the phones built into seat-backs on the jets. Those are the Airphones, and they work great for air-ground calls even from 30,000 feet. 8)
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 23:03:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he hijacked planes didn't fly at 30,000 feet. That is disinformation spread by conspiracy advocates. In actuality, the hijackers flew the hijacked jets at lower elevations to try to avoid radar.


That's bullshit. Where did you get that?

According to the 911 Commission Report, the plane was between 34,300 and 40,700 feet when most of the calls were made. [911 Commission Report 11,29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'A')lso, some of the calls from the jets were made on the "Airphones" built into the jets specificially to allow air-ground calls. If you've ever been on an airplane, then you may have seen the phones built into seat-backs on the jets. Those are the Airphones, and they work great for air-ground calls even from 30,000 feet. 8)


Some of the calls were from airphones, others were from cell phones.

The offical story contended that 9 cell phone calls were from flight 93. However, mathematician A.K. Dewdney, began showing the great improbability of cell phone calls being made above about 1,500 feet, if at all. And even in that very rare case when a connection was made, the call would fall off after a second or two because of the great speed of the aircraft and the inability of the cell phone towers to complete the "electronic handshake" process from one cell tower to the next.

If the improbability of even one cell phone call being made was extremely high, the improbability of 9 cell calls being completed is astronomical.

A.K. Dewdney's study is located here:
http://www.physics911.net/projectachilles

And since we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Flight 93 flew at high altitude when cell calls were made, you still haven't explained why new technology is necessary for people to do so now.
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 23:46:42

The conspiracy people can't deny that calls were made on air-to-ground Airphones from the planes hijacked on 9/11 planes. They want to lie and claim such calls were impossible, but next time you fly on a jet, just pull out your credit card and make a call on the Airphone. It works like a charm.

The cell phone issue is also a fake one drummed up by the conspiracy advocates. They advance the red herring that such calls are "impossible" from 30,000 feet, but back in the real world the hijackers flew lower once they got control of the planes so the calls on 9/11 were never made from 30,000 feet altitude anyway. 8)
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 25 Jun 2007, 23:48:50

Cell phone call made from the summit of Mt. Everest

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32155/145/

Psst----Don't tell the conspiracy nuts, but the summit of Mt. Everest is at 29,000 feet. :P
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 26 Jun 2007, 00:49:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he conspiracy people can't deny that calls were made on air-to-ground Airphones from the planes hijacked on 9/11 planes. They want to lie and claim such calls were impossible, but next time you fly on a jet, just pull out your credit card and make a call on the Airphone. It works like a charm.


Again, some of the calls were made from airphones and some from cell phones. According to the 911 Commission Report, 9 cell phones call were made.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he cell phone issue is also a fake one drummed up by the conspiracy advocates. They advance the red herring that such calls are "impossible" from 30,000 feet, but back in the real world the hijackers flew lower once they got control of the planes so the calls on 9/11 were never made from 30,000 feet altitude anyway.


Again, why is this new cell-phones-on-airliners technology so wonderful, deserving of the news report and product announcement above, if it is totally unnecessary anyway?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('New Scientist Jun '07', 'O')ne of the last telephone-free environments on the planet, the airplane, is about to be connected, allowing travellers to make mobile phone calls at high altitude.

Requests to switch off cellphones and fasten seatbelts are a familiar part of the take-off routine for airline passengers, but a European company has found a way to make dialling safe and link up people from above the clouds.

"Cabin connectivity is here," chief commercial officer of OnAir, Graham Lake, said at the Paris Air Show this week. His company, a joint venture between European plane maker Airbus and airline IT group Sita, received a green light from the European Aviation Safety Agency on Monday to begin fitting equipment to commercial jets...
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 26 Jun 2007, 00:55:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'C')ell phone call made from the summit of Mt. Everest

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32155/145/

Psst----Don't tell the conspiracy nuts, but the summit of Mt. Everest is at 29,000 feet. :P


From your link:

Climber completes world's highest cell phone call

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tgdaily', 'C')limber completes world's highest cell phone call
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Gloucestershire (UK) - Rod Baber has set himself in the record books by making the world's highest cell phone call from a terrestrial location. He made the call from atop Mt. Everest.

At around 8:00 last night, Baber called a special voice mail account set up by Motorola to confirm his call, and then phoned his wife and kids.

The call was made from 29,029 feet above sea level. According to media reports, the temperature was around -10 degrees. The air was so thin that Baber needed to wear an oxygen mask.

In his record setting call, he simply said, "Hi, it’s Rod making the world’s highest phone call." The call was possible because of recently built cell phone towers in China that extended reception high enough for the 4-mile high call.


I think the more that people read the dialogue between you and I, Plant, the more that they can see what a basically dishonest person you are - an utter liar.
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Re: Mobile phones may soon be used on planes -New Scientist

Unread postby TWilliam » Tue 26 Jun 2007, 01:53:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he cell phone issue is also a fake one drummed up by the conspiracy advocates. They advance the red herring that such calls are "impossible" from 30,000 feet, but back in the real world the hijackers flew lower once they got control of the planes so the calls on 9/11 were never made from 30,000 feet altitude anyway. 8)


Uhhh... no. Those figures are from your precious 9/11 Commission Report. Tho' if you wish to call them liars that's fine. We already know they are anyway, but you're welcome to add your voice...

Additionally, if we wish to assume that the flight data recorder file obtained from the NTSB is in fact from flight 77, then we know from it that flight 77 remained above 25,000 for at least 80% of the time that it was allegedly under hijacker control, and that it only descended below that point once it started final approach to the target. Your assertion is therefore false on at least two counts.

If, instead, you wish to maintain that this record and/or the relevant information in the 9/11 Commission Report is false, then you are left in the position of admitting the record to be a forgery, and/or the Report's statements to be lies, in which case you have now acknowledged that at least one or two pieces of evidence provided by the government are admittedly false. If you admit one, then you are forced to admit the possibility that the entire version of events as portrayed in The Official Conspiracy[sup]tm[/sup] is likewise a fabrication.

And by the way, stop distorting my position, as in:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 't')he plane was traveling so fast that it "vaporized" on impact



Your idea that the plane vaporized on impact seems unlikely, although the force of impact and subsequent combustion of the jet fuel and anything flammable around the plane does seem adequate to have destroyed some of the plane.


The full context is:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'S')illy. That's because the plane was traveling so fast that it "vaporized" on impact (even tho' it simultaneously managed to punch a hole all the way thru to the inner C ring wall). :roll:


which clearly indicates sarcasm (note the "yea, right" smiley) intended to convey my awareness of the absurdity of this claim from the official account.
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