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Re: Vacation to Baghdad anyone?

Unread postby jato » Fri 13 Apr 2007, 19:41:20

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Re: Vacation to Baghdad anyone?

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 13 Apr 2007, 19:47:36

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Re: Vacation to Baghdad anyone?

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Fri 13 Apr 2007, 20:10:40

I hear they have nice markets.
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Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Denny » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 18:17:23

I saw a poll in the Report on Business paper today, and apparently 78% of the readers will take their full allotment of days this year. Where I work they'll only allow us to slide one week of vacation for two months beyond the year, then we lose the days if not taken.

Next year, I'll be getting 7 weeks and it will be hard to squeeze them in. I think it would be fairer all around if our company offered younger people with families, 4 weeks, and reduced it at the other end, to a max of 5 weeks.

Its also easier to plan that way.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 18:32:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'I') saw a poll in the Report on Business paper today, and apparently 78% of the readers will take their full allotment of days this year. Where I work they'll only allow us to slide one week of vacation for two months beyond the year, then we lose the days if not taken.

Next year, I'll be getting 7 weeks and it wil be hard to squeeze them in.


Gosh I feel so sad for you, given that I have been working 22 years as an adult and just this year reached the three weeks vacation level.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby mmasters » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 19:25:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'I') saw a poll in the Report on Business paper today, and apparently 78% of the readers will take their full allotment of days this year. Where I work they'll only allow us to slide one week of vacation for two months beyond the year, then we lose the days if not taken.

Next year, I'll be getting 7 weeks and it wil be hard to squeeze them in.


Gosh I feel so sad for you, given that I have been working 22 years as an adult and just this year reached the three weeks vacation level.

Damn, I've only been in the corporate world for 3 years and I get 4 weeks vacation, 7 sick days, 3 personal days and 10 company holidays.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Newsseeker » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 19:43:27

I'm a college student and I make full use of my breaks. Got anotehr one coming up week after next.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Twilight » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 20:52:28

Similar thing here, 4 weeks of paid holiday, not including Christmas and New Year - that's additional. You get that the moment you walk through the door. Though I have a feeling it's a legal entitlement.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised, that's probably why I had 4 weeks' paid holidays when I was a part-time waiter and barman while studying.

Oh, and hell yeah I'll use them all. Always do, every last one.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Aaron » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 22:03:12

You will continue to use all of them until you rise high enough in your company for you to measure the time away in lost influence.

Cat's away the mice will play.

Then you will find it more difficult to use those wonderful vacation days, because while you are away your rivals will work to crush you.

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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Kingcoal » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 22:45:29

In the US, vacation is not a legal entitlement. You take vaca at your own risk. I worked at Lucent years ago and I knew guys who had half a years vaca built up from years of rolling it into the next year. In their infinite wisdom, Lucent decided to stop allowing employees to roll over their vacation time. About half the company put in for vacation - until the end of the year!!! It was hilarious. The year was 1999 and they couldn't have that, so they paid those people for all their rolled over vaca. I knew some guys who got checks for over $100K!!

Paid vacation is a pre peak phenomenon. Watch it vanish as we run out of oil, along with a lot of other perks.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 23:01:38

Ahhh Aaron you are so right about that.

At a certain point the 'competition' from within the organization starts to collect 'evidence' to be used against you and when you're not there the collection activity can run rampant. I think that's part of the reason we see so many weasly types in the upper echelons of many organizations.

I now get 365 vacation days each year, but I find plenty of things to do Between volunteering here and there and keeping the compound organized, it's almost as if I'm still working... except without the pay and the headaches. 8)
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 23:17:51

Yep, Aaron is right. But, I rarely have the need to take more than 2-3 days off in a row to go hiking (fall) or canoeing (spring) usually. Only if I was going to travel to Europe or something would I need to take a week or more at a time and I do that very rarely now (unless its for work). I like just taking a day off to hang out sometimes. I have no trouble using up 4 weeks a year of vacation.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Twilight » Sat 28 Apr 2007, 23:42:57

Aaron isn't quite right, in Europe working late can lead to expressions of concern as to why you aren't coping. It's a culture thing. You work your hours and no more, you leave, and you take your holiday.

