[Newsseeker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mechler', 'A')nyone think that the shortages will be severe enough to impact food deliveries to grocery stores? Did anything like that happen in the '70s?

I don't care so much if I can't get gas - I do care if I can't get food!

Mech

[DantesPeak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mechler', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', '
')The awareness level is increasing. Still 99% of the country will falsely conclude when shortages start it has nothing to do with peak oil.

[shortonoil]

DantesPeak said:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o the problem is complex - the right oil is not available in the right place at the right time. This is happening not just in the US, but in the whole world. These problems appear to be an effect of PO - which brings lower quality oil and increasing difficulty using it efficiently (EROEI).

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '.')..As to making homemade beer, you had better entertain the idea of smoking pot instead; you may want to eat the barley.

[Gazzatrone]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '.')..As to making homemade beer, you had better entertain the idea of smoking pot instead; you may want to eat the barley.

[Eli]

Yup beer can substitute for food.

But the point about the grain is well taken.

All grain brewing is the cheapest way to go once the equipment is purchased. Ladder Tun made out of an old igloo ice chest is all you really need to steep the grains.


You could keep a 100lbs of grain on hand to do your brewing and it could also serve as emergency food stash.

[Sheb]

Over the past week, I have noticed two or more out-of-gas pumps at every gas station I have hit here in Charlottesville, Virginia(which is quite a bit, as I am currently rotating my supply).

Anyone else noticing an increase in "sorry out of gas" bags over pump nozzles? Where?

[shortonoil]

Sheb said:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ver the past week, I have noticed two or more out-of-gas pumps at every gas station I have hit here in Charlottesville, Virginia(which is quite a bit, as I am currently rotating my supply).

[Twilight]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'Y')up beer can substitute for food.

[Gazzatrone]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'Y')up beer can substitute for food.

[peripato]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')he just in time delivery model is set up to fail when there are fuel supply problems.

That is the whole point there is a minimum of excess stock on the shelves. In areas of California and Colorado I could see store shelves running bare. Will people starve that is very doubtful but there will probably be lots of people eating canned lima beans for a week because that is all they can get.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')hortonoil wrote:
...As to making homemade beer, you had better entertain the idea of smoking pot instead; you may want to eat the barley.

[Sheb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'Y')up beer can substitute for food.

[Twilight]

Apologies for the off-topic post.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sheb', 'T')ure enough enough, Twilight. Although I had heard it was 1% alcohol that would kill any pathogenic (to mammals) microorganisms. I'm sure it is probably between 1% & 2%.

It is for this reason I take a small quantity of grain alcohol with me whenever I camp or hike. Should the need arise, it can be a water sanitizer, disinfectant, fire accelerant, and (in dire cases), an anesthetic. I still need to get a gallon or two for emergency supplies...though vodka may be a cheaper (per C2H5-OH content) substitute for home.

[gnm]

Actually Twilight I have used water purification tablets to clean a wound. I mashed a few and mixed them with a half cup of water to clean a nasty tomahawk wound on my leg when I didnt have any other medical materials available for a couple days. The iodine based tabs work quite well in this respect.

-G

[Twilight]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'T')he iodine based tabs work quite well in this respect.

-G

[Sheb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'A')ctually Twilight I have used water purification tablets to clean a wound. I mashed a few and mixed them with a half cup of water to clean a nasty tomahawk wound on my leg when I didnt have any other medical materials available for a couple days. The iodine based tabs work quite well in this respect.

-G

[Gazzatrone]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sheb', 'N')ow, the question on everyone's mind, GNM...*how* did you get a tomahawk wound?

[Twilight]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sheb', 'N')ow, the question on everyone's mind, GNM...*how* did you get a tomahawk wound?

[gnm]

ding ding ding Twilight wins the prize. Rather embarrasingly, I was practicing for speed. Throw a couple and step towards the target to retrieve them just as the last was thrown. I got into a rythm of sorts and got sloppy. One spun back and embedded itself in my shin - right on the corner of the blade no less. I looked down and my pant leg was soaked in blood from the knee down. So I walked back to camp and by the time I got there I had blood squelching in my shoe. The actual wound wasn't too bad. Maybe an inch and a half or 2. I suppose it could have used a couple stiches. But it didn't tear up too much muscle because the bone stopped it. I actually did use whiskey to clean it. and finally the iodine solution. It healed nicely after a month or so leaving only a small scar. Providone iodine is the name of the solution you are looking for. Its widely used in hospitals.

-G