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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby jdmartin » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 17:56:16

Personally, I'd like to see this thread move to the Hall of Flames so we can really let loose...
After fueling up their cars, Twyman says they bowed their heads and asked God for cheaper gas.There was no immediate answer, but he says other motorists joined in and the service station owner didn't run them off.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby Last_Laff » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 18:55:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', 'P')ersonally, I'd like to see this thread move to the Hall of Flames so we can really let loose...

Please dont. For the sake of Global Warming... oil rocks has polluted more than he can.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby oil_rocks » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 20:06:04

That's fine if you want to hold on to your theory of middle-east dictators stockpiling their oil profits in switz bank accounts awaiting the inevidable overthrow by a foreign government/corporation, but just don't put the shah out as proof that your theory is correct.

Because A) he wasn't overthrown by a foreign governement/corp, and B) he clearly did not end up having tons of loot stored away in switz bank accounts.

I'm just trying to help you make more valid points, clueless. if you want to put forward an example of a dictator who was overthrown and then lived the life of luxery, you could always point to... ummm... ah, hmm, well i guess there havn't been any after all. but i'm sure your theory is correct anyways. It sounds like something evil oil companies would be a part of. who really needs evidence anyways when something is so obvious?? afterall, all of us peak oil guys agree on it, so it must be true!
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby da23 » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 20:27:47

keep up the good work spec :roll:
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby clueless » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 22:27:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ecause A) he wasn't overthrown by a foreign governement/corp,


Once again dude you can't even follow your own argument. I said in an earlier post they could either be overthrown by poverty stricken militant residents as the Shah was here is my quote:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Shah was overthrown by the Iranian people, forced to Flea and was a US installed dictator. I said nothing about him being rich...Read the book I told you about. Where are all these dictators putting their money ?


or an invasion (like Sadaam Hussien) was.

Oil_Rocks - I have two questions I would like you to answer :

What was the determing factor in :

1. The Japanse bombing of Pearl Harbor

and

2. The collapse of the USSR.


How many times have you been nailed for not even remembering what you or others posted on this board. You don't even know what you believe. With all the mistakes you have made in just the last several days how can you expect any readers to take you seriously.

In all reality you are one of the peakoil.com's biggest advocates.
Feel free to keep on posting.

:-D

And my "theory" about middle east dictators being prepared to be overthrown is nothing new, do your homework and come back and we'll talk about it.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby jdmartin » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 23:28:01

Silence. That's what I thought. When you can't back up your bullshit with facts, you simply pretend that the post wasn't made. What a joke.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby MonteQuest » Thu 15 Feb 2007, 23:45:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'A')nd clueless, I understand where you get your ideas from, but you simply don't understand the basics of supply & demand economics. Have you ever wondered why diamonds are not in a shortage even though everyone loves them and there are relatively few of them in the ground?


Sure, they are not a necessity of life. By your thinking, if the price of food, water, and air was high enough, people would stop eating, drinking and breathing.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby MonteQuest » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 00:01:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', ' ')once again, i am not asserting that oil will last forever. I am merely questioning whether the current peak oil crisis has taken into account all of the variables. and clearly it has not.


I think you need to read some of my threads. I have addressed each and every one of these variables at length, and so have many others on this board.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby rsch20 » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 00:09:39

I feel hate, disgust, fear and pity, for the perversion of rationality and corruption of intelligence that oil_rocks represents.

