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Trader's Corner 2007

Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL

Where will WTI crude be on DEC 31st 2007?

Poll ended at Thu 19 Apr 2007, 04:20:21

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around $55
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around $60
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around $65
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around $70
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No votes
around $75
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Total votes : 61

Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Mon 09 Apr 2007, 04:07:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Egomancer', 'O')k!

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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Mon 09 Apr 2007, 06:12:21

A very quiet day with most of the major markets still closed or very inactive in observance of Easter Monday.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')oday the peg is taking the strain of adjustment in reverse to 1997-1998. Then, while asset prices plummeted 60% or more in some cases, if you kept your job, avoided a wage cut and were renting rather than a property owner it was actually pretty good. Rents were cheaper, so were holidays with the baht at 50 to the dollar.
Borrowing in a weak HK dollar with funding rates below U.S. Libor makes the Hong Kong currency arguably one of the best funding vehicles for global currency traders, say Nomura.
Of course that prognosis still rests on the HK's peg to the U.S. dollar remaining intact as the currency of its largest trading partner powers ahead.
HKMA chief Joseph Yam said recently Hong Kong would retain its currency even if the yuan was stronger, although you would expect nothing else.
In private, you do begin to hear comments from economists that the HK dollar has at most five years to go and will be folded into yuan -- the HK yuan.
Of course for now the yuan is not a convertible currency and China has considerable work to do to clean up its financial system before that can change.
Arguably, the drift in the currency mirrors political drift as it becomes more apparent ultimate decision making always rests in Beijing. As Hong Kong's erstwhile competitor, Singapore sets out to attract regional corporates and expatriates with a vision for the future, the difference is starkly brought home. Politically, Hong Kong cannot really control its future; immigration for one is limited under an agreed policy of 100 Chinese a day never mind the lack of commitment to elections. And the pillars of its economy -- a cyclical property market and a venue for mainland companies listing overseas, both look vulnerable to China's own development.
Commentary: The incredible shrinking currency

RE One China, Two Systems.

Did anyone, ever really believe that line? haha That's right up there with, "of course, I love you, baby!" ; - )

I said it all along that HK would be tolerated right up the point that Shanghai was fully developed as China's new financial hub, and HK was no longer needed as an entry point into mainland China. That day is fast approaching.

Of course, for China looking to reunite with its other renegade province, namely Taiwan, it was nice to have a One China, Two Systems policy to dangle in front of them. Going forward that may also not be necessary as so much Taiwanese investment is dependent on good relations with China in any case.

I think that both Tokyo and Singapore should be sitting-up and taking notice of each of their roles as major financial hubs in Asia. Neither has successfully become another London or New York despite their best efforts. Or shall I re-phrase that. Because local authorities were too timid to let go and embrace free flow of capital and the needed skilled financial labor.

Now their day is likely come and gone. Who is going to invest specifically in HK, Tokyo or Singapore when Shanghai is in the same geographical time zone and is on the doorstep to 1.3 billion wokers and consumers? It is hard to make the business case for having major operations in HK, Tokyo or Singapore and then using them as a base for doing business on mainland China. Their role will certainly be as secondary in Asia as Paris, Milan or Madrid is in Europe. At best a Frankfurt!

London became one of the largest financial centers in the world in part because of capital controls in the USA and the birth of the offshore euro-dollar market in the 1970s. Big bang financial deregulation played its part. Now, more recently, the cost of compliance with Sarbox is forcing companies to list, or to move their listing out of the NYC, to London again. That combined with the USA's need for large flows of financials assets into the US dollar zone to help plug their current account deficit means that in effect the USA is doing everything possible to marginalize itself.

NYC is not HK, but financial centers large and small have to build on their strengths to cultivate a sustainable competitive advantages or risk losing their incumbant status. The days when 'we think, they work' are long gone. Global markets never sleep.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby Egomancer » Mon 09 Apr 2007, 15:36:06

I always thought that London has a strong bourse because it remained from their former empire, but I may be wrong :). As the global importance of UK decreased in time so did it's bourse.

There is a connection between the economic and military power and the power of your bourse :).

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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 10 Apr 2007, 02:43:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Egomancer', 'I') always thought that London has a strong bourse because it remained from their former empire, but I may be wrong :). As the global importance of UK decreased in time so did it's bourse.

There is a connection between the economic and military power and the power of your bourse :).

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Sorry, I cannot agree with you. Any bourse or stock exchange gets its strength from the number of companies willing to list their shares there. They would choose one national stock exchange over another based on daily turnover, number of other companies on the bourse, transaction costs, ease of clearance & settlement and based on the legal requirements of listing amoung other factors.

Therefore, even a small country could have a very active stock exchange and attract international listings, while a large and militarily aggressive country may not fulfill those requirements.

Besides the London Stock Exchange is not larger than the NYSE, but London rivals NYC for all other types of financial transactions, like foreign exchange for example, due to its central time zone and good governance by the FSA versus the rather heavy hand of the SEC.

