[mmasters]

See the facts for yourself. It's worth the watch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2431946916

This video doesn't outright say AIDS is a hoax, but it essentially says it. Rather that AIDS is a reduction of the immune system by hard street drugs and or use of AZT. Some interesting facts from the video: HIV is a rotovirus that has been around for ages and is nothing new. The man that came up with the HIV=AIDS connection recieved massive royalties. AZT was rejected for Cancer treatment because it was deemed too dangerous. HIV carriers in the third world live 10-20 times longer than HIV carriers in the first world!

[Falconoffury]

This video was posted some months ago, but it is a good one. I don't know much about viruses, but the video appears to be a very strong argument. I'm more inclined to side with the HIV hoax because the counter-arguments have been much weaker from what I have read.

Smallpox girl I remember was violently in disagreement. Unfotunately, the blatant namecalling and lack of strong evidence kept her from convincing me.

[threadbear]

I used to believe the standard Aids story too, but now I'm a little more skeptical. The book "Dancing Naked in the Mind Field" by Kerry Mullis, a Nobel Laureate, convinced me I should be open to the real possibility that this is a case of many scientists hopping on a bandwagon just because it's moving, not because it's sturdy.

"Science is the search for truth" said David Bohm, "whether we like it [the truth] or not. From my readings, discussions with knowledgable scientists close to the story, I simply conclude, as does Kerry Mullis, the Nobel Lauriate who wrote a foreword to Duesberg's classical work that there is no evidence that "HIV causes AIDS". I have no special expertise. I simply seek the evidence for scientific claims, especially when they have dire consequences for the science itself and the treatment..not just medical..of so many people.--Lynn Margulis.

http://www.robertogiraldo.com/reference ... _2007.html

[jupiters_release]

Scientific consensus is people have overshot the earth's carrying capacity by about four billion people. How many of those going to voluntarily sacrifice themselves? Policy makers have no choice but to reduce population using every means possible.

[threadbear]

Huh? You sure? You think it's biowarfare on domestic populations, by the powers that be? Isn't it more likely the case that a guy who has sex with thousands of partners and all of his partner's partners, by proxy and so on and so on, is introducing a horrendous amount of "biodiversity" directly into his body?

I mean how long could anyone do that and not get several different illnesses? It would seem highly plausible that you'd end up with more than a run down immune system, but an immune system that is completely collapsed

I mean, think about it. Failure of endocrine glands is often precipitated by hyper activity of those glands for whatever reason. Thyroid failure, preceeded by an overly active stage, often. Pancreas...same. Why would this not be the same for the immune system?

Kary Mullis bio:

Dr. Mullis received a Nobel Prize in chemistry in 1993, for his invention of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR). The process, which Dr. Mullis conceptualized in 1983, is hailed as one of the monumental scientific techniques of the twentieth century. A method of amplifying DNA, PCR multiplies a single, microscopic strand of the genetic material billions of times within hours. The process has multiple applications in medicine, genetics, biotechnology and forensics

http://www.karymullis.com/bio.html

[Plantagenet]

New strains of AIDS are appearing that are drug-resistant.

[Yamaha_R6]

wow i dont know what to think.

[NEOPO]

i just posted to this thread yet blammo my post is gone.

got links giraffe or are you just one of those people with a very loud opinion?

i just posted to this thread yet blammo my post is gone.

i just posted to this thread yet blammo my post is gone.

this really pisses me off.

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'I')t is not made by military they would not have released this monster because they have no antidote for it. They only release things they can stop in an elite few... For weapons purposes, right?

[AlCzervik]

This guy is still healthy as a horse sixteen years after being diagnosed. I don't get it.

[TommyJefferson]

I agree mmasters, AIDS is a hoax just like Global Warming.

Good find.

[dukey]

theres a lot of things quite seriously wrong with healthcare
and the hypothesis that HIV will give you aids, then you will die, is one of them. And that, the magic drugs will extend your life ..

Those people in africa .. they dont need vaccines and drugs to make them better. They need access to clean water, better nutrition, sanitation etc ..

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'H')uh? You sure? You think it's biowarfare on domestic populations, by the powers that be? Isn't it more likely the case that a guy who has sex with thousands of partners and all of his partner's partners, by proxy and so on and so on, is introducing a horrendous amount of "biodiversity" directly into his body?

I mean how long could anyone do that and not get several different illnesses? It would seem highly plausible that you'd end up with more than a run down immune system, but an immune system that is completely collapsed

I mean, think about it. Failure of endocrine glands is often precipitated by hyper activity of those glands for whatever reason. Thyroid failure, preceeded by an overly active stage, often. Pancreas...same. Why would this not be the same for the immune system?

Kary Mullis bio:

Dr. Mullis received a Nobel Prize in chemistry in 1993, for his invention of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR). The process, which Dr. Mullis conceptualized in 1983, is hailed as one of the monumental scientific techniques of the twentieth century. A method of amplifying DNA, PCR multiplies a single, microscopic strand of the genetic material billions of times within hours. The process has multiple applications in medicine, genetics, biotechnology and forensics

http://www.karymullis.com/bio.html

[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'N')ew strains of AIDS are appearing that are drug-resistant.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '
')
Who said biowarfare? AIDS is chemical warfare, directly by AZT prescription and indirectly by the myriad of toxic agents in our daily environment. Too much mercury accumulation will definitely give you AIDS.