If this is the caliber of 'debunker' that is left, then the writing is on the wall.

oil_rocks, you support what you would tear down, your reasoning and rhetoric is so inept as to be just flaw stacked upon flaw, you are like a belligerent drunk that doesn't even realize he is lying on the floor, let alone that he lost the fight a good while ago.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby oil_rocks » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 04:11:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', '[')b]Provide a link backing up those statements. Otherwise you're nothing but a loud-mouthed jackass who likes to hear himself speak.


jdmartin, why do u keep trying to argue this point? I am right about this and you are wrong. its that simple. move on to an argument u have an actual chance of winning.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he Shah's 19-month exile as a pathetic search for refuge and for medical treatment by a homeless man who was unable to the very end to understand what had gone wrong

http://www.amazon.com/Shahs-Last-Ride-F ... 0671552317

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'r')esulted in the Shah leaving the country in disgrace on January 16, 1979

http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobsiran.html

exactly what condition do you believe he was in after his exile? a wealthy hero? please.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'W')hat was the determing factor in :

1. The Japanse bombing of Pearl Harbor

and

2. The collapse of the USSR.


please, you are throwing me softballs here, but i have no idea what they have to do with peak oil.

The Japanese bombed pearl harbor because they were in the process of taking over the entire pacific rim as part of their Imperial Empire and saw the USA as their only viable obstacle. It was a military strategy and a brilliant one. And if the US government was being run by commie pacifists it would have worked too.

The USSR collapsed because communism as a form of government is an abject total failure and will always lead to a total collapse. Just like it has every where its been tried. The fall was sped up by the brilliant arms race that Reagon initiated that bled their economy to death as they tried to keep up.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby oil_rocks » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 04:47:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'S')oiled_Jocks and jdrecktown (over on "Simmons - "We have hit Peak Oil") are both ReserveGrowthDroolz. I feel the MO


is he speaking english? can someone translate this for me? I have no clue what he just said.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby Chuckmak » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 06:18:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'W')hat was the determing factor in :

1. The Japanse bombing of Pearl Harbor

and

2. The collapse of the USSR.


please, you are throwing me softballs here, but i have no idea what they have to do with peak oil.

The Japanese bombed pearl harbor because they were in the process of taking over the entire pacific rim as part of their Imperial Empire and saw the USA as their only viable obstacle. It was a military strategy and a brilliant one. And if the US government was being run by commie pacifists it would have worked too.

The USSR collapsed because communism as a form of government is an abject total failure and will always lead to a total collapse. Just like it has every where its been tried. The fall was sped up by the brilliant arms race that Reagon initiated that bled their economy to death as they tried to keep up.

Hope that helps.


You didn't even answer these two questions correctly.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby clueless » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 11:57:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Japanese bombed pearl harbor because they were in the process of taking over the entire pacific rim as part of their Imperial Empire and saw the USA as their only viable obstacle. It was a military strategy and a brilliant one. And if the US government was being run by commie pacifists it would have worked too.

The USSR collapsed because communism as a form of government is an abject total failure and will always lead to a total collapse. Just like it has every where its been tried. The fall was sped up by the brilliant arms race that Reagon initiated that bled their economy to death as they tried to keep up.


Yes Oil_Rocks you can read the press headlines and and base your opinions on those But I am asking you for the fundamental reasons... Both of these occurrences are for and from oil.

Japan was intent on invading China and Indochina and taking over the pacific rim to lock down oil supplies at because they had none of their own, and imported nearly all of their oil and steel from the United States.

The USSR collapsed due to a collapse of oil prices from the Saudis oversupplying the market, becasue they generated most of their revenues from oil and arms sales.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'b')rilliant arms race that Reagon initiated


Brilliant ? Oh Really ? The USSR was a threat ? Why ? Oh and I'll bet you think the US dumping nukes on innocent civilians was a samaritan act ? Reagan was brilliant ? Just wait until Reagan and Bush's "Brilliant Acts" come home to roost and we experience double digit inflation for 5 years, let's see how brilliant you think he is then. USSR a threat, give me a break...I work in the "Arms" business for 15 years- There is not a more corrupt batch of crooks on the planet, they make the Saudi Royal family look like Mother Theresa. You even debink your own arguments, on one hand you say: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')SSR collapsed because communism as a form of government is an abject total failure


And on the other hand you say they are a Threat ? Which is it Oil_Rocks ? Was the USSR an abject failure or a threat ? You cannot have one without the other, Military hegenomy requires economic hegemony, period not negotiable. Once again you have proven yourself wrong.