Not to mention fellows like Elliot Spitzer who take it upon themselves to interfer rather than delegate authority to one single regulator. I certainly would not list in the USA. The cost of compliance is too high and the legal risks too great. Who needs it?
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 11 Apr 2007, 03:55:16

Back to crude trading. And none has been cruder than mine as of late! ; - )

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') U.S. fuel inventories probably fell last week as refiners shut units because of fires and interrupted power supplies, a Bloomberg News survey indicated.
Gasoline stockpiles declined 1.4 million barrels in the week ended April 6 from 205.2 million the prior week, according to the median of forecasts by 14 analysts before an Energy Department report tomorrow. Eleven of the analysts expected supplies to drop, two said there was an increase and one said there was no change.
Gasoline supplies fell 5 million barrels in the week ended
March 30
, the biggest decline since October, according to last week's Energy Department report.
``Last year we had a draw of 3.9 million barrels in gasoline,'' Peter Beutel, president of energy consultant Cameron Hanover Inc. in New Canaan, Connecticut, said in a note. ``Over the previous four years, with every year showing a build, the average build was 1.1 million barrels.''
Inventories of distillate fuel, a category that includes heating oil and diesel, probably fell 850,000 barrels from 118 million last week, according to the survey. Eleven of the analysts said that stockpiles dropped, two forecast an increase, and one said there was no change.
Refineries operated at 87.5 percent of capacity, up 0.5
percentage point from the week before, according to the survey. Refinery maintenance occurs in February and March as the heating
season wanes. Units are upgraded before the summer when gasoline consumption peaks.
Crude-oil stockpiles climbed 1.7 million barrels from 332.7 million barrels the prior week, according to the median of responses. Twelve of the analysts expected an increase and two
said that inventories declined.


Source: April 10 (Bloomberg)

Huge move down last week in crude with some follow through weakness on Monday & Tuesday as traders slumped back in after being away a few days for the Easter Break. They closed some shorts on expectations that gasoline draws will continue in the USA. A factor that is making WTI look weaker than it is vis a vie Brent.

In the Brent though the backwardation in the May/June/July has self-corrected, so there was money on the table for those brave enough to grab it. I didn't. Extreme volatility combined with conservative stop loss limits has kept me very much on the defensive. There's no joy in Muddville right now!

Certainly a weaker US dollar lends some support to the crude, a fact that shows up in UST yields and the price of gold as well. Having broken out of a range to the topside now it would be gratifying to see a serious test of $1.3500 against the euro. Otherwise it may just slip back into well-worn territory. No headline value in that is there? ; - )

There is some support on the daily chart at $61.60, but below $63.75 we have been looking vulnerable. If this support goes today then we might expect a re-test of $60. May/June WTI is currently at a $2.95 discount, while May Brent/WTI is at a whopping $5.55 premium. Almost unheard of! Therefore, some of the technical signals are getting seriously distorted by reality.

When in doubt, trust the fundamentals. The technicals are only there to add guidance and show entry & exit points. The reality is that reduced refinery capacity is like a plugged drain on a bathtub. Even if there is crude flowing in, if you cannot convert it into products, then you're going to be short diesel and unleaded gasoline come summer even if the bathtub is overflowing.

You therefore could see a very weak expiry in the May contract, but on the continuation chart the front-month would jump $5 on expiry, just like happened last month. As I said, it really distorts the technicals. Not to mention it screws up the long-only funds and ETFs! That wide front month spread aids short sellers and pays physical players to store oil. The carry is working against the long.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 12 Apr 2007, 09:56:17

Inflation, inflation, everywhere I look. What's a man to think? From the Rhyme of the Ancient Merchant Banker.

Let's start with US import & export prices.

US March import prices +1.7% vs. 0.8% f/c
+2.8% yoy

US March export prices +0.7% vs. 0.4% f/c
+5.3% yoy

US petroleum imports +9.0%
non-petroleam imports 0.03%

Forget rate cuts. The Fed is going to end up raising rates by 50 basis points, yet, if this does not mitigate soon. Even if the IMF forecasts meager 2.2% US growth in 2007.

While the IEA tells us that the Q1'07 drop in OECD petroleum inventories is the biggest in over 10-years practically guaranteeing that even the hurricane season aside that prices will remain high in 2007. Especially, if you add in strong growth in Asia and a weaker US dollar.

Don't expect much relief on the labor front either. Year on year wage gains as well as a tight work force are still pushing up secondary wage inflation as well.

And abroad?

China's foreign exchange reserves jumped to $1.202 trillion in February/March. While their trade surplus shrank slightly to $46.44 bio in Q1'07 vs. $67.75 bio in Q4'06. Still, M2 growth in China is a hefty 17.3%, while loan growth is 15.7%.

That means that as China sterilized its foreign exchange earning from exports that all that extra liquidity is finding its way into domestic assets prices in stuff like real-estate and apartments because let's face it there are no bonds to buy, and at 40-50X price to earnings the stock exchange does not look like much of a bargain there any more either.

I could not decide which parts of this article to re-print as I have no link, so here is all of it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')on't read too much into the big slump in China's trade surplus last month.
The first quarter of the year is a volatile period for China's trade balance as factories change their work schedules and increase production before or after the Lunar New Year shutdown. By May, the data will stabilize.
Unless the world economy slows sharply, the Chinese trade surplus, which fell 71 percent from its February level to less than $7 billion in March, may return to where it was in the previous nine months: between $14 billion and $24 billion.

