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Re: What if?

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 18:53:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'I') was reading yours posts on the other site, and those guys are right, STAY OFF THE FUCKING DRUGS (or get on the right drugs). Your thoughts are not coherent. You sound exactly like my dad did before we got him admited to the psych ward for schizophrenia (paranoid variety)

Please dude, I am asking that you get the help you need. You are very intelligent, but until you can learn to control your thought patterns you are no use to anyone and will never be able to pass on any insights that will benefit the world.


Okay CH repeat after me ... Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Are you talking about this comment written by Shu found on page 4 of this thread WHAT IF Cynical Heretic is a Sheeple?
Also on that thread read what 'nomoredoubt' says about my posts.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Raphael is regarded very highly in my eyes. He is the main reason why I joined this forum - after reading through his many thought provoking posts.

Maybe we should start a Raphael appreciation society.


Cynical Heretic I suggest you go the last page of that thread where after I presented my evidence the hecklers who could only counter my evidence with claims of drug use disappeared ... :roll:

As many have these past 2 years ... :razz:

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I am sheeple, because I think your a little off?

The facts about you are.

Disorganized thought patterns (Nonsensical logic)
Conspiracy theories surrounding the cross and the Nazi Symbol
Dillusions of persecution
Unwillingness to face reality


My questions to you.

Do you own any guns?

Do you ever get the feeling that you should save people from others?

How many hours of sleep do you get a night?

How would you rate your daily energy level?

Does it ever feel like the lights are too bright or sounds to loud?

Do you ever contemplate suicide?

Do you ever replay or rehearse conversations out loud?

Do you have any involuntary limb movement?

Go ahead and answer those questions and then maybe we should spend some time in our own thread so that we can conversate in a more open and friendly manner. Remember I am only here to help you.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 19:10:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', '
')Go ahead and answer those questions and then maybe we should spend some time in our own thread so that we can conversate in a more open and friendly manner. Remember I am only here to help you.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 19:15:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', '
')Go ahead and answer those questions and then maybe we should spend some time in our own thread so that we can conversate in a more open and friendly manner. Remember I am only here to help you.
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I am actually being serious. I think he has some serious problems that he should seek treatment for. Maybe I havn't been approaching it correctly, but I think the people of this forum really should be pushing this guy towards a treatment facility.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 19:23:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', '
')Go ahead and answer those questions and then maybe we should spend some time in our own thread so that we can conversate in a more open and friendly manner. Remember I am only here to help you.
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I am actually being serious. I think he has some serious problems that he should seek treatment for. Maybe I havn't been approaching it correctly, but I think the people of this forum really should be pushing this guy towards a treatment facility.
He's got a regular gig as a firefighter, and even has a sense of humor. Sure the mythology obsession is kind of weird, but who knows? how do you think people will react to the coming crisis?
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Re: What if?

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 23:49:50

Well pms if you say he's sane I will take your word for it, but his writings are incoherent.

I think people will probably result to their more basic instincts. I am not to worried about it for the time. This decline is going to be slow and long drawn out. I will most likely be an old man. Maybe even as old as you. :P

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Re: What if?

Unread postby topcat » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 14:47:32

What if you had eyes on your fingertips?

Then you could put your finger in your mouth and see what you are saying, you could look and see what is on the top shelf too.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 15:34:55

What if the national anthem was the Hokey Pokey

What if we all jumped up and down at the same time?

What if the letter "e" had to b liminatd? Do you think w could do it?

What if gravity turned out to be consensus driven?

What if major naval operations became navel operations,and sailors collected the lint, and tossed it into the sea?

What if Cisco systems became Crisco systems. Would they lard it over us?
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Re: What if?

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 20:20:28

What if..... Aspartame made people smarter?

What if..... chocolate had only 10 calories and 0 grams of fat per ounce (would we still love it so much?)

What if..... the clocks stopped every afternoon for two hours (what would YOU do?)

What if..... your dog understands every word you say?

What if.....people were like animals and had no clue about how beautiful (or not) they are?
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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 20:27:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '
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What if.....people were like animals and had no clue about how beautiful (or not) they are?
I recall reading Conrad Lorenz and how he noticed that even fish have beauty levels and desirability ratings. I think it's built into the evolution thing and the strategy of sexual reproduction to increase potential variation and adaptability. so how about this:

What if we didn't know we were going to die?
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Re: What if?

