[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')edit: now a freshman democrat from Florida is talking about if "we put our nose to the grindstone" we can make America "energy independent".

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')edit: now a freshman democrat from Florida is talking about if "we put our nose to the grindstone" we can make America "energy independent".

[grabby]

We are post peak and everyone is watching american idol.
Sounds appropriate. It all goes right over everyones head what is important. Everyone mocking retarded special ed kids with a dream and calling them names, and thinking it is funny.

What have we turned into?

[mjdlight]

I blame oil. It transformed a literate society (read those Civil War letters from ordinary privates!) into a nation of slack jawed, slow-witted, mean spirited yokels.

[Bleep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'L')OL, he just said that "if we work on it" a solar panel the size of an 8X11 1/2 piece of paper could power a house. Why do we have science class rejects in Congress?

[joewp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bleep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'L')OL, he just said that "if we work on it" a solar panel the size of an 8X11 1/2 piece of paper could power a house. Why do we have science class rejects in Congress?

[Zardoz]

Helluva speech from Roscoe Bartlett. If you wanted to introduce somebody to what is going on, this would be a good starting point for them:

Energy resources and our future

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')thers have commented on this incredible energy density in these fossil fuels by noting that just one barrel of oil contains the energy equivalent of 12 men working all year. If you look at the cost of that at the pump, that is roughly $10 a year. For $10 a year, you can have a servant work for you all year long. You may have some trouble getting your mind around that, but imagine how far that gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel, still cheaper, by the way, than water in the grocery store, how far that takes your SUV or your car or your truck and how long it would take you to pull your SUV or truck or car the distance that that gallon of diesel fuel or gasoline takes it. I drive a Prius. We get about 50 miles per gallon. How long would it take me to pull my Prius 50 miles?

Let me give another little example to help you understand the incredible energy density in these fossil fuels and how much they have improved our life and how totally dependent we are on them.

If a big man goes outside and is working really hard all day long doing physical work, I can get more work out of an electric motor for less than 25 cents' worth of electricity. That may be humbling to recognize that in terms of fossil fuel energy, our muscle power is worth less than 25 cents a day, but understanding that helps us to understand how totally dependent we have come to be on these fossil fuels.

[turmoil]

Wow that guy can talk!

Keep at it Roscoe!

Thanks for your help in keep congress up to date!

[dinopello]

He's back on tonight, doin his thing... His voice sounds terrible!

BTW, from the news section - sounds like the GAO report will be out in a month or so

GAO Report Article

[Tanada]

Is there a complete archive of all of Rep Bartlett's PO speaches in an easy to access format somewhere online? I have been sharing with people some of his work, but a link to a single site sure would make it a whole lot easier to do so!

[joewp]

Global Public Media has a bunch of stuff on Rep. Bartlett:
http://globalpublicmedia.com/search/nod ... e+bartlett

[Newsseeker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'G')lobal Public Media has a bunch of stuff on Rep. Bartlett:
http://globalpublicmedia.com/search/nod ... e+bartlett

[thorn]

I have most of them here on my web site:

http://www.xecu.net/thorn/PO/

[Plantagenet]

Rep. Roscoe Bartlett is the main advocate of the "Peak Oil" concept in the U.S. Congress

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_Bartlett

"A vocal proponent of the Hubbert peak theory, Bartlett argues strongly in favor of preparation for a decline in the production of fossil fuels."

[Plantagenet]

Transcript of Bartlett's "Peak Oil" speech to Congress in March 2005

http://www.energybulletin.net/4733.html

[Plantagenet]

DNFTT

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OK, anyone else actually want to discuss this issue?

[Plantagenet]

Rep. Roscoe Bartlett Voted YES on authorizing construction of new oil refineries.

A bill to expedite the construction of new refining capacity in the United States, to provide reliable and affordable energy for the American people, and for other purposes including:
Authorizing the President to designate sites on Federal land for construction of new oil refineries, including at least three on closed military bases
Allowing the Secretary of Energy to enter into contracts with non-Federal entities to construct or restore new refineries that use crude oil or coal to produce gasoline or other fuel
Establishing a program to encourage carpools by giving grants to states and to evaluate the use of the Internet to link riders with carpools, assist employers establish carpool programs, and market existing programs
Authorizing any facility to use biomass debris as fuel if it meets certain standards, such as resulting from a major disaster
$2.5 million to create an education campaign about gasoline conservation
Reference: Gasoline for Americas Security Act; Bill HR 3893 ; vote number 2005-519 on Oct 7, 2005

[joewp]

And this time in prime time! I just noticed, I don't know how long it was on or how long to go.

[Tanada]

Even if he goes on national broadcast TV during the peak veiwing time 99% of the population will turn the channel or shut the TV off because they do not want to hear anything about it.