For several years now, the world has been anticipating a big reshuffle in the Chinese economy, one that would see domestic consumption gradually increase and the trade surplus abate. It hasn't happened yet; it may not for years.
If a balanced economy is one that doesn't consume too much less -- or too much more -- than what it produces, China is a long way from becoming one.
The deficiency of China's consumption isn't immediately apparent. Seven of the world's 20 biggest shopping malls are in China. Retail sales, as reported by the National Bureau of Statistics, rose 21 percent last year to 7.6 trillion yuan ($989 billion). That's a respectable $761 per capita, even higher than in some developed consumer economies, such as Malaysia.

This statistic, however, is misleading. A large part of ``retail'' sales in China should be seen as intermediate business expenditure masquerading as final consumer demand. Wholesale, catering and ``other'' trades are included in the number.
So how big is the retail market in China, really? Arthur Kroeber, the editor of China Economic Quarterly, estimates it to be about half the reported figure.

Retail in China

A $500 billion Chinese retail market would account for a fifth of the economy; India's $325 billion retail industry has twice as big a share in that country's gross domestic product.
UBS AG's chief Asia economist, Jonathan Anderson, makes the
same point differently.
A Chinese family that has a 100-square-meter (1,076-square- foot) house on mortgage, as well as a car loan, must earn about $18,000 a year. That gives a per-capita income of $6,000 for a family of three, the official household size in ``one-child'' China, he says.
China's average per-capita income is $2,700.
``Based on international experience with income distribution, the likely percentage earning twice as much as the average would be 10 percent,'' Anderson says.
According to his calculations, the real urban Chinese population is about 244 million, even though official figures put the number close to 600 million. So the core consuming urban middle class in China comprises just about 25 million people.

Missing Middle Class

If the UBS economist is right, the scope of China's challenge to boost consumption is immense.
On the one hand, 100 million Chinese factory workers are
flooding the world markets with every conceivable consumer product. On the other, there may be just 25 million urban Chinese who can buy goods made elsewhere in the world.

It's not that the remaining 1.275 billion Chinese don't count for global demand, though it's really just the urban middle class that has to drive import growth.
New York-based consulting firm McKinsey & Co. expects a transition from ``Made in China'' to ``Sold in China.'' Increasing affluence will create a 19 trillion-yuan, or $2.5 trillion, urban consumer market in China by 2025, it says. That will compare quite favorably with the current level of U.S. personal consumption of $9.3 trillion.

More than three-fifths of this demand would come from the middle class, or ``upper aspirants,'' as McKinsey researchers call them.

Growing Imbalances

A large consumer market in 2025 is of no consolation to China's policy makers today. In the short run, the only way for them to balance the economy will be to sacrifice some export growth. For one, the serious environmental damage from China's overgrown manufacturing industry needs a response.
How long would the nation want to carry the dubious distinction of having 20 of the world's 30 most-polluted cities?

Besides, China's strained trade relations with the U.S. can only get worse. Senators Charles Schumer and Lindsey Graham have
withdrawn their 2005 legislation proposing punitive tariffs on
Chinese goods. The senators aren't keeping quiet, though.
They have now joined hands with Max Baucus and Charles Grassley, the top Democrat and Republican respectively on the Senate Finance Committee, to come up with an alternative measure to force China to revalue its currency. This time, the threat of the U.S. Congress enacting a law may be much more real.

The rest of Asia's independent access to industrialized markets is shrinking. Research cited by the World Bank in its latest East Asia update shows clearly that China has gained market share in the U.S. in computers, peripherals and semiconductors at the expense of other East Asian economies.
Other Asian nations are keeping their export engines running by supplying to China, though that's not where the final consumers are.

It may be unrealistic to expect another yuan revaluation, though quicker appreciation in the Chinese currency would be welcome -- both in China's own neighborhood and in Washington.

Source: April 12 (Bloomberg)

The upshot is that The Economist amoung others estimated that the fall of communism in Eastern Europe as well as Chindia joining the world economy in a meaningful way may have increased the global labor supply by up to 40% in total terms. Now, in the beginning that was very deflationary and kept inflation rates in importing countries low.

However, now that those one off gains are dissipating those same workers are contributing to higher rates of inflation through higher output of finished goods and the inputs needed to produce them as well as in terms of consumption by those workers as they climb the ladder of relative affluence. Chindia and Eastern Europe are now exporting that inflation around the world. That trend is not likely to change anytime soon.

Ironically, there is one other commodity that China can still export to bring down domestic inflation and take the heat out of a protectionist Congress in the US, eh. And that is Chinese labor.

Chinese workers are already toiling away for Chinese companies in Africa where there are real or perceived labor shortages. Why bother with finicky locals when you can bring your own hardworking and easier to control miners?

Chinese workers are also starting to staff factories in unlikely places like Romania. They do the jobs the locals have left Romania to do for more money elsewhere in the EU. While the Chinese are happy to work harder for less in clean, well-equipped factories in Romania because, hey, at least its not in one of ten of the top twenty most polluted cities in the world like back in China. Hey Brussels, those aren't Chinese exports. They are EU produced!

Not to mention au pairs and nannies the world over as well as care givers in places like Japan where Japanese schooled Chinese are replacing workers in a rapidly aging population there.

