[jdmartin]

Man this thread cracks me up.

Only a western society replete with the greatest riches ever known to man, the cushiest lifestyles for the most people ever to have existed, could manifest people who stand on the street corner preaching "Life is for shit - there's nothing worth living for". It's laughable, because I don't see the society-haters hauling themselves off to Sierra Leone. Only in the comfort of our homes, with internet access, and no worries about rogue militiamen dragging us away in the middle of the night can we post such lunacy.

Unfortunately, I think this is what a lot of us Americans have to look forward to in our next generation(s): the "everything sucks, what's in it for me" coddled mindset; Generation Waaahhh. The funny thing is that if "the crash" does come, the reason it will suck is not because of the senior citizens or even the older boomers, but because of the entitlement generation that can't get off their fat asses away from the Nintendo for 15 minutes in order to make something of themselves or their lives.

[VinceG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', 'M')an this thread cracks me up.

Only a western society replete with the greatest riches ever known to man, the cushiest lifestyles for the most people ever to have existed, could manifest people who stand on the street corner preaching "Life is for shit - there's nothing worth living for". It's laughable, because I don't see the society-haters hauling themselves off to Sierra Leone. Only in the comfort of our homes, with internet access, and no worries about rogue militiamen dragging us away in the middle of the night can we post such lunacy.

Unfortunately, I think this is what a lot of us Americans have to look forward to in our next generation(s): the "everything sucks, what's in it for me" coddled mindset; Generation Waaahhh. The funny thing is that if "the crash" does come, the reason it will suck is not because of the senior citizens or even the older boomers, but because of the entitlement generation that can't get off their fat asses away from the Nintendo for 15 minutes in order to make something of themselves or their lives.

[Baldwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VinceG', 'W')ell said mate! I personally have little respect for people who spend their time on the Internet whining about "how miserable, depressing and utterly useless" their little, insignificant lives are...
People like Hubbertspeak are probably totally ignorant, clueless and indifferent about how life in a country like Zimbabwe or North Korea must be...

[hubbertspeak7777777]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', 'M')an this thread cracks me up.

Only a western society replete with the greatest riches ever known to man, the cushiest lifestyles for the most people ever to have existed, could manifest people who stand on the street corner preaching "Life is for shit - there's nothing worth living for". It's laughable, because I don't see the society-haters hauling themselves off to Sierra Leone. Only in the comfort of our homes, with internet access, and no worries about rogue militiamen dragging us away in the middle of the night can we post such lunacy.

Unfortunately, I think this is what a lot of us Americans have to look forward to in our next generation(s): the "everything sucks, what's in it for me" coddled mindset; Generation Waaahhh. The funny thing is that if "the crash" does come, the reason it will suck is not because of the senior citizens or even the older boomers, but because of the entitlement generation that can't get off their fat asses away from the Nintendo for 15 minutes in order to make something of themselves or their lives.

[I_Like_Plants]

It was only a matter of time before the obnoxious Boomers would invade this thread. I sentence them to read lots of Joe Bageant's essays.

[jdmartin]

1.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t was only a matter of time before the obnoxious Boomers would invade this thread. I sentence them to read lots of Joe Bageant's essays.

[Baldwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o one is forcing you to subscribe. You can even be a homeless panhandler if you so choose.

[MacG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I') just don't give a shit if this pathetic society ends. It's just such bullshit. Here is life in this society summed up: Grow up, go to school, work hard and get good grades, go to college and get good grades so you can get a job so you can do even more work and be a corporate slave, get a raise so you can buy even more useless junk, put up with people's bullshit, get married to a woman who will end up becoming a nasty hag with saggy tits who will bury you in credit card debt, go to church, pray to imaginary friends, pay taxes, vote for dishonest politians based on their insincere promises, get screwed over by the politicians you voted for, have kids that will grow up to hate you, retire, grow old and watch lame-ass sitcom reruns all day and then, you finally die. And it was all for nothing. All that suffering, stress, and hard work for nothing. And people say dying young is a bad thing? I hope I don't make it past 60!

