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Re: Paris Hilton Insights

Unread postby Twilight » Sat 09 Jun 2007, 06:59:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'C')an we say "peak Paris" ?

We can only hope this shit has peaked. This is PO.com, and we have three Paris threads?! Hell, even Gulf news had it on the front page under World right next to Oman being washed away. WTF man, WTF.
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Re: Appropriate punishment for Paris

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 09 Jun 2007, 09:59:33

Pointles to make a scapegoat of someone, would it be a Dick Turner or Paris Hilton.
Reckless driving is a minor offence really and should be addessed by fine and/or driving ban for a year or so.
There are far more serious offences, which authorities shoud begin to pay more attention to.
That (or similar other) sentences is for me only further evidence of increasing decadence and terminal disease of western societies.
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Re: Appropriate punishment for Paris

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sat 09 Jun 2007, 10:38:14

Oh, when I read the title, I thought you meant France and I wondered what the City of Light had done now.

Nevermind. :oops:
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Re: Appropriate punishment for Paris

Unread postby Daculling » Sat 09 Jun 2007, 13:04:34

Paris might be wise to take this man's advice...

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Didnt they put her in "real" prison this time? County lockup?
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Re: Paris Hilton Insights

Unread postby mmasters » Sat 09 Jun 2007, 13:23:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'C')an we say "peak Paris" ?

Would doubt this stuff has peaked.

IMO Peak escapism is a ways off.
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Re: Paris Hilton Insights

Unread postby Laughs_Last » Sat 09 Jun 2007, 15:38:02

I hope she uses her time in prison to start a career as a rap musician. Yo, I'm givin' a shout out to all my socializzites locked down in tha pen!
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Re: Appropriate punishment for Paris

Unread postby katkinkate » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 02:37:21

She should be given the same punishment anyone else who'd done the same gets. No more, no less.
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Re: Appropriate punishment for Paris

Unread postby SevenTen » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 12:46:28

Law, police, and government are as full of bullshit as every other section of modern society.

There is no justice, only mercy or cruelty.

But seeing her working a highway cleanup crew would at least be funny. :)
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Re: Appropriate punishment for Paris

Unread postby Pops » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 16:01:43

Have the sand-hole-viewers of the US finally appreciate her ilk for what they have accomplished, what their impact in the real world is and treat them accordingly…

IOW, ignore them.


I had to laugh when one talking head said something over video footage of the circus at her last hearing that I told my wife could have been posted on this site:

We are watching the downfall of western civilization - live on TV.
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P. Hilton and the Turning

Unread postby kochevnik » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 17:09:23

Over the next 5-8 years or so, in the USA, you are going to see increasing distrust of govt, and institutions in general - to the point where we will most likely have a third party pop up and win the Presidency. One of the hallmarks of this sea change will be that people and behaviors previously tolerated or even encouraged, will be come verbotten and despised. The reason for this is something coming (PO or not) called ekpyrosis where every eighty years or so (the length of a long human life) the 'old' ways of doing things get replaced with the 'new'.

Paris Hilton (as ridiculous a cartoon character as she is) is a symbol of what is coming down the pike. Here we have the person MOST 'admired' by many in current society, DOING a stint in jail. Her money, her fame, her family's power did nothing to protect her from the same type of punnishment as some low-class hood would have experienced.

It may be wacky to look at such a trivial thing in such a deep manner, but I believe that there are 'signs' / hints / intuitions that are given to us as an individual and as a society that we can choose to heed or we can choose to ignore - with the resultant consequences for either path.

This is one such hint.
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Re: P. Hilton and the Turning

Unread postby Carlhole » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 17:47:13

Cycles of History

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Web site of Marlowe C. Embree, Ph.D Psychology, University of Wisconsin', 'S')trauss and Howe (whose ideas are, admittedly, controversial: see the note at the end of this Web page) begin with the observation that a wide range of sociological, psychological, and economic variables -- from crime rates to attitudes about gender to vocational patterns -- are well correlated and track in tandem, in a generally predictable, cyclic fashion (see the figure below, where X = time, Y = some empirical variable of interest)...