I am starting to understand what we have here - A genunie Neocon (but he probable doesn't even know what that is or if he is one ).


I ask those questions to try to get you to consider that oil is the most vital resource on the planet and you fail to realize that. DOyou think it is any coincidence that every oil exproting nation is also impoverished ? I'll bet you think that is just a bad luck of the draw, right ? How much longer do you think the Saudi People are going to tolerate 30% unemployment while the royal family tucks away billions (OK I won't say Swiss Bak accounts) under their mattresses ? You are a fool - Everybody that lives over there understands that, but you fail to realize it .

You gain your knowledge from newspaper headlines and textbooks it seems.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby clueless » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 12:13:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Japanese bombed pearl harbor because they were in the process of taking over the entire pacific rim as part of their Imperial Empire and saw the USA as their only viable obstacle. It was a military strategy and a brilliant one. And if the US government was being run by commie pacifists it would have worked too.


I will also bet you believe the entire Japanese attack fleet of how many ships ? Just snuck up on Pearl Harbor in total stealth. Give me a break.

You're a Reagan/Bush guy (as I was once) no wonder you make no sense.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby Comp_Lex » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 12:14:06

Oil_rocks, when are you going to answer my questions?
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby jdmartin » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 12:24:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', '[')b]Provide a link backing up those statements. Otherwise you're nothing but a loud-mouthed jackass who likes to hear himself speak.


jdmartin, why do u keep trying to argue this point? I am right about this and you are wrong. its that simple. move on to an argument u have an actual chance of winning.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he Shah's 19-month exile as a pathetic search for refuge and for medical treatment by a homeless man who was unable to the very end to understand what had gone wrong

http://www.amazon.com/Shahs-Last-Ride-F ... 0671552317

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'r')esulted in the Shah leaving the country in disgrace on January 16, 1979

http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobsiran.html

exactly what condition do you believe he was in after his exile? a wealthy hero? please.



Listen, asshole, crawl back under your rock. You don't have a damn idea what in the hell you're talking about. You provide a one line quote from an Amazon book (did you read that book? I didn't think so), that says nothing about being penniless. Quit insulting everyone's intelligence, jackass.
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Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

Unread postby oil_rocks » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 13:59:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jdmartin', ' ')You don't have a damn idea what in the hell you're talking about. You provide a one line quote from an Amazon book (did you read that book? I didn't think so), that says nothing about being penniless. Quit insulting everyone's intelligence, jackass.


jdmartin, what exactly is it that you believe?? would you clearly state your belief and provide a link or 2 supporting your belief? instead of just making dumb comments and disagreeing with whatever I post. All i said was that the shah of iran ended his life a) in disgrace, b) homeless and c) penniless. Its clearly documented in every historical account of the period. maybe the exact word "penniless" does not show up, but its clear from the reading that he did not leave a wealthy, healthy hero. This is basic, basic stuff man. come on!


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Comp_Lex', 'O')il_rocks, when are you going to answer my questions?


Sorry, what was your question? I got sidetracked talking about Japan and russia.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'W')hich is it Oil_Rocks ? Was the USSR an abject failure or a threat ? You cannot have one without the other


Umm, can't they both be true? If a thief breaks into your house, could you not describe him both as a failure and a threat? A failure at his own life and a threat to yours? That's really not a strong arguement you are trying to make, clueless.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') called you a phoney and accused you of rejoining this group after having been banned. am I correct?


Listen pal, I told you I have never posted under any other name. why would I? And why would i get banned for simply giving a differant point of view? Unlike other people on here I am not abusive or obscene. But then again, to the left, a person who doesn't hold their beliefs is the worst kind of criminal in the world, so i guess i can see why people like me have been banned in the past.
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