I look forward to dying sometimes, not because I'm depressed, but because of boredom... life is mundane! I don't know if there's an afterlife or not, but sometimes I feel like finding out. Even if there's nothing but non-existance on the other side, it still has to be better than this dogshit we call "reality."

And religion doesn't really help either. Jesus, Allah, Buda, Zeus, Thor, and other deities have no evidence to support their existence, yet every other religious nut is convinced he has all the answers. Scientists have some of the answers, but even they don't really know the hell is going on or why we're here. No one knows. Why can't people just admit they don't know? Is that too much to ask? I guess it is, because humans are know-it-alls. Nobody really cares, as long as they have a mansion and an SUV so they can impress their yuppy neighbors.

Is anyone else slightly bothered by such bullshit? Does anyone else not care if our bullshit way of life ends soon?

[threadbear]

The real whiners here are the ones who are bitching and moaning about Hubbert, who is simply venting. The truth is, pretty damned bleak, and we can deal with others with compassion and clarity or we can join the idiots addicted to therapy, pills and self help books, while criticizing those who refuse to. There is nothing wrong with being angry. Those who are lost in a muddle of depression should try it.

What you have left in globalized society is an upper tier and a lower tier. There is no expanding middle class anymore, except if you sell your soul and become a "team player" for some despicable corporation, in which case you are completely expendable, anyway.

There is no loyalty and the "picking yourself up by the bootstraps" panacea no longer makes any sense. What creeps me out are those on the lower tier who have integrated all of the ideals of the upper tier, as if it will get them anywhere. They are nothing but servile waiters at a rich banquet, an embarassment of riches they will never be invited to.

If I was young, I would rage against the machine, and NEVER bow down to it or be broken by it. If all I could do was go along, so that I didn't starve, but resist emotionally that's what I'd be doing.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MacG', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', 'I') just don't give a shit if this pathetic society ends. It's just such bullshit. Here is life in this society summed up: Grow up, go to school, work hard and get good grades, go to college and get good grades so you can get a job so you can do even more work and be a corporate slave, get a raise so you can buy even more useless junk, put up with people's bullshit, get married to a woman who will end up becoming a nasty hag with saggy tits who will bury you in credit card debt, go to church, pray to imaginary friends, pay taxes, vote for dishonest politians based on their insincere promises, get screwed over by the politicians you voted for, have kids that will grow up to hate you, retire, grow old and watch lame-ass sitcom reruns all day and then, you finally die. And it was all for nothing. All that suffering, stress, and hard work for nothing. And people say dying young is a bad thing? I hope I don't make it past 60!

I look forward to dying sometimes, not because I'm depressed, but because of boredom... life is mundane! I don't know if there's an afterlife or not, but sometimes I feel like finding out. Even if there's nothing but non-existance on the other side, it still has to be better than this dogshit we call "reality."

And religion doesn't really help either. Jesus, Allah, Buda, Zeus, Thor, and other deities have no evidence to support their existence, yet every other religious nut is convinced he has all the answers. Scientists have some of the answers, but even they don't really know the hell is going on or why we're here. No one knows. Why can't people just admit they don't know? Is that too much to ask? I guess it is, because humans are know-it-alls. Nobody really cares, as long as they have a mansion and an SUV so they can impress their yuppy neighbors.

Is anyone else slightly bothered by such bullshit? Does anyone else not care if our bullshit way of life ends soon?

[hubbertspeak7777777]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'T')he real whiners here are the ones who are bitching and moaning about Hubbert, who is simply venting. The truth is, pretty damned bleak, and we can deal with others with compassion and clarity or we can join the idiots addicted to therapy, pills and self help books, while criticizing those who refuse to. There is nothing wrong with being angry. Those who are lost in a muddle of depression should try it.

What you have left in globalized society is an upper tier and a lower tier. There is no expanding middle class anymore, except if you sell your soul and become a "team player" for some despicable corporation, in which case you are completely expendable, anyway.