They note that just as a human life traditionally has four "seasons" each lasting about 20-22 years -- the "spring" of childhood, the "summer" of young adulthood, the "autumn" of midlife, and the "winter" of elderhood -- so, too, can the cultural saeculum be divided in this way. The parallel is that just as humans are born, live, and die, so eras or epochs in history (the saecula) have a natural life span: they are bounded by (begin with, and end with) a time of crisis, chaos, external threat (such as a major war), or ekpyrosis. At the end of each saeculum, the culture must, in a sense, die and be reborn -- or fail to be reborn, as when an entire civilization ceases to exist. The transformation in a society engendered by moving from one saeculum to another is so dramatic, so radical, so much of a "quantum leap" change that one might say that the society is born into a "new world". (Hence, Americans still use the phrase "postwar" to refer to the contemporary era or saeculum, even though World War II took place nearly sixty years ago.) As a nation, America has experienced three such ekpyroses or saecular crises: the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and the Great Depression and World War II. If Strauss and Howe are right, we are due for yet another one -- the end of the current saeculum -- somewhere around the year 2025. This is, of course, a testable hypothesis, so it will be interesting to see whether or not they are correct; if alive, I will only be 70, and hopefully capable of reflecting on the concept.


It's going to be an energy/resources/overpopulation thing this time around.

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Who gives a fat flying F___ about Paris Hilton?!

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 19:45:35

I mean give me a break. FOUR separate threads in the last week?? Come ON... :x
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Re: Who gives a fat flying F___ about Paris Hilton?!

Unread postby Bas » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 19:57:10

make that five... :roll:
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Re: Who gives a fat flying F___ about Paris Hilton?!

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 20:04:53

Yes, well... I *did* consider counting this one too... :lol:
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Re: Who gives a fat flying F___ about Paris Hilton?!

Unread postby mmasters » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 21:42:52

I don't think the founders ever imagined of movie stars and spoiled brats dominating the top stories in the news.
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Re: Who gives a fat flying F___ about Paris Hilton?!

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 10 Jun 2007, 22:50:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'I') don't think the founders ever imagined of movie stars and spoiled brats dominating the top stories in the news.


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Re: Appropriate punishment for Paris

Unread postby smiley » Mon 11 Jun 2007, 15:34:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')ointles to make a scapegoat of someone, would it be a Dick Turner or Paris Hilton.
Reckless driving is a minor offence really and should be addessed by fine and/or driving ban for a year or so. There are far more serious offences, which authorities shoud begin to pay more attention to. That (or similar other) sentences is for me only further evidence of increasing decadence and terminal disease of western societies.


I don't know. She already had a drivers ban and it obviously didn't work. So they should go to something more drastic. Judging by her screaming when she got dragged to jail, this at least got her attention.

Besides. Driving 70MPh in a 35MPh zone at night without headlights is the stuff that get's people killed. And unfortunately it usually is not the people in the full size SUV with airbags all around that have to be scraped from the road surface.
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Re: Who gives a fat flying F___ about Paris Hilton?!

Unread postby leal » Mon 11 Jun 2007, 19:00:03

It is much nicer to look at young girls than middle aged men talking about peak oil :razz:
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Unread postby kochevnik » Mon 11 Jun 2007, 22:27:36

I'd like to point out that I beat Kunstler to the punch - or maybe he stole the idea after reading my post LOL

Kunstler & Hilton

It's been very interesting to watch how absolutely spot on these guys have been - from the 'terrorists flying planes into buildings' prediction IN 1997 ! - to the recent articles detailing the beginning of the class war between Boomers and the X & Y generations.

Such a shame they are so ignored - but on the other hand - so much better for me :) as it's like being Hari Seldon and being able to predict the future in rough form.

You're right tho - you've got this 4T pegged.
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