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 21:11:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')hat if we didn't know we were going to die?


You'll have to help me out with that one, PMS. Wouldn't the question have to be, "What if we didn't die?" because the evidence would be all around us?
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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 21:22:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')hat if we didn't know we were going to die?


You'll have to help me out with that one, PMS. Wouldn't the question have to be, "What if we didn't die?" because the evidence would be all around us?
does a bird know it will one day die? I would guess they don't because they don't build tombs. Just a way of pointing out what I thought was obvious, but now you make me think about it: isn't the human race the only one that knows about mortality? I mean, as an idea, as something to build up illusions about to ward off the frightful implications? Maybe the cornucopians are ones who, though they recognize that they can't live forever, assume that humanity will.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 23:08:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')hat if we didn't know we were going to die?


You'll have to help me out with that one, PMS. Wouldn't the question have to be, "What if we didn't die?" because the evidence would be all around us?
does a bird know it will one day die? I would guess they don't because they don't build tombs. Just a way of pointing out what I thought was obvious, but now you make me think about it: isn't the human race the only one that knows about mortality? I mean, as an idea, as something to build up illusions about to ward off the frightful implications? Maybe the cornucopians are ones who, though they recognize that they can't live forever, assume that humanity will.


Right. I'm quite sure it's only humans who understand, from a relatively young age, that death will come and that what is beyond life is uncertain, in many cases feared, hard to imagine, etc. Animals seem to know death (they can smell it in another animal and will leave a dead member of the pack behind), and they seem to know when a pack member needs protection (for example, whales swimming on either side of a family member that's sick to keep it afloat). But no dread of death, just reaction to pain.

I mentioned on another thread that I had a dog years ago who I'm sure knew his death was near. He had been ill, and towards the end he would curl up in a ball, in the cold and snow, and, even though he could still walk, I'd have to go out and drag him back in the house.

Back to people - I wonder, if we didn't know that we would someday die, would we engage in more risk-taking behavior or less?
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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 23:18:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '
')Back to people - I wonder, if we didn't know that we would someday die, would we engage in more risk-taking behavior or less?
I think this what whole peakoil thing that we are worried about relates to. The idea of the peril of building a world on a finite resource was around already in the 1800s with the gold and silver mining towns that rose and fell on a finite resource. We've always known it is my point. The wider idea was put out of mind. "The future will deal with it" was the mindset. Well, the future is coming pretty soon, as far as I can tell.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 23:21:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'D')on't elephants build graveyards? Doesn't that imply they understand something about death? Hmm...
do they? really? that's fascinating, if you could link to it, I'd love to read it. Elephants are known for their intelligence.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby Daculling » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 23:22:02

This animal not only knows about death but about the virtue of patience as well...

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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 23:40:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', 'T')his animal not only knows about death but about the virtue of patience as well...

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that's lame. The bird is designed by evolution to eat dead. So are fungi. My point stands.
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Re: What if?

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 23:46:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', '
')Back to people - I wonder, if we didn't know that we would someday die, would we engage in more risk-taking behavior or less?
I think this what whole peakoil thing that we are worried about relates to. The idea of the peril of building a world on a finite resource was around already in the 1800s with the gold and silver mining towns that rose and fell on a finite resource. We've always known it is my point. The wider idea was put out of mind. "The future will deal with it" was the mindset. Well, the future is coming pretty soon, as far as I can tell.


When First Nations tribes could see that their resources were starting to run low, they picked up their villages and moved to another area rich in resources, with fertile soil. We've become so concentrated in numbers that we can't do that, or not very easily, anyway. I think that as we moved into the thick of plentiful oil and built all of our infrastructure with it, we just gave up all personal responsibility with regards to obtaining and using resources. Somehow, we believed that everything we needed would be found and provided for us, with no worries about limits. As long as we had the money, we got the goods!

What if we could arrange ourselves in small, self-sufficient communities and start over?
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Re: What if?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 23:52:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', ' ')
What if we could arrange ourselves in small, self-sufficient communities and start over?
that would be the best outcome. I've been pondering this situation for years. What about all the dying people?
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