[Zardoz]

They nearly got their prime minister:

Hamas says the shooting on the convoy of the Palestinian prime minister at a Gaza border post was an assassination attempt by a rival faction.

Hardball politics!

[Zardoz]

Violence follows Hamas accusation

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')We did not join this movement to become ministers but rather to become martyrs."

[Eli]

Well this is going to get interesting.

I think once these guys start killing each other it will be very hard for them to stop. The Government they have now is non functional.

[Zardoz]

Yeah, they should be "alarmed":

Palestinian unrest alarms press

[Zardoz]

So much for the "cease fire":

Schools shut amid Gaza 'anarchy'

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ighting has flared since Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas on Saturday called for new elections, a move the Hamas-led government branded a "coup".

The BBC's Nick Thorpe in Gaza says there is little sign of the ceasefire to which both sides had agreed on Sunday.

[kam30en]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')srael loves the number 10.

Judaism suggests a 10% tithe.

And the Torah! Torah! Torah! love killing 10 muslims for every jew killed.
Have you not been paying attention to the numbers since '48?

10 to 1 is the accepted ratio.

namaste

Raphael

[Zardoz]

Just another day in Gaza

[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam30en', 'R')aphael, it's obvious your hatred for jews dominates your thinking,

[Zardoz]

They're at it again:

Death toll mounts in Gaza battles - Saturday's deaths raise the toll since Thursday night to at least 22.

The past year:

Life under Hamas a rough ride

[mekrob]

The Zionists unleash their latest weapon upon the innocent children of Ghaza.

[Zardoz]

The peace didn't last. Things are getting bad:

Palestinian fighting 'will burn all of us,' official says

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ival factions killed more than two dozen people Tuesday in bitter fighting that has left Gaza sliding into chaos, Palestinian officials said.

As Fatah radio called on fighters to confront Hamas militants and broadcasts from Hamas fighters urged their Fatah foes to abandon their posts or face death, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas appealed in vain for a cease-fire.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'W')hat a mess...

[Plantagenet]

In the typical car bombing, some Islamists say, God will identify those who deserve to die — for example, anyone helping the enemy — and send them to hell. The other victims will go to paradise. “The innocent who is hurt, he won’t suffer,” Dr. Massari says. “He becomes a martyr himself.”

from the NYTIMES article on Jihadi etiquette.

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[Plantagenet]

Sounds like Hamas is defeating Fatah in Gaza...they've got control
of the main road, the high sniper positions, and are attacking the
remaining Fatah strongholds.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070613/D8PNTGOG1.html

Since Fatah still controls the West Bank, this civil war effectively
will produce two separate Palestinian "entities."

[evilgenius]

So much of religion, no matter which, at the street level is only the evolutionary imperative in disguise. All of the rules are merely clever guides to ensure the survival of the race or group. Very little actual thought goes into the rituals. In most cases something that a person has absolutely no control over, being born, dictates their membership. For many that alone is a life sentence.

It is only when you get off of the street and into the higher levels of religion that you get treated to anything that goes against the imperative. It is only there that you hear of concepts such as justice and mercy, self-sacrifice and love. Sadly most of the time that talk only serves as the fuel that keeps the masses on the street going. They are hung up on the sacrifice side of, "Go and learn what this means. 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice'".

Keeping the imperative in mind I will step out on a limb and say that none of this has anything to do with religion. The Iranians are testing the waters, that is true. The reason they are testing the waters is because the Saudis might just be past peak. The more unrest in those areas once kept calm by the commercial (read Marx) influence of the Saudis the more pressure there is to unveil the true Saudi reserve situation. That's the way it goes in a zero sum game. Next up after Lebanon and failure in Iraq will probably be Saudi Arabia itself. Even now the Saudis are plotting not to let that happen.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', ' ')I will step out on a limb and say that none of this has anything to do with religion

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', ' ')I will step out on a limb and say that none of this has anything to do with religion

[Zardoz]

Hamas is apparently going to completely take over Gaza:

Hamas battles for control of Gaza

[highlander]

Seems like US news sources all route through the Iran is evil lens.
Hamas is Sunni. Iran is Shia.
Hamas gets its weapons Through Egypt AK's (russia bloc, china)






Fatah gets some of its weapons through....Israel.....AR's (gool ol usa)


(sorry, can't find the link again or post the image, Fatah guy with scoped AR)