[Troyboy1208]

Now this is something you dont want to have to deal with Monday morning:

Tanker Truck Destroys San Francisco Roadway

[cynicalheretic]

Well, gas prices are going up. lol

[eastbay]

www.cnn.com

... now has footage of the tanker in flames and the collapsed upper freeway. This is going to make for an interesting commute... apparently this is on the WB approach to the Bay Bridge and it's now destroyed.

Let's see how fast this freeway can be rebuilt.

[Eli]

Let me be the first to point out the obvious.

This was an obvious controlled demolition. Gasoline burns at 1256 Fahrenheit there is no way that is hot enough to bring down a concrete overpass.


The sheeple are so easily fooled.

[lateStarter]

Perhaps Raphael can explain to us the significance of the numbers '80', '580', and '880' and how it relates to this number:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')asoline burns at 1256 Fahrenheit

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'L')et me be the first to point out the obvious.

This was an obvious controlled demolition. Gasoline burns at 1256 Fahrenheit there is no way that is hot enough to bring down a concrete overpass.


The sheeple are so easily fooled.

[MD]

It doesn't even have to burn if it's an asphalt roadway. Go pour some gasoline on your driveway as a test. Gasoline turns asphalt into loose pebbles.

Set it on fire and the roadway will burn and melt away in no time.

[Newsseeker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'I')t doesn't even have to burn if it's an asphalt roadway. Go pour some gasoline on your driveway as a test. Gasoline turns asphalt into loose pebbles.

Set it on fire and the roadway will burn and melt away in no time.

[eastbay]

Oh goodness everyone. This is a gas truck accident. Period.

[I_Like_Plants]

Yeah, I heard about it this morning, they had "Dr Bill Wattenburg" on too, explaining that he and his shadowy group had been studying this for years, that laden tanker trucks are an accident waiting to happen, and if one gets into the hands of a terrorist, can do a lot of harm.

Not that this is the situation here, it's just a stupid fucking early morning truck accident.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'E')ngineers said the concrete roadway's steel underbelly seems to have heated to a sufficient temperature to bend the metal, which then pulled the roadbed off its supports.

Guess that kinda fucks up all those conspiracy theories doesnt it.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newsseeker', '
')
Which begs the question why would TPTB want to bring down this overpass? Why not the bridges going into Manhattan island. Now that's a target. Viewing this as controlled demolition is not realistic in my opinion.

[I_Like_Plants]

The funny art about that is, though, that California is not reallly a blue state - it's purple. It's about evenly red and blue, and there are tons of SUV-driving rednecks even in the Bay Area. In fact, one day I was noticing that really quite a lot of people here wear cowboy boots. Now I have lived in a Democrat stronghold, and the only place I saw cowboy boots worn then was on TV, on John Wayne lol. Also, white "urban" music is popular here, there's also Ranchero, which is hispanic rednecky sort of stuff, and country, or KUNT'ry, is "real popular" here.

A piece of bridge out is is more likely to bag SUVs than Prii.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'T')he funny art about that is, though, that California is not reallly a blue state - it's purple. It's about evenly red and blue, and there are tons of SUV-driving rednecks even in the Bay Area. In fact, one day I was noticing that really quite a lot of people here wear cowboy boots. Now I have lived in a Democrat stronghold, and the only place I saw cowboy boots worn then was on TV, on John Wayne lol. Also, white "urban" music is popular here, there's also Ranchero, which is hispanic rednecky sort of stuff, and country, or KUNT'ry, is "real popular" here.

A piece of bridge out is is more likely to bag SUVs than Prii.

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')But the guy in the Hummer has a higher likely hood of surviving than the guy in the Honda.

Ergo, on the whole, a broken bridge is more likely to kill a Democrat.

Additionally, Republicans are far more likely to drive in a car by themselves rather than carpool. So even if 1 Republican car and 1 Democrat car each go off of the bridge, the odds are that the death ratio was 3-1 in favor of Bush.

[Tyler_JC]

Hummer Crash Test Ratings
Prius Crash Test Rating

Looks like the Hummer beats the Prius in terms of Frontal Crashes For the driver.

And if you fall off a big overpass, I think you might possibly fall front-first (the weight of that big V-8 engine)

The Hummer also wins in side-impact tests for both the driver and the passengers.

So if the car spins on its sides, you're better off in the Hummer.

Basically unless it lands on its top, you have a better chance of surviving in the Hummer.

[I_Like_Plants]

OK ok I'll give you that. Frankly the Prius is not made to play bumper-cars with.

Travel in that area's going to be a real Kunstlerfuck* in the morning


*Kunstlerfuck - clusterfuck traceable directly to the dependence on oil and on car travel.

[pup55]

Well let's see....

Let's say that these 280,000 commuters have to drive an extra 10 miles out of their way in the morning and also at night because this bridge is out: That's 5.6 extra million vehicle miles. But maybe we will get really lucky and at least half of them will carpool. That's 2.8 million vehicle miles, so this will still cause an extra fuel consumption (at 20 miles per gallon) of 3,333 barrels of oil per day (140,000 thousand gallons at 42 gallons per barrel).

But then let's also say that the resultant traffic jams around the city caused by these poor commuters having to go around the problem somehow will affect 3 times as many commuters, and the traffic will slow down to the extent that they are burning an extra half gallon of gas per day because of the screwed up traffic. 840,000 commuters, .5 gallons per commuter, 420K gallons).

That's another 10,000 barrels of oil per day, for a total of about 13,333 barrels of oil per day for this one catastrophe.

So over the next roughly 75 days this will add up to an additional million barrels of oil. Those of us that follow the inventory reports well know that this part of the country is the very worst from the standpoint of inventory, and also, that the system is on edge as it is. But this illustrates the actions of some truck driver at 3am has a big magnifying effect throughout the entire system.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '
')So over the next roughly 75 days this will add up to an additional million barrels of oil.

[strider3700]

Ahh but they will simply mismanage the additional traffic requirements so badly that people will give up on commuting via car and demand an alternative. The city will be free to cram some form of mass tranit through in order to deal with the congestion in an emergency situation and demand destruction can be forced on the people.

The CIA took out the road at the request of the city who recieved kick backs from the bus manufacturers. The 200 ft tall flames caught on video will make it easy to explain why years from now the road still hasn't been repaired