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Re: Can the mainstream media still be trusted?

Postby nemo » Thu 22 Mar 2007, 04:47:53

Jack's post was pretty much spot on in my opinion.

My most valued MSM news source is BBC. I check my "latest headlines" bookmark daily (firefox ftw!), and I know that if something major has happened, BBC will notice it. It is also the only 24 hour news channel I can access that I find watchable in the least. I get CNN and Fox too. Fox need not be mentioned, and CNN, though it's the "world edition" with the American slant toned down, is just painful silly fluffiness in my opinion. I'm seriously thinking about a trial subscription to al-Jazeera. Like the BBC, they're not really slaves to a profit motive (not like CNN anyway) and have a reputation for actually doing investigative reporting in parts of the world that interest me. MSM has a place to fill in my information gathering process. But I only trust them so far.

Jack, like Noam Chomsky (!!!) point out the ever present slant in reporting. Mostly it's lying by omission, and consistently reporting all news within a rigid framework of accepted notions (pro-government/business/status quo etc.)
Stories that challenge these rigid notions aren't reported at all, or are purposefully marginalized. As someone who recognizes that status quo is utterly unsustainable and immoral to boot, I find MSM to be something of a tool of the enemy. It's a soothing voice helping to keep the sheeple sleeping. We all need to wake up, and MSM will never broadcast the needed alarm signal.
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Re: Can the mainstream media still be trusted?

Postby max_power29 » Thu 22 Mar 2007, 05:16:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', ' ')this simple misconception is played over and over again and then they rewind the tape and play it again and again until your mind gets locked in -


I love that song. Its so true
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Re: Can the mainstream media still be trusted?

Postby max_power29 » Thu 22 Mar 2007, 05:20:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', '
')The one thing bad guys cannot stop or do anything about is peak oil. This is going to bite them in the back no matter what they do, and they will become incontinent, and finally loose control. Their knees will knock together and they will get pale. Peak oil is bigger than the bad guys.


I really really really hope beyond all hopes this is true. However, I think the bad guys will resort to nuking the population and then killing the survivors with bioweapons.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('purcatty', '
')You are going to see some serious desperate GW advertising as peak gets more obvious, GW is the red herring to distract from PEAK OIL. Anyone talking about GW is pushing the red herring agenda.


This is absolutely spot on.
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Re: Can the mainstream media still be trusted?

Postby hubbertspeak7777777 » Fri 30 Mar 2007, 22:21:55

"This just in, Anna Nicole Smith is still dead." - On Fox news every time I flip past it when channel surfing.

Hell no, the media sucks. I'll go with the voices in my head.
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Re: Can the mainstream media still be trusted?

Postby Magus » Fri 30 Mar 2007, 23:28:58

Actually, I think the voices in my head give me a more accurate representation of what's going in the world than the media. At least they're right more often...
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Sick of the MSM Lies!!!!

Postby idomar » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 16:28:49

Living in Budapest, I get 2 English language channels, CNN International and BBC International. I speak Hungarian pretty well but after a hard day I like to find out what is going on in the world without thinking!!

I turned on CNN today and saw their headline "IEA asks OPEC to increse production" Hmmmmm, i though, lets see what they have to say.

After 2 mins of footage of men on rigs and barrels of oil moving on conveyor belts and refering to OPEC with no real information, they say the following........"Higher prices are what some countries actually want, such as IRAN and VENEZUELA"...........WTF!!

Where was the Saudi comments that " oil in the $60 range is good for us" AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

I thought that CNN was not like Faux News and were at least a little, teeny tiny bit objective.

Is anyone else sick of the lies or is it just another thing that i need to come to terms with when dealing with PO?

Sorry for the rant but after coming to terms with this situation it is really starting to get on my nerves when i see such blatant 'kutyaszar'*on the tv.


* doggy poop in hungarian (but not in a nice way)
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Re: Sick of the Lies!!!!

Postby Bas » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 16:35:13

my guess is that the MSM and official institutions won't be able to deny the decline anymore pretty soon; right now is peak "lies". Of course I could be wrong....
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Re: Sick of the Lies!!!!

Postby Eli » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 16:49:41

Yup learn to deal with the lies and the misleading stories that are not worth squat. And if God for bid if they do say oil is in decline steady yourself for the follow on story about how great corn ethanol is.
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Re: Sick of the Lies!!!!

Postby Grifter » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 17:36:01

I still contend that peak oil will not be aired as a serious subject by the MSM.

We may start seeing the odd article, the odd documentary about peak oil theory but this will soon be followed by articles, documentaries about new fuels, terrorists, evildoers denying us the good stuff. Basically what Eli said.

The usual formula for balance in reporting, have someone tell the truth for 10 minutes then have someone tell lies for 10 minutes.

I may be a cynic, but big brother is on tv in the hotel bar, even more popular than eurosport :roll: :x
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Re: Sick of the Lies!!!!

Postby idomar » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 17:57:21

Thanks guys, i was thinking that it was just me.....I meant, we have had the trauma of wassername going to jail, the trauma of the space launch and the broken thingy on the ship, phew!! i am surprised we made it though the week at all.

I will just have to learn that it is the way that the world will deal with PO, "blame the communists" damn them for their wanting everyone to have a say in things? (i think i have lived in Bp fpr too long)

I saw these articles on 'financialsense.com' that actually mention PO, thought you might be interested......viva la revolucion!


http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/edito ... /0612.html

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/edito ... /0612.html


http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm
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Re: Sick of the Lies!!!!

Postby idomar » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 18:06:44

Thanks guys, i was thinking that it was just me.....I meant, we have had the trauma of wassername going to jail, the trauma of the space launch and the broken thingy on the ship, phew!! i am surprised we made it though the week at all.

I will just have to learn that it is the way that the world will deal with PO, "blame the communists" damn them for their wanting everyone to have a say in things? (i think i have lived in Bp fpr too long)

I saw these articles on 'financialsense.com' that actually mention PO, thought you might be interested......viva la revolucion!


http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/edito ... /0612.html

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/edito ... /0612.html


http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm
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Re: Sick of the Lies!!!!

Postby Bas » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 19:24:00

If the MSM(in their decreasing importance) won't take care of it, the internet will. (unless...)
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Re: Sick of the Lies!!!!

Postby ohanian » Tue 12 Jun 2007, 19:24:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Higher prices are what some countries actually want, such as IRAN and VENEZUELA"...........WTF!!


That's not a lie! That's the truth. Just like the statement below


Higher wages are what some workers actually want, such as Tom, Dick and Harry.


However you are right in that the statement is misleading because what IRAN and VENEZUELA wants is not what is causing high oil prices around the world.

What is causing high oil prices is tight supply in respect to demands.
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Refreshing article in mainstream media

Postby Micki » Sun 08 Jul 2007, 20:10:23

Short but refreshing article in The Age throws some punches around.

The Age

I put it in this section as it seems to be triggered by the recent admissions that Australia is in Iraq to secure oil supply, which is energy news.
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Re: Refreshing article in mainstream media

Postby Laurasia » Sun 08 Jul 2007, 21:31:19

I enjoyed that!

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Re: Refreshing article in mainstream media

Postby Harlequin » Mon 09 Jul 2007, 00:17:18

Hmmmm, I found that rather amusing.
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