There is no loyalty and the "picking yourself up by the bootstraps" panacea no longer makes any sense. What creeps me out are those on the lower tier who have integrated all of the ideals of the upper tier, as if it will get them anywhere. They are nothing but servile waiters at a rich banquet, an embarassment of riches they will never be invited to.

If I was young, I would rage against the machine, and NEVER bow down to it or be broken by it. If all I could do was go along, so that I didn't starve, but resist emotionally that's what I'd be doing.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'T')he real whiners here are the ones who are bitching and moaning about Hubbert, who is simply venting.

[hubbertspeak7777777]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'T')he real whiners here are the ones who are bitching and moaning about Hubbert, who is simply venting.

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou don't get it, I'm talking about how pointless it all is. You're response is basically, "other people have it worse than you so quit bitching." So what, that doesn't change the fact that our way of life is essentially pointless. Someone always has it worse, what are you trying to prove? I guess I should bury my head in the sand like you do, eh?

And how do you know I'm well off? Just because I have a computer and an internet connection? My computer cost about $300 and internet is only several hundred dollars a year. I share a medium sized apartment with 3 room mates, I'm no where near well off. Quit assuming things.

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'T')he real whiners here are the ones who are bitching and moaning about Hubbert, who is simply venting. The truth is, pretty damned bleak, and we can deal with others with compassion and clarity or we can join the idiots addicted to therapy, pills and self help books, while criticizing those who refuse to. There is nothing wrong with being angry. Those who are lost in a muddle of depression should try it.

What you have left in globalized society is an upper tier and a lower tier. There is no expanding middle class anymore, except if you sell your soul and become a "team player" for some despicable corporation, in which case you are completely expendable, anyway.

There is no loyalty and the "picking yourself up by the bootstraps" panacea no longer makes any sense. What creeps me out are those on the lower tier who have integrated all of the ideals of the upper tier, as if it will get them anywhere. They are nothing but servile waiters at a rich banquet, an embarassment of riches they will never be invited to.

If I was young, I would rage against the machine, and NEVER bow down to it or be broken by it. If all I could do was go along, so that I didn't starve, but resist emotionally that's what I'd be doing.

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', '
')Then you are thrown in jail and rehabilitated to go back to being a "good" american consumer.

In this thread, we more or less speak as one in the condemnation of America's attachment to creature comforts. Is it really that easy to disconnect yourself from the machine?

If you wanted to live in the middle of nowhere, running a self-sustaining farm with your family, you'd need land, horses, tools, seed, some food, and other articles. That all costs money. To make money, you need to be one of the sheeple wage slaves. If you are a sheeple wage slave, most of your income is probably going into your money pit McMansion, your whiny kids, and your morning Starbucks.

The separation can be done, but it requires time and resources.

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Baldwin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o one is forcing you to subscribe. You can even be a homeless panhandler if you so choose.

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '
')
This is why I am looking at going the one place I think I can hide the best. And relatively low crime, for the USA anyway, and law enforcement comfortably lax. I plan to become as close to being a homeless panhandler as I can! I know I can rent a room for $200-$300, will have no car, no computer (so you won't see me on here any more) and very little in the way of posessions. I will work on my drawing skills, already good enough that I regularly sold stuff when in HS and was in the art awards, so there's something there.... Art very cheap to make normally and much easier to keep doing even when destitute, if someone steals my sketchbook just get anadda one.

It looks like I am going to have to live on something like $600 a month or so for the rest of my life, talk about walking the walk.....

If I somehow get to be really good at sketchin' people, well, first it will take a couple of years, all skills take some time to develop. Then, well, by then I see the travel restrictions that are just beginning now to be much stronger. If I am good enough at sketchin' to make a living anywhere, I might be able to hitch a ride on a sailboat or something to AUS or NZ, and know I'll be able to pull my weight when I get there. However, from what I have seen of the Mainland, I honestly think Hawaii may be a better place to ride out the Depresison that's starting now and PO later.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'T')he real whiners here are the ones who are bitching and moaning about Hubbert, who is simply venting.