[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sirrom', 'a')re any of you going to become vegetarian after this article:

http://www.peakoil.com/article23123.html

[smallpoxgirl]

Yup yup. Far as I can see the inevitable environmental result of vegetarianism is a larger food supply leading to more hominids. IMHO, there are way too many hominids already. I live in Montana, which as my own observation, probably has more former-vegans than anywhere in the US. We Montanan's like our wildlife. We like to watch it roaming the woods, and we also like it marinated and slow roasted.

[morph]

i'll be an ingorant savage thanks

[seldom_seen]

no, I'm motivated by reason, not liberal guilt trips. These are the same people who put "BIODIESEL -- No War Required" bumper stickers on their new prius.

They would happily feed all the grain to their machines, but not to the cow or the pig. Emotion fueled by igonorance.

[IanC]

With most people on this site constantly railing against the "sheeple" who don't "get it" and the relative incapability of our society at large to prepare for our coming apocolypse, I find it disturbing how blithely disregarded the notion of reducing meat consumption appears to be.

This is the quintessential no-brainer, people. Don't go completely Granola, Vegan, or Veg - just reduce how much meat you eat. Take a small step and make your next spaghetti sauce without meat. Just once. BAM! You've made a positive change.

I work as a PA in an emergency room and spend a lot of time taking care of people with very deep-seeded lifestyle issues which are slowly killing them (not the least of which is obesity, coming from eating too much ____). I never tell them to make immediate, drastic changes, but set an achievable goal of reduction of whatever healthy habit they happen to have. I challenge all of you nay-sayers to put your Peak Oil preparation where your mouth is and eat a LITTLE LESS meat. This is probably easier than stockpiling ammo learning how to distill your own gin.

In our house, we are about 90% vegetarian. Exceptions are made for holidays, eating at other people's houses, going to a special dinner, etc. The money saved allows us to buy our dairy products from Noris Dairy, an organic local dairy that delivers to our house.

>clip clop< stepping off my soapbox

-IanC

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'n')o, I'm motivated by reason, not liberal guilt trips. These are the same people who put "BIODIESEL -- No War Required" bumper stickers on their new prius.

They would happily feed all the grain to their machines, but not to the cow or the pig. Emotion fueled by igonorance.

[Aaron]

I don't think he understands... that's what food eats.

[Cobra_Strike]

I will never become a vegetarian...HOWEVER, I might at some points not be eating meat if I can't afford it. I agree with Aaron, vegetables are what food eats.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cobra_Strike', 'v')egetables are what food eats.

[Grifter]

ignorant savage indeed

Screw you hard rock head

[master_rb]

i love meat, without meat i lose half of my life, at least it seems to me like that

i voted for ignoring of course

[Snowstorm]

The emissions from animals are not the same as from fossil fuel burning, fossil fuel burning is adding to the system what was locked up underground and unavailable. Methane emissions from animals have been going on since long before we came along, it may not have been domestic animals but for millions of years there have been ungulates, and thus methane emissions. Factory farming is cruel and unsustainable, as all industrial farming is unsustainable, but meat eating is a natural part of the diet of humanity. Although traditional cultures had a wide variety of diets, none have been vegan and there's a good reason for it, some people do fine as vegans but considering how many ex vegans I see who had health problems as vegans it's pretty clear it's not the natural human diet. See the Weston Price foundation, www.westonaprice.org for more on the subject.

[Aaron]

I can't believe nobody said it yet...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m a level 5 Vegan... I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

[HamRadioRocks]

I'm not giving up meat. I remember times in college when the meat served for dinner was inedible. Unless I went out to eat or ordered pizza, I had a hollow feeling in my stomach and went to bed hungry.

Why do I have to be the one who gives up meat? I'm 6 feet tall and 145 pounds, which puts my Body Mass Index in the bottom 10% compared to other men of my age. I have a 30-inch waist in a world where the norm is more like 40 inches. If anyone should be required to give up meat, it should be the overweight people out there. And how about clamping down on the people who eat those 72-ounce steaks and all the fixings in one hour in Amarillo, Texas? A 72-ounce steak should be enough to fill 5-6 people.

I think the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies are part of the vegetarian agenda. I saw the remake and the prequel. They so grossed me out that I couldn't eat red meat for a few days, and I even thought about becoming vegetarian.

So how about this:
1. The steakhouses in Amarillo, Texas cease all those 72-ounce-steak programs and serve only normal-sized meals.
2. All obese people go vegetarian.
3. All overweight people limit their meat intake to a very modest level.
4. Let the rest of us eat as much meat as we want.

[careinke]

Besides giving me meat:

My pigs clear the land, turn the soil and compost better and quicker than any compost pile.

My chicken provide pest control, prepare the garden spot and fertilize it just prior to planting. In addition, I get eggs.

Both are integral parts of the homestead.

Cliff (Start a revolution, grow a garden)

[DefiledEngine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m a level 5 Vegan... I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

[Cobra_Strike]

Worse then the loss of red meat...the loss of fish, I would not want to avoid eating pacific salmon. Damn oceans getting poisoned >_< really...meat is good for you if its clean, and better if you know local farmers. Its possible to find non-feedlot farmed beef/pork/chicken, sure it costs more...but vote with your wallets.

[MrBill]

I am doing my bit to save the planet this morning by NOT eating bacon and eggs for breakfast. I am eating cheese cake instead. Oops. Eggs and dairy. Okay, so guilty as charged. I am an ignorant savage.

[nocar]

I am cutting down on meat, taking small portions, but I can not imagine not eating any meat, cheese, eggs. I also believ that some veggies, those that have travelled far or are grown in a green house with heating and artificial light are just as bad for the environment, though. So tomatoes and salads we do nto buy much in winter (Scandinavia).

I grow my own tomatoes and salad in summer - those are tasty!

And I do not own a car, but go by bicycle and public transport. So I believe I am entitled to some meat. Of course I prefer the lamb and hens we buy from a local organic farm. Let those that drive cars go vegetarian!

nocar

[frankthetank]

I'd rather eat a Papaya then a steak (don't like red meat much). I will not give up fish/and on occasion (rare) pork roast (crock pot). Other then that its all meatless for me. I think chickens are for the eggs, the meat is gross...turkey is ok on thanksgiving. I've had buffalo, and that was good (burgers). You couldn't pay me to eat a Mcdons burger...