There is variation between organisations of course, and the UK has an overtime culture quite different to what you see on the continent, but we don't have anything quite so predatory. The idea of holidays as a display of weakness is alien.

Yes, paid holidays will disappear as the crisis bites, but such changes will be accompanied by crippling general strikes. And if the Winter of Discontent is any guide, eventually we will have a shorter working week and have our wages cut. Those left with jobs are going to curse working even fewer hours than before.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby 128shot » Sun 29 Apr 2007, 00:36:08

I wish companies had roll overs for vacations


It'd be nice, since I'm a work a holic.
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Re: Do you take all your vacation allotment?

Unread postby Denny » Sun 29 Apr 2007, 01:16:36

I find where I work, in management, there is a peer pressure to use all our time too, as some feel if we start "donating" some of our vacation time to the company, they come to expect us to use less of our vacation time. On the other hand, among our hourly rated people, it seems that many of them just take 2 weeks, but get paid for 5 or 6 weeks if they have enough service. You'd think they would feel some pressure to take it as time off too.

I know my brother-in-law does just that, he is entitled to 5 weeks, but takes only about half of that. He actually took moire vacatoin when he was younger and had children at home.

As I said, I don't know why comnpanies don't find a way to give more vacation time to the younger workers, that was when I really needed, more than now. You'd think they'd realize that! Now, I am older it seems I finally get into a good work routine and then I have to take time off, to avoid carrying over my vacation time. Time is going much faster now.
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That dream vacation

Unread postby furrydog » Thu 31 Jan 2008, 13:38:00

Just for fun, what is your dream vacation before TSHTF.

Mine would be Paris. I love to see the Eiffel Tower, Norte-Dame Cathedral, ride on the Seine. Ah, c'est la vie.
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Re: That dream vacation

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 31 Jan 2008, 14:27:04

I have learned that around here, there's a 4-month period when there's no work, little travel, etc. The months are November, December, January, and February.

Assuming my street-artist and street-musician skills are happening, I might find a way back up to San Francisco and spend these months there, supposed to be decent money in playing Xmas songs and there are winter visitors to SF because it's colder than a welldigger's ass where they are.

So, I may become sort of migratory in this way.

The problem being, if I can make it in SF as a street musician and artist, I may decide I'd rather be there all year. Hardly a vacation, then, is it?
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Re: That dream vacation

Unread postby lawnchair » Thu 31 Jan 2008, 15:07:23

Four months on a touring bicycle. With a tent, but with enough dengi for hostels or rooms 2 or 3 nights a week. Through eastern Europe... maybe Trieste to Tallinn? Avoiding cities I've ever heard of as much as possible.
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Re: That dream vacation

Unread postby WisJim » Thu 31 Jan 2008, 15:15:52

Dream vacation--to have enough time to finish up all the around the homestead projects that I want to complete before I am out of resources. A "vacation" away from home for any length of time doesn't appeal to me at all. We have made an attempt to live where we would like to be, so we no longer feel obligated to spend time, money, and energy galvanting around on "vacation". We will spend a long weekend or a bit more visiting people or a site of interest, but that is enough away from home.

This year, as many years, my vacation away from home will be at the MOSES organic conference and the MREA energy fair.
http://www.mosesorganic.org/umofc/intro.html
http://www.the-mrea.org/energy_fair.php
Which reminds me--need to post about the organic conference.
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Re: That dream vacation

Unread postby frankthetank » Thu 31 Jan 2008, 15:22:55

I'm with lawnchair. It doesn't even need to be Europe. I've always wanted to take a bicycling trip. I haven't been on a bike for months now, and it sucks.

I'd go out west to Yellowstone and then drop down through Utah and probably come back up through N California, OR, and WA and then back across the plains. Do it over the course of the summer :)

Probably invest in a good seat.
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