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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby cube » Fri 13 Apr 2007, 01:24:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '.')..
The market as well as time always teach us humility if nothing else!
...
who was it who said:
"Wall Street has the highest tuition fees of any college." :P

Anyways I've been long gold for 2 weeks now and it's been bullish. I still think there's enough momentum to go higher.

Is cube going to learn a lesson in humility or count his gold profits? time will tell...
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 13 Apr 2007, 02:36:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '.')..
The market as well as time always teach us humility if nothing else!
...
who was it who said:
"Wall Street has the highest tuition fees of any college." :P

Anyways I've been long gold for 2 weeks now and it's been bullish. I still think there's enough momentum to go higher.

Is cube going to learn a lesson in humility or count his gold profits? time will tell...


EUR/USD broke through $1.3500 to the topside overnight, while 10y-UST yields increased to 4.73%, so it looks like the fundamentals support your view for the moment. As my last post attests, it seems inflation is alive and well in many corners of the world, so this all have taken its toll on the view that inflation was tame, and therefore the Fed could start thinking about easing to support the housing market. Quite the contrary.

That should help to underpin crude strength as well as OPEC production cuts, strong demand and refinery glitches conspire to keep inventories low in an off-season where we should be seeing builds ahead of summer driving. Heating oil and natgas have also been quite strong, so I assume this is not just the transport fuel issue and also concerns over heavy airconditioner usage this year as well?

GS is also picking up on the inflationary pressures affecting crude prices.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')armest winter paradoxically sparks tightening of fundamentals


Tightening fundamentals support physical oil price rally

Global oil market fundamentals have been tightening at a near-record pace worldwide despite the warmest winter on record and the first economic deceleration since 2001. Brent as well as other physical crudes around the world have reflected these tightening fundamentals, reaching their highest price levels since the end of last summer in response to a combination of record-high transportation fuel demand and lacklustre supply. WTI crude,
however, has priced at an exceptionally low level relative to Brent and the physical market, reflecting more the high inventory levels in Cushing, Oklahoma than global oil fundamentals.

Raising Brent forecast but WTI-Brent spread driven by Cushing stocks

As a result of stronger-than-expected near-term fundamentals, we are modestly revising upward our 3-month and 6-month Brent price forecasts by US$1.00/bbl and US$1.50/bbl, respectively, to US$70.00/bbl and US$72.00/bbl. We expect, however, that WTI prices will likely remain under pressure in the near term due to high inventory levels at the NYMEX WTI delivery point of Cushing,
Oklahoma, which have caused a disconnect between WTI and global oil fundamentals. As a consequence, we expect that WTI will trade at a US$1.00/bbl discount vs. Brent in the next three months, reach parity in six months and return to its traditional US$1.00/bbl premium later in the year. Further, we are also extending our 12-month forecast to US$72.50/bbl and US$71.50/bbl for WTI and Brent, respectively.

Long-dated prices supported by continuing industry cost inflation

We maintain our long-dated 5-year forward WTI forecast at US$67.50/bbl as we expect strong industry cost inflation to continue to support long-dated prices. Consequently, we believe that the price rebound will be predominantly front-end driven due to tightening near-term fundamentals, which Brent has already started to reflect.

Source: Goldman Sachs Commodities Research
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby cube » Thu 19 Apr 2007, 00:35:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '.')..
Anyways I've been long gold for 2 weeks now and it's been bullish. I still think there's enough momentum to go higher.

Is cube going to learn a lesson in humility or count his gold profits? time will tell...
My gut tells me gold can continue rising for 2 more weeks. But I'll sell out next week.

As what a Rothschild would say:
"I never buy at the bottom and I always sell too soon."

sounds like good advice. I've been sitting on my duff for 3 weeks now.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 19 Apr 2007, 05:18:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '.')..
Anyways I've been long gold for 2 weeks now and it's been bullish. I still think there's enough momentum to go higher.

Is cube going to learn a lesson in humility or count his gold profits? time will tell...
My gut tells me gold can continue rising for 2 more weeks. But I'll sell out next week.

As what a Rothschild would say:
"I never buy at the bottom and I always sell too soon."

sounds like good advice. I've been sitting on my duff for 3 weeks now.


EURJPY has fallen from 162.40 to 159.60 so far this week. I think it could possibly go lower still. Stock markets are down for a second day in a row. At least here in Europe today. Bank stocks held up fairly well. Probably in the expectation of lower rates to come? There are some exceptions. But I was very glad I sold quite a bit of equity on Monday while prices were still rising. I still expect this correction to continue. Although I see 10y UST yields are back down to 4.63% from 4.73% and gold is off its highs as well. However, as I am going away at the end of next week I am just trying to reduce my overall exposure in any case. More later. Just getting caught up after an unscheduled day off yesterday. Cheers.

