[mmasters]

I found a good book for SPG:

[CrudeAwakening]

One thing is certain. There were NO explosions heard in the WTC area, as evidenced by this video, which most definitely does NOT show a large explosion after the collapse of one of the towers, despite what your ears may suggest to the contrary:
Google video
Nope, no explosions.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CrudeAwakening', 'N')ope, no explosions.

[TWilliam]

I agree that video proves nothing with regard to the possibility of explosives in the buildings, thus I assign it essentially zero weight with regard to the issue. However the fact that this particular item is relatively insignificant in this regard does in no way refute the testimony of 118 + witnesses, some of whom clearly describe what appears to be sequenced explosives in the buildings immediately prior to collapse.

[Zardoz]

When a building is demolished, the detonations are deafening. They echo all over town.

In this video, taken from a position about two blocks away from the towers, not one explosion is audible:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7415552903

Do I have to drag out the videos of real demolitions to show you what we should have heard?

[jupiters_release]

It has nothing to do with evidence or science for people like spg, their thinking is too transparent for that. It's completely faith-based in that they could never conceive the government sacrificing a few thousand people and a few buildings to start a lucrative war. Which obviously is an absurd and irrational position considering we're facing imminent die-off of billions of people, but concretized faith never related to reality anyway. 9/11 is a decoy, the real conspiracies are right in front of everyone's face in daily life: the poisoned water, the toxic food, our chemical environment, and of course "medicine" which is the leading cause of death in the states. It would be tragic if spg got a grip of reality because she would probably drown in schizophrenia.

[CrudeAwakening]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CrudeAwakening', 'N')ope, no explosions.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'I')t has nothing to do with evidence or science for people like spg, their thinking is too transparent for that. It's completely faith-based in that they could never conceive the government sacrificing a few thousand people and a few buildings to start a lucrative war. Which obviously is an absurd and irrational position considering we're facing imminent die-off of billions of people, but concretized faith never related to reality anyway.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'W')hen a building is demolished, the detonations are deafening. They echo all over town.

[NEOPO]

Are the sheeple really worth it?

I say fuck em!

Let the sheeple follow the misguided one's to their doom.

Let the sheeple believe the reassuring lie's spread about by the SPG's and Zardoz's of this world.

It is evolution at it's finest.

It is quite evident that these people cannot compare, cannot compete, are out manned, out witted and otherwise unable to comprehend anything but their own spoon fed reality.

Oh yes go ahead and feel pity for them. Feel sorrow for their handicap yet do not allow it to bring you to a boil or otherwise hamper your own determination to face the truth and act accordingly.

As long as this type of behavior is the example set then so go the sheeple who are barely able to comprehend the intricacies of Peak Oil and ultimately would you/we have it any other way?

Initially perhaps the answer is yes yet after some thought I am positive that the truly enlightened one's will rise and realize that it simply is not worth it.

Let them hang, the blades drop and the heads roll.
It ought to be a fine time indeed.

Stay, come and go just as you are, you precious example's of disfunction, of apathy, of greed, of unsustainability, of all that could be said to be wrong in this world as without you the WE would shine no brighter.

Yep, thanks so much, thank you eternally for showing the few, the brave how NOT to be...
Stay in your cities, lobby your unelected officials, continue to prop up the status quo and otherwise do little or nothing as anything else would be civilized.

How I appreciate your time here, so much so as to make counting the ways an effort in futility...

You brilliant minds you

All I wonder now is how long will my friends continue to care enough to stick around and help make this place more then a wet napkin haphazardly thrown and stuck to the ceiling of reality.

PO and that's it? PFFFT!
Oh, sorry, by all means continue to insult all of the peaker sheeple's unintelligence yet please do not for one IGNORANT and UNIMAGINATIVE motherFN second think that you will ever fool us all.

Denial toward a bigger picture indeed.
From the bottom to the top and at this point it is fairly nauseating.

Got a pill for that Hon?

Please make this one green as green goes rather well with blue.

[max_power29]

9/11 was an inside job. Its so obvious.

[Geko45]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'Y')ep. Definitely nothing in a collapsing 150 floor building that would make a bang besides an errant unexploded bomb from a controlled demolition secretly planted by a shadowy government conspirator.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geko45', 'O')f course, there are no conspiracies.

[mmasters]

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geko45', 'T')here is nothing you can do to correct the false perceptions that these people use to convince themselves of this great conspiracy.

[NoLogos]

IMHO, the US MSM is a very sophisticated propaganda machine, perhaps the most effective in world history. I can't really blame people for not seeing that the US media is full of irrelevant information mixed in with lies. The only way I can deal with it is to get information elsewhere and not expose myself to it. If a person doesn't understand how propaganda works, and doesn't realize that the corporate MSM are not to be trusted any more than an old issue of Pravda, then it is likely they will believe what they are told. I certainly didn't know a thing about demolishing buildings when I first saw the WTC collapse; if I hadn't bothered to see what other building demolitions looked like I would not have realized how I had been fooled.

