[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'S')ure even I can joke about schizophrenia, in certain contexts, but in this one....no. This topic is DEAD serious. I'm not insufferably PC by a long shot.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'S')ure even I can joke about schizophrenia, in certain contexts, but in this one....no. This topic is DEAD serious. I'm not insufferably PC by a long shot.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '
')It may be LIHOP or MIHOP and it may be historically relevant to peak oil but far too many people are wasting their energy on this. Getting fixated on any conspiracy means you tend not to progress on a personal level.

Too much of the big picture isn't necessarily a good thing.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'P')erhaps you like to elaborate on your own view of how Peak Oil fits in to the "Bigger Picture". Or maybe you don't think there is a bigger picture?

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'P')eak oil is the big hammer that will remove the bad and leave the good. All force will be eliminated because all power base will be eliminated,and no more control.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'H')as there EVER been a conspiracy that has been proven to be a conspiracy in the history of the US?

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
') Where you absolutely loose me is with hundreds of black bag assassins trying to plant thousands of pound of explosives in occupied buildings without being detected. Jet airliners full of people being disappeared. Cruise missiles crashing into buildings in front of hundreds of thousands of witnesses and being mistaken for jet airliners. I know it's politically workable, but practically, it's just loony toons and the "evidence" for it is completely juvenile.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'H')ad the exact conspiratorial machinations of Enron not been uncovered in a court of law, those trying to create a logical framework to describe what might be going on could have been called conspiracy nuts--and some theories would be lame and unworkable. But in the end, it turned out that it WAS a conspiracy.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')he conspiracy proposed by the 911 Kookers would involve hundred if not thousands of people doing really overt observable physical acts. It's really just silliness.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'H')ad the exact conspiratorial machinations of Enron not been uncovered in a court of law, those trying to create a logical framework to describe what might be going on could have been called conspiracy nuts--and some theories would be lame and unworkable. But in the end, it turned out that it WAS a conspiracy.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'A')n investigation by an independant authority is absolutely needed and warranted.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')he conspiracy proposed by the 911 Kookers would involve hundred if not thousands of people doing really overt observable physical acts. It's really just silliness.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'P')erhaps you like to elaborate on your own view of how Peak Oil fits in to the "Bigger Picture". Or maybe you don't think there is a bigger picture?

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'W')hy do people insist on continuing to parrot this absurd assertion? First off, it would not "require" "hundreds if not thousands of people" to have rigged the buildings. A crew of a couple of dozen men would have been sufficient.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'W')hy do people insist on continuing to parrot this absurd assertion? First off, it would not "require" "hundreds if not thousands of people" to have rigged the buildings. A crew of a couple of dozen men would have been sufficient.

[Carlhole]

Open Letters to Greg Palast

The debate that I tried to put into perpective in my last post is not only taking place here but is also taking place in a larger forum as well. And I'm glad of it because controversy is attention-getting.

Proponents of the Peak Oil Theory know Greg Palast as someone who has trashed the theory, saying that PO is another conspiracy, along with the War in Iraq, to create constrained supply and high oil prices.

He has also mocked the 911 Truth debate using the same logical analysis and contemptuous tone that smallpoxgirl uses. Recently, he made some very derogatory comments about Dr. Steven Jones who has been one of the foremost proponents of the controlled demolition theory of the towers and WTC7.

Below is an excerpt of Palast's recent interview which you can watch at the link, followed by Jones reply:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Palast', '[')i]...And the... so the information that was given out... I haven't seen any engineer... it takes two years to wire a building for controlled demolition, and that's an awful lot of people. You'd have to snuff a lot of people... it's Occam's Razor, if you're gonna take out a building, and you could do it by... look, let's remember something, the US government hired bin Laden... to kill people in Afghanistan. Why can't they hire bin Laden for something else? I mean, that's another theory, if you're gonna take out the buildings, you're not gonna do it with dynamite. It's just not gonna happen.

And there's zero evidence, I mean there's absolutely stone cold nothing-nothing there. I'm sorry, Lenny, but that's what I gotta tell ya...

...There's no engineer! You can have ballroom dancers, you can have great actors, you can have poets, you can have physicists, there's a guy, Dr. Jones, his last big theory was that Jesus met with the Mayans after the resurrection. He's a complete fruitcake, and a complete, utter fraud. Mr. Jones, come at me!..

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'O')hh please! A couple of dozen men....planned the three largest controlled demolitions ever in history, simultaneously planted thousands of pounds of explosives and miles of det cord in the three buildings without being detected, rigged the airliners for remote control, stole a cruise missle, abducted flight 77 and all it's passengers, redirected the Air Force, and orchestrated the red herring war games.

[threadbear]

Interesting about Palast. You know, I really enjoy reading his ideas but he's so self promoting it's a bit obnoxious. He also gushes with unconstrained glee about how great and open BBC is, (his employer)

BBC may be a bit more open than the American media, but not by much. The Andrew Gilligan affair, and subsequent gutting of the staff and board after David Kelly was assassinated, indicate the BBC is in a compromised submissive postion in relation to the state---Oh oh, what a mental image. That would make Palast the lapdog's lapdog's lapdog. Kind of like a nest of Russian dolls, or an Escher print in the Norman Rockwell style.