UPDATE:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ast weekend's spring meetings of the International Monetary
Fund and World Bank were supposed to offer a forum to address
global imbalances. Instead, the fate of Paul Wolfowitz was all
anyone could talk about.
Would the World Bank president resign? Would he be sacked?
Might he survive a scandal over his role in promoting his
girlfriend and giving her a huge pay raise?
Whether a man who acted in such a manner has credibility to
root out corruption in developing nations is another question
we're still grappling with in Asia. The reason: Wolfowitz,
unfortunately, refuses to go away.
Sadly, the same is true of the imbalances World Bank- and
IMF-meeting attendees should have been discussing. Thanks to the
denial pervading the halls of power from Tokyo to Washington, the
global system may be even riskier than it was a week ago. Its
problems will merely fester below the surface a bit longer.
Japanese officials, for example, returned to Tokyo thinking
they had gotten a green light to maintain a weak yen. U.S.
officials returned to Washington lacking urgency to reduce their
current-account and budget deficits. European policy makers
headed home after making vague pledges for structural change
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It's one thing for investors to pretend all is well in the
global economy. It's another for public officials who ought to
know better to engage in denial. [b]What if the dollar crashes, as
many analysts have been predicting? What if the so-called yen-
carry trade blows up? What if there's turmoil in China? What if a
trade war between the U.S. and Asia shakes up global markets?

Amid so many what-ifs, it would be comforting to see finance
officials rolling up their sleeves to right the global economy.
It should be reason for concern that they aren't.

[/b].


Source: Bloomberg, April 18th

More carnage expected in light of recent Chinese data that points to growth of 11.1% annual growth versus an already torrid pace of 10.4% which has caused the PBOC to raise interest rates as well as minimum bank reserve requirements. Expect more of the same perhaps as early as today after the market closes if not tomorrow.

This is causing unwinding of yen carry trades and a reduction of risk in other riskier assets classes. Not entirely unsurprising based on my comments on Monday as EURJPY hit all-time highs at 162.40 and the G7 totally ignored Japan's weak yen policy as one of several destabilizing influences on global markets. About time the market starts pricing in risk.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') U.S. stock-market futures dropped Thursday, mirroring declines in Asia and Europe, amid concern that China will raise interest rates, prompted by data showing that economic growth and inflation were above expectation.
China rate-hike fears spook investors

The ECB Governor, Jean Claude Trichet, echoed those sentiments today as he said that markets were too complacent.

While Japan's Hiroshi Watanbe may not be in denial, but clearly does not want to face up to the needed corrections to global imbalances. He says he 'fears a slide in the US dollar' and is therefore 'reluctant to shift reserves out of the dollar'. He says, and I quote, "If we do that it goes towards the depreciation of the dollar. So why should we trigger such a stupid action?" Yes indeed, Mr. Watanbe, why indeed?

I fear a weaker US dollar, too. Just not against the euro or Sterling. The real revaluations for the US dollar have to be against the basket of Asian exporters and not against other developed capital markets such as in the UK or the eurozone. That is the path of least resistance, but it will not address trade or investment imbalances. It just shifts America's problem to Europe, while leaving the cause of those imbalances untouched. My hand is still on the caution button. No change from Monday there!
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 20 Apr 2007, 10:04:25

Sorry, no posts today. I really do not have any new ideas here. It has been that kind of week. EURJPY is right back up near its highs. The Shanghai stock index as well. Hard to fathom what the market is thinking? They are shrugging off risk and taking us to new highs after each subsequent correction. I call this pattern a broadening out formation and I believe it is ultimately very bearish. However, time will bear me out. It is hard to be consistantly bearish in the face of new highs. The market is always right, correct? ; - )

Here is a little weekend reading from Truth & Beauty. They are certainly more upbeat than I am about potential risks and emerging markets.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')t times it seems almost tragic the treasures of analytical talent and intelligence wasted upon the rational, fundamental assessment of financial markets. Although in the longer term, fundamental factors inevitably win out, in the short run (the only time period anyone really cares about) currently, despite the polite fiction of a thin veneer of rationality, markets are driven by an
accelerating oscillation between Fear and Greed. Volatility has
recently jumped - 5% daily swings in some markets become a common occurrence. Both sides of the balance have become exacerbated - market indices keep reaching new highs, rewarding the brave; yet the fear of a global crash is palpable, causing panicked exits on a regular basis - following any loud noise, investors sell first, asking questions only later.

The most recent bout of global fireworks following upon China's
announcement that GDP had hit 11%, rather than the expected 10%, was a case to point. From Lahore to London, everyone panicked because everyone thought that everyone else was going to panic - thus, of course, everyone was proved right!

Although Russia should be one of the world's major beneficiaries of
Any acceleration in Chinese growth, the RTS equity index plunged
Further than most (though recouping most of its losses just 24 hours later). Note that Russian 2007 GDP growth is set to come in above 7%, with investment increasing by 20% YoY and corporate earnings growing well above trend; we can only conclude that, after last year's outperformance,the equity market has temporarily decorrelated from the underlying economy. A catch-up is in order, although given the degree of hysteria in global markets, we are not even going to TRY to time it.

More fundamentally, Russia is enjoying a further acceleration of the
beneficent trends of recent years. The local economy is hugely liquid and popular consumption is going ballistic; massive construction and re-construction of the housing stock and domestic infrastructure are underway, and the popular mood is unprecedentedly good. Having swung from a basket-case to an increasingly important regional power in less than a decade (otherwise unprecedented in human history) Russia's success has not pleased quite everyone. Those in the West who warned
that the "wrong-turn" taken by the Putin administration would lead
Russia to grief are apparently resentful at having been made fools of. The Neocons are outraged, and after getting Russia systematically wrong for almost a decade, the International press continues to present a view almost totally divorced from the local reality. Those of our foreign friends who can afford the outrageous pricing of Moscow hotels should consider coming to see for themselves. It is certainly not what anyone living abroad would have expected!

