[AirlinePilot]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'Y')ou went to a debunking site that does little in the way of investigation, but undermines their opponents using character asassination and ridicule.

[NEOPO]

Do not mistake my unwillingness to easily let go of past transgressions as a weakness.

You see, as long as the battle still rages on and it IS still raging on, then it is a strategic advantage to remind people of your lack of credibility.
You fucked up and until you cease and desist your support of the OFFICIAL lies surrounding 9.11 then you will be treated as the enemy and these things will be used against you.

If you think I am incapable of forgiveness then go talk to PMS who also rubbed me very wrong once upon a time.
Yet you didnt just rub me and others wrongly no you took it a step further.
What did you expect Mr. Hornit? Tea and crumpets?

[Zentric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'I') thnk im real consistent actually. What moral high ground are you talking about? Theres no moral high ground concerning any of this. I'm talking about having the ability to have a mature discussion without hurling insults or slanders. Just so happens most of the folks over at that forum seem to be a bit better at having arguments than most of the truthers here.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', ' ')These guys are all off in their digital Gulag now - Lorenzo, JohnDenver, RGR. Don't hear much from Dezakin or Omnitir any more.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I')mmediately thereafter, you state that:

"Arguments made with maturity, factual evidence, and civility will always hold a lot more water with anyone than insults and conjecture".

What's up with that? You admit giving up the moral highground by encouraging people on another forum to come over and mock us, then try to reclaim it in the very next paragraph, with an appeal to lofty standards. You're all over the map, and obviously not very consistent in tone. Perhaps it ends there, but it leaves me a little suspicious.

[AirlinePilot]

Invective and insult? Where? Or would it just maybe be your inabilty to look past the cloud of frustration and anger you feel for anyone who doesn't agree with your view about what happened on 9/11? See that's just an obervation, there is no anger or anything else in that statement of my opinion. If you take it differently, than that's your problem, not mine.

You guys bring anyone here you want, its all fun and games to me anyway! I mean really, bring it on!

The only folks who come over to share my stuff I invite. Why would you consider this place even closely analagous to your home?

The more the merrier!

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'I')nvective and insult? Where? Or would it just maybe be your inabilty to look past the cloud of frustration and anger you feel for anyone who doesn't agree with your view about what happened on 9/11? See that's just an obervation, there is no anger or anything else in that statement of my opinion. If you take it differently, than that's your problem, not mine.

You guys bring anyone here you want, its all fun and games to me anyway! I mean really, bring it on!

The only folks who come over to share my stuff I invite. Why would you consider this place even closely analagous to your home?

The more the merrier!

[Zentric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'O')r would it just maybe be your inabilty to look past the cloud of frustration and anger you feel for anyone who doesn't agree with your view about what happened on 9/11?

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'O')r would it just maybe be your inabilty to look past the cloud of frustration and anger you feel for anyone who doesn't agree with your view about what happened on 9/11?

[Zentric]

Thanks, threadbear, I see your point. After attempting to bring in outsiders with similar views to trash the discussion, how can AP claim to be either dispassionate or looking for an honest debate?

Perhaps AP will never be forthcoming with us, but given what is known, I can easily see why you believe he might be "pushing an idea for cash."

[AirlinePilot]

Ok, I think ive heard it all now. Not only am I a shill, but a nerd, and somehow, somewhere I'm making coin from this??? My only question to you would be please tell me how I could possibly do that as I need some extra on the side right now. You guys really slay me, that's one of the best ones Ive heard on any forum lately.

Poking into this particular thread and ones like it is purely my attempt at a voice of reason. It's not directed at you really but to the newbs who might just not have been quite convinced yet about particle beams, missiles, LIHOP, MIHOP, CD, or whatever. Their maleable minds sit lurking on these boards and I just can't help throwing a wrench into the CT lovefest. Please accept my apologies, it's a character flaw

As a side benefit you have to admit it's entertaining, otherwise, why are you here? This is my "fun" while reading the meaty threads I frequent. Just tryin to keep you all on your toes.

Thats it. Thats all. Theres nothing else. Now speculate some more for me, this is grand, truly grand!

[Zentric]

AP -

Maybe it comes down to your requesting on page four of this thread that we all dispose of the illusion of your being "a shill, spy or a plant." Your request has been noted, and frankly from the reasons outlined by threadbear, Neopo, myself, and possibly others, there appears to be insufficient evidence so as to comply with your request.

Not to imply, of course, that any of us has the final word on that matter. Take it up with the higher authorities if that's what [besides debunking 9/11 "conspiracy theorists"] pleases you.

Have a good night.

[AirlinePilot]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'M')aybe it comes down to your requesting on page four of this thread that we all dispose of the illusion of your being "a shill, spy or a plant." Your request has been noted, and frankly from the reasons outlined by threadbear, Neopo, myself, and possibly others, there appears to be insufficient evidence so as to comply with your request.

Not to imply, of course, that any of us has the final word on that matter. Take it up with the higher authorities if that's what [besides debunking 9/11 "conspiracy theorists"] pleases you.

Have a good night.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '
') I'm not going anywhere

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'M')aybe it comes down to your requesting on page four of this thread that we all dispose of the illusion of your being "a shill, spy or a plant." Your request has been noted, and frankly from the reasons outlined by threadbear, Neopo, myself, and possibly others, there appears to be insufficient evidence so as to comply with your request.

Not to imply, of course, that any of us has the final word on that matter. Take it up with the higher authorities if that's what [besides debunking 9/11 "conspiracy theorists"] pleases you.

Have a good night.

[entropyfails]

Personally, I feel most concerned with the neo-nazi posters as opposed to the paid corporate shrills. The corporate ones are just trying to keep their respective industries going in the face of Peak Oil and Global Warming. So predictably, they deny Peak Oil and Global Warming exist. When the effects of both hit us, their industries will fall and their ideology will end when reality shows us who's boss.

The neo-nazi's however, are trying to set up a world where when peak oil comes, they get to pick who lives and dies. They are making a power move by shifting opinions that will later become hardened by the effects of Peak Oil and the other various crises we will be facing. If their ideas grow, even the survivors of these endless growth problems will be left with an world of horror far worse than any doom predicted on this site. (i.e. everyone being dead is better than the world they want to make)

They are the bigger threat because they understand the problems we will face, and they want to use these problems to re-implement the "Final Solution." The corporate hose beasts just want to eat next week. (Despicable yes, but far more understandable and less dangerous long term.)

[Stratovarius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('entropyfails', 'I')f their ideas grow, even the survivors of these endless growth problems will be left with an world of horror far worse than any doom predicted on this site. (i.e. everyone being dead is better than the world they want to make)

[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')heney reads this site.

[AirlinePilot]

Aaron,

Im actually an airline pilot even though some here might not think i am!

I access this site through different servers all over the place on a frequent basis from my laptop, and while Im home (now) Im on the regular one. So I'm sure your seeing some really random stuff from my connects. last night I was in Dayton, had a layover for almost 30 hours yesterday.

Is that what your referring to? Not quite sure what you mean about "methods".

Fully aware who the "good guys" are.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'A')aron,

Im actually an airline pilot even though some here might not think i am!

I access this site through different servers all over the place on a frequent basis from my laptop, and while Im home (now) Im on the regular one. So I'm sure your seeing some really random stuff from my connects. last night I was in Dayton, had a layover for almost 30 hours yesterday.

Is that what your referring to? Not quite sure what you mean about "methods".

Fully aware who the "good guys" are.