Here is a very big thank-you for all those who spread *relevant* information! We need to know this kind of stuff...

[Carlhole]

"Shadowplay", new documentary trailer

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')HADOWPLAY SYNOPSIS

Islamic extremism, terrorism and 9/11 are now all synonymous. But what if that horrific act was not the work of Arab extremists at all? What if it was something far more sinister – an evil contrived from within? In the past, invisible elites lurking behind thrones have tightened their grasp on power by provoking attacks on their own people, then blaming the enemy as a casus belli – a false-flag pretext for imperial wars. The idea that this could happen today is almost unimaginable. Or is it?

False flag operations - named after pirate ships that showed enemy colors - are deceptive attacks intended to incite war hysteria. The enemy is wrongly accused, and as angry, fearful people demand retaliation, ruthless wars of global domination and control of strategic resources are masked as defensive response.

Like a phoenix emerging from the flames, a wounded nation rose from the smoldering dust and ashes of the world’s worst terrorist attack to appear on the global stage as a beacon of freedom, policing a strife-torn world for the good of all. Yet from the bunkers of Baghdad to Guantanamo's gulag, a punishing war on terror has become an unpopular war of error, as an escalating clash of civilizations is played out on the global chessboard.

With Afghanistan and Iraq still gasping in anguished chaos, Iran and Syria are now targeted for regime change to advance a global Pax Americana. Pundits comment that World War Three has begun. Some say it began with 911

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoLogos', 'I')f a person doesn't understand how propaganda works, and doesn't realize that the corporate MSM are not to be trusted any more than an old issue of Pravda, then it is likely they will believe what they are told.

[threadbear]

From the Vancouver Courier:

"As for the rest of the progressive left, an attitude adjustment is in order. When Monbiot, Dyer, Cockburn and co. shout down a significant fraction of the public as "gibbering idiots" and "nutcases," this is hardly the language of reasoned debate. It's the rhetoric of Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly, shock jock Don Imus and the Moscow show trials"

http://www.vancourier.com/issues07/0632 ... 07op2.html

[Carlhole]

Thom Hartmann's 9/11 Debate Challenge

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ationally syndicated progressive talk show host Thom Hartmann, (Air America), has issued a challenge to those researching 9/11.

He wants a representative from the skeptics of the Government's "Official Conspiracy Theory", the "OCT", and a defender of the OCT, to come on his show at the same time, and debate their positions in a civil manner.

Hartmann tasked his producer approximately 6 months ago to find a well-known defender of the OCT to accept the terms of the debate, and not a single one would. On Friday, June 15, Hartmann renewed his challenge on air, and noted that the problem seems to lay with the OCT defenders, who won't come on the show at the same time as the skeptics, and won't take calls from the public following a few rounds of debate.

On Monday, June 18, Hartmann renewed the call again;

"I mentioned on the program a couple days ago that we tried to put together a program about 9/11 where we wanted to get on the folks from Popular Mechanics, or some variation, someone who would take the position of the 9/11 Commission... and get some representatives from the 9/11 Truth community of one of its variations, and Dave, my producer came on and said we couldn't find anybody who would come on and debate.

First of all we can't find anybody, NOBODY has contacted us (on the OCT side), and we've contacted a number of them, the magazine (Popular Mechanics) wouldn't do it... would come on and take that position, and so... to have somebody come on and say, "it was a controlled demolition", and not to have somebody on the other side say, "no, wait a minute, here", it wouldn't be a discussion, it just be... bad.

It's amazing, I've gotten several hundred emails over the last couple days in consequence of that, many of them people saying, "I'd be glad to come on", I'd be glad to debate... all of them on the conspiracy side of it...

...I am absolutely neutral on this. I'm neutral because I went through this with the Kennedy assassination...

I'm calling for serious investigation of this (9/11) and I'm really pleased to see a community forming trying to find out, not just what happened with buildings 1 and 2, but why did this happen? Who was asleep at the switch? How many warnings did Bush get? Why did he ignore them?

There are these weird coincidences, Bush's oil company was funded by Osama bin Laden's brother, another one of his brothers was having breakfast with his father the morning of 9/11, and these things just make you scratch your head... you know, "what is going on?"

So I just want to put it out, I don't need anymore emails telling me how terrible so-and-so is, or that movie's the bad one, this is the good one, we've got enough of those, enough already, we got it.

And if anybody can get somebody from the "there was no conspiracy, it was just these 19 guys with boxcutters", and "it was all Osama bin Laden", if somebody can someone from that group to come on the program, and debate... then let us know."

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