On the diplomatic front, as the sands run out on the Bush
administration, its rhetoric becomes increasingly provocative;
this simply parallels its waning relevance. Russia is becoming
a major player in the Eurasian economies and markets - from London to Vladivostok. As a key commodities exporter, it has become an increasingly vital partner for the Asian Tigers and Dragons. As we have long asserted, Russia has turned East, embarking on her New Asian Century - indeed, after a very challenging past millennium (and with just 992 years left to go in the new one) her third millennium is shaping up brilliantly!

Source: www.nikitskyfund.com

As for the crude. It is ending the week on a weaker technical note. RBOB gasoline is holding up after a dip earlier in the week, but everything else looks offered to be honest. Heating oil as well as crude and the CRB Index itself all dipped this week. If we close on a weak note it may spill over into next week as well. I cannot be bothered to get involved at this late stage, so best to just call it a week and wish you a nice weekend. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 24 Apr 2007, 06:00:22

Sorry for the lack of updates. Been very busy and will be leaving this week for several weeks in Canada, so in the meantime just trying to clear my way through a tonne of work. No time to trade or be active in the market.

Just as well. It is very volatile. Despite a weakish close the week (my time) the market did bounce back, and is now in a strong technical position on the back of various geo-political factors like Iran and troubled elections in Nigeria as well as tightening fundamentals. OPEC is succeeding in withholding supplies. Something the market may have doubted earlier this year. Not to mention production and refining shortfalls that were largely discounted earlier in the seaon. This was interesting. From a floor broker on the NYMEX.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')rom Sunday. AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first “large-scale” terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.

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1632 GMT Dow Jones NWE gasoline barge prices are soaring due to a shortfall of prompt material, says a trader. "Prompt (prices) are being driven by the barge tightness," and tight supply of physical oil. "People don't have oil in tanks and that's why we're seeing this massive backwardation," he says. Adds European oil
product exports and refinery maintenance have eaten into stocks levels, but the situation could change rapidly as refineries come back online. Notes fears of a Belgian refinery worker strike are also "lingering in the background." A deal for 10ppm Eurograde was last heard at $746/ton in the MOC


That helps explain the price action since Friday. As I said, it now puts the technicals in the WTI for example in a whole new light. Of course, the Brent has been leading the way higher in any case.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Gasoline futures rose close to an
eight-month high on speculation refineries won't be able to
build up inventories fast enough to meet rising demand.
The futures have climbed 37 percent this year,
compared with a 7.9 percent gain for crude oil, as refinery
shutdowns caused gasoline supplies to drop for 10 straight
weeks. A U.S. Energy Department report on April 18 showed that
refineries raised production and imports increased. Demand rises
this time of year to an annual peak in the summer.


Source: April 23 (Bloomberg)

A little on Chinese demand for base metals, but you can assume their petroleum import needs will keep up to their base metal imports as well.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hinese demand and supply disruptions support base metals prices

Strong Chinese demand compounded by supply disruptions continues to support base metals prices

Continued strength in economies such as China, which have shown signs of decoupling from a slowing US economy, along with supply disruptions, has lent support to base metals prices recently.

Potential Chinese rate hikes reduce upside price risk going forward
With the recent stronger-than-consensus Chinese GDP numbers for 1Q2007 of 11.1% year on year, upside price risk for base metals has likely been modestly reduced given the increased likelihood that the People's Bank of China (PBOC) will increase interest rates in a bid to prevent the economy from overheating.

Supply-side delays and disruptions remain an important factor in supporting base metals prices

Delays and disruptions, both technical and labor-related, will likely also continue to support base metals prices. With low base metals inventories and high capacity utilization rates, there is little buffer in the system to absorb any unexpected technical supply disruptions. In addition, unions are typically more prone to strike during tight markets as they believe that management will be more responsive to their demands in order to maintain production.

Source: Goldman Sachs Commodities Research
April 23, 2007

There has been a huge spike in heating oil prices (middle distillates) that has narrowed the spread between that contract and the RBOB unleaded contract. This may be due to refining problems and having to increase unleaded refining at the expense of diesel or the threat of further disruptions in European refining and less imports from there to the USA? Traders may be short physical diesel ahead of the summer driving season and now they are stocking up. The heating oil is not following nat gas, so this is not some late heating demand as far as I can see?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')US price risk remains skewed to the downside on ample supply

US LNG imports have reached record-high levels

Despite exceptionally cold US weather during the critical heating demand weeks from mid-January through February, a surge in US LNG imports, combined with an 18% warmer-than-average March, led to an early end to the US natural gas inventory drawdown season. Given persistent weakness in Europe, we expect US LNG imports to remain at recent high levels through 2Q2007 before trending down to lower levels later this year.

