[orionis]

Hey folks, i got a few questions for you.

As most of you may know there are medical programs out there that uses the computing powers of personal computers all over the world as an alternative to renting computing time with the mammoth computers to run calculations for their research.

It has had many results that would have otherwise been un-attainable without years of laborious calculations.
basically you download a program that lets the researchers use some of your cpu to run calculations. Multiply that by thousands of computers and you have an extremely powerfull tool.

So here is my questions:
Would it make a difference at all if public awareness was raised to the point where millions of computers worked around the clock on things like Nuclear fusion research and other alternative energies?

If by having such a program on your computer your goverment would give you an incentive to run it as much as possible would this not become mainstream and common in most households?

[aldente]

I don't think it's about calculation power but rather thinking 'an octave higher' as Victor Schauberger once remarked. Energy currently is generated through heat or at least heat involved as an obvious indicator or side effect. Caveman technology in other words, buring wood, coal, oil. Even splitting the atom in order to use the resulting 'heat' just to spin again the turbine blades. Fusion also is heat (the ultimate if you will) and falls in the same category. It is really a primitve approach when you look at it in detail.

Schauberger thought of implosion as the answer vs. explosion and all calculation power does not help if your vehicle is not directed in the right direction...

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', ' ')So here is my questions:
Would it make a difference at all if public awareness was raised to the point where millions of computers worked around the clock on things like Nuclear fusion research and other alternative energies?

[AndyK]

If you have a suitable problem (i.e, a huge amount of data to be processed using simple known rules) for the distributed supercomputer to solve, sure it would help.

Are there any suitable problems in the realm of alternative energy research?

[Madpaddy]

Yes, everyone leaving their computers on 24/7 to help solve an energy crisis.

That's amusing to me I can tell you.

The fun thing about PO is that even if they sorted out the fusion problem today, to scale it up to a point where it replaced meaningful amounts of fossil fuel would take too long to avoid a crash.

I hope they get fusion sorted so my grandchildren and the rest of the human population of 400 million can enjoy a sustainable and ecologically sound 22nd century.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

Throwing more computer power at a problem will not solve a problem unless the problem is because of not enough computer power.

[orionis]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', ' ')So here is my questions:
Would it make a difference at all if public awareness was raised to the point where millions of computers worked around the clock on things like Nuclear fusion research and other alternative energies?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', ' ')So here is my questions:
Would it make a difference at all if public awareness was raised to the point where millions of computers worked around the clock on things like Nuclear fusion research and other alternative energies?

[azreal60]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')re you that selfish and short-sighted?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')re you that selfish and short-sighted?

[azreal60]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow long would it take to reduce the population to a sustainable number of 2 to 3 billion by limiting food

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', ' ')
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') one-child policy would reach ZPG in 25 years

[orionis]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', ' ')So here is my questions:
Would it make a difference at all if public awareness was raised to the point where millions of computers worked around the clock on things like Nuclear fusion research and other alternative energies?

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', ' ')Are you a prophet?
If we developed fusion we would make the crash worse?...
That just sounds extremely arrogant to me.

Oil spurred on thousands of tech breakthroughs in a short amount of time.
Give me 1 reason that the development of limitless free energy would not do the same.

[Ingenuity_Gap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', 'H')ey folks, i got a few questions for you.

As most of you may know there are medical programs out there that uses the computing powers of personal computers all over the world as an alternative to renting computing time with the mammoth computers to run calculations for their research.

It has had many results that would have otherwise been un-attainable without years of laborious calculations.
basically you download a program that lets the researchers use some of your cpu to run calculations. Multiply that by thousands of computers and you have an extremely powerfull tool.

So here is my questions:
Would it make a difference at all if public awareness was raised to the point where millions of computers worked around the clock on things like Nuclear fusion research and other alternative energies?

If by having such a program on your computer your goverment would give you an incentive to run it as much as possible would this not become mainstream and common in most households?

[Madpaddy]

And the problem is, even if you get a group of like minded people together and live a low impact lifestyle, TPTB won't leave you alone.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ingenuity_Gap', ' ')Our mindset needs to change.

[orionis]

So humanity is a curse, even if we manage through this crisis we will spread through the solar system like a virus.
Stripmining the asteroids, pollute mars and ruin the solar system like a virus taking over a cell.

After that if we find a way to spread to new solar systems the universe is screwed.

If the universe was a body we would be the cancer eating away at it.
That is pretty much the picture you guys are drawing... its rather depressing.

Oil peak is a problem of epic proportions but it must have a solution that we can overcome.
BUT! if you take every problem mankind has and pin it on oil peak we are not going to get anywhere.

Humanity has made it this far in a relatively short time.
If we can somehow make it through the oil peak we can make it through the rest.

There will be suffering and death if nothing is done to prevent it and trying to solve all our problems at once is simply TOO MUCH!
focus one 1 problem, solve it and move on to the next.
It is the formula we have gotten here on.

[cube]

Contrary to popular belief computers do NOT solve problems, but instead allow you to perform a repetitive task very quickly.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('orionis', ' ')Oil peak is a problem of epic proportions but it must have a solution that we can overcome.
BUT! if you take every problem mankind has and pin it on oil peak we are not going to get anywhere.

Humanity has made it this far in a relatively short time.
If we can somehow make it through the oil peak we can make it through the rest.