Recent weakness in Canadian imports was primarily a reflection of a weak US market rather than Canadian production declines

Offsetting the surge in US LNG imports during March was a dramatic decline in US imports of Canadian natural gas. As Canadian natural gas rig counts fell sharply in the last six months in response to weak natural gas prices in late 2006 on top of high drilling costs, the decline in imports has raised the question of whether Canadian production declines are the cause. However, we
believe that the key driver behind the sharp decline in US imports from Canada in March was weak US fundamentals. We also believe that expected improvement in rig counts should keep Canadian production declines moderate, but we will continue to monitor this.

Price risk remains skewed to the downside

We maintain that the US natural gas market will remain amply supplied and therefore continue to believe that natural gas should price below residual fuel oil through 3Q2007, before converging back up to the oil complex by 4Q2007, once the refill season has ended and the market still faces the uncertainty of winter weather. As a result, our 3-, 6- and 12mth NYMEX natural gas price forecasts remain $7.00/mmBtu, $7.50/mmBtu and $8.00/mmBtu, respectively, modestly below the current market. However, our baseline fundamental expectations suggest that storage capacity constraints may be breached by the end of the refill season, suggesting the potential for sharp downward price spikes later this summer.


Source: Goldman Sachs Commodities Research
April 23, 2007
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 26 Apr 2007, 04:43:13

I am leaving today. Back on May 14th. I doubt I will have any time to update these pages. Before I leave I hope to post a recap of recent event, but it not, then good luck and speak to you when I am back. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby cube » Thu 26 Apr 2007, 12:58:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '.')..
Anyways I've been long gold for 2 weeks now and it's been bullish. I still think there's enough momentum to go higher.

Is cube going to learn a lesson in humility or count his gold profits? time will tell...
My gut tells me gold can continue rising for 2 more weeks. But I'll sell out next week.

As what a Rothschild would say:
"I never buy at the bottom and I always sell too soon."

sounds like good advice. I've been sitting on my duff for 3 weeks now.
4th week - closed my position via a stop order. :roll:

I still made a profit but only half as much as I originally hoped for. Ohh well, a small profit is still better then nothing.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby pup55 » Fri 27 Apr 2007, 09:19:13

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Hi, Cube:

While Mr. Bill is traveling I will point out this chart. We had looked at this in January right about the time that the oil markets were all down and out.

At that time, we noted that the commercial traders (the blue line) had gotten a lot less short, and this line had crossed over the net positions of the small fry. We thought at the time that this would be a signal that the market was ready to go long.

As it turned out, this was more or less right. With the exception of a false start which probably cost a lot of people some money, the market went long after that and if you had the resources to stay in the game (or stay the hell out of the pits and do a mutual fund like I do) you fattened up since then.

But it looks like this market still has quite ways to go, if the same indicator still works. The large traders need to get more long, and the commercial traders more short in order for a top to be called.

This has some risk from a fundamental standpoint. There is a lot of crude sitting around, waiting to be refined, and the refiners having a lot of problems. It will be interesting to see how the market copes with this problem.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby pup55 » Wed 09 May 2007, 22:55:35

Warning: I am not an investment advisor. Do not accept investment advice from anyone who has a job. Do not believe everything you see on the internet, especially this. Investigate before you invest.

Note: This post is a continuation of the conversation from the inventory thread.

You have to ask yourself the following questions:

a. Are we using any less oil right now than ever? Of course not. Despite the really high prices, we are using more oil than ever. Is there any real prospect that we will use less oil in the future? No, not really. If there is less oil, due to peaking, we will still use all we can, no matter how much it costs.

b. If you think about all of the possible things you could see on CNN tomorrow morning, can you think of anything that would cause oil to drop radically in price? How about the Iranian guy planting a big kiss on the Israeli PM's cheek? How about the arrest of Osama? How about some German guy standing in front of his cold fusion reactor? No, much more likely that you will see any of a dozen things on CNN in the morning that will cause oil to go much higher.

c. Is anything going to slow down China? This is a much tougher one. You can make the argument that a collapse of the Shanghai exchange will cause a lot of problems globally, but after all, China is holding all of those dollars, so even if it happens, they will still be importing a hoot load of oil for a long time. So, this one is not necessarily guaranteed, so you have to watch out for this one.

d. Is there a chance of a stock market or other financial melt down that will kill demand? Well, there is a chance of all of this, but much more likely headed into an election campaign that Bernanke will not rock the boat by fooling with interest rates. We have had this conversation before: He can't really raise rates (which is what he should do if he were actually a responsible public official) because he will make the housing thing even worse. He can't drop them because the dollar will crash even more than it already has. So, the chances are pretty good that the current interest rate regime will continue until conditions force a change.

So, you know, being a PO viewer that over the long haul, you are going to be paying more for energy. You have a little financial risk, and a little currency risk, and if you are exposed to China you have to keep an eye on that, but you have to say that on the whole, it is a no brainer that energy will cost more going into the future.

So, what you want to do is position yourself to maximize the long term gain, and keep away from the short term pain, which is a situation like today when the inventory report comes out against you and the market goes the other way on you temporarily.

I have suggested in the past use of mutual funds to accomplish this. This takes some of the vegas element out of it, but also makes it so that you do not have to have deep pockets to stay in the game. I believe in this so strongly that I did it myself. Last year I was sad, the price of oil went down, and I only made 8%. The year before I got 44% or something. In either case, the casual viewer of PO.com can easily offset the price of increased gas at the pump by some appropriate investing.

Now this is not to say that the strategy is without risk. Example: During the February stock hiccup, the oil stocks, and even the funds, were pretty hard hit. However, this proved to be temporary, so if you were patient, or had some money on the side to dollar cost average, you came out fine this time. There is some risk on all of this, so you might not come out fine next time, so beware.

If you insist in trying to do this thing via the commodities exchanges, I never was able to figure out how to make money in it dependably, but it is pretty clear that crude oil is in a trading range right now, so if it is cheap, buy it, and if it gets expensive, sell it until it breaks out, which it will when the first hurricane hits. You need to either have deep pockets, and be willing to sweat out a down day/week/month and avoid a margin call, or be prepared to hedge your long or short positions with put or call options respectively to keep from losing your butt, because you know just from being around for awhile that over the last six months the oil price has gone from 49 to 67 and interday swings of more than a dollar will stop out a good trade so fast it will make your head spin if your stops are set too close.

It is also not unheard of to do spreads. Example: today, crude oil is kind of beaten down and RBOB is stable and high, so you might short one and go long on the other and wait for the correction. Same with Brent vs WTI. Right now, Brent is high, and WTI is low, so this is probably another spread opportunity.

All of these spreads and hedging your position with calls and puts cuts into your profit and also tends to fatten up the brokers because you have to pay commissions on this stuff, so beware on that too. But for the time being, until the price breaks out on the upside, which it will at some point, you have to do it if you do not have deep pockets.

If you want to invest in individual stocks, and take on the extra risk that you would have by reduced diversification, I would say the most vulnerable are the giant integrated oil companies, and the most assured of success will be the drillers and oil service people. The refiners and pipeline people will be in between. Since you know what is going to happen (per a, b and c above) all you need to do is be patient and not panic if the market corrects, and wait it out and eventually you will be all right.

Go ahead and buy some gold if you want. I will not argue with the gold bugs that infest this forum, although they have been mainly laying low lately.

I did pretty well on my 3.55 Euro that I had left over from a trip in 2003. Since that time, I am up to about $5.10. Lesson: The dollar is headed down, Bernanke cannot defend it without having blood in the housing market, so do with this information what you will. Remember that oil is denominated in dollars, so a drop in the dollar will put even more upward pressure on the oil price.

Anyway if you do not spend everything you make, that is, have savings, consider yourself lucky. This is all the advice I have for now.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby oilluber » Wed 09 May 2007, 23:39:15

hi Pupp, I am holding stocks of mining companies and
oil companies. THat is , Hard assets,,,, anything but the USD,
preparing for the worst in the US and the Best in CHina.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby eastbay » Thu 10 May 2007, 00:59:49

I have suggested in the past use of mutual funds to accomplish this. This takes some of the vegas element out of it, but also makes it so that you do not have to have deep pockets to stay in the game. I believe in this so strongly that I did it myself. Last year I was sad, the price of oil went down, and I only made 8%. The year before I got 44% or something. In either case, the casual viewer of PO.com can easily offset the price of increased gas at the pump by some appropriate investing.


This is excellent advice from pup55. In fact, integrating a few of the ideas kindly offered by pup55, along with a few of my own, my choice is energy-based sector funds which are IMO the perfect way to invest in What We Know without the trauma and drama of picking individual energy company stocks. Be aware there is quite a bit of price swing in the energy sector, as the veterans will tell you, so you have to be able to withstand the sight of your investment quickly moving 5, 10, maybe even 15% up or down without getting too excited.

Funds representing various energy sectors include (among many) those focusing on traditional oil companies, energy service companies, or emerging alternative energy companies are available. If you wish to narrow it even more, you can invest in funds focusing on solar, wind, or tar (oil) sands, for example.

If you have the stomach, you can also try trading in energy-based ETF's, but much like trading individual stocks, this can be a mighty quick way to lose money too, so personally I avoid them.

Either way, watch for the first sign of a hurricane and when it starts to threaten any oil infrastructure, watch for the spike in price, then prepare to sell all or part. Then afterwards, sit and wait until prices settle back, then move in again. This hurricane season is predicted to be busy, so have fun!

This bears repeating and is Very Important: The best advice of all is to never trust what Any Internet Guy says, so do some research first. However, with all the knowledge and information available here and at a few other PO-based sites, there is no reason why all of us can't be making a few bucks off this disaster before it starts to get ugly. You don't need very much money to do this, so get on it.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby pup55 » Thu 10 May 2007, 09:25:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am holding stocks of mining companies and
oil companies


Sounds like a winner to me. Sit on them and fatten up. Is there anybody that seriously thinks that oil and/or metals will get cheaper?

If the stocks have a bad day, or week, laugh it off because you know that eventually, either this summer, or the next one, or the one after that, you will come out ahead.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Unread postby eastbay » Thu 10 May 2007, 10:31:40

Is there anybody that seriously thinks that oil and/or metals will get cheaper?

The only boogie man with the power to take down metals and oil is Mr. Recession, well, of course, along with his nasty relative, Mr. Depression. Anyhow, he's going to give us a visit at some point (maybe after summer) so be ready to meet him.

Until then, investments in these two areas, oil in particular, are just about certain winners.
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