[k_semler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', ' ') Remind her that eggs, cheese, milk, ice cream, sour cream, and cottage cheese are all byproducts from animals, and as a vegetarian, it is against her moral standards.:

[k_semler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')o me, a mushroom is a mushroom

[savethehumans]

Uh, remember the name of this forum?

In that child's lifetime, she will come to be grateful for ANY healthy, decent food she can get! In the meantime, there are beans that have the protein that meat does. Nothing WRONG with being Vegan. And lots of Vegans make exceptions for dairy products--especially organic ones. (Oh, and daily multi-vitamins, too, mom!)

Don't worry--let her find her own way on this particular issue!

[WhistleWind]

What is it with you Americans and this addiction to meat ?

Most of India has been vegetarian for a thousand years, and there
doesn't seem to be a shortage of them

I've been veggie for ten years now, and have never been healthier.
True, I do eat a few eggs now and then, which is excluded from
the Indian definition of veggie.

It makes eating out a lot easier, most restaurants only have one or
two veggie options, so I don't have to waste hours reading the menu

Some of my friends bring up their kids on a vegan diet. They are so
thin - but they are far healthier than most of the lard buckets that are
too heavy to walk to school. I have just adopted two children, and
although I haven't removed meat entirely from their diet yet, the
two year old loves vegetables and fruit and meat substitutes, and
certainly wouldn't miss dead animal.

There are lots of reasons to be veggie, but the best is the taste of the
food

[Riverside]

Don't feel bad, my 7 yo daughter pulls the same thing on me every once in a while. She doesn't want to eat any "cute" animals. I try and fix her special meals, and it lasts about a week before she decides she wants meat again. Repeat again the next month.

Carla

[crude_intentions]

I was a semi-vegiterian and a weightlifter. Used mostly Soy and Whey protein powders during the week, would eat veggies, and whole wheat bread and brown rice. On the weekends I'd treat myself to the good stuff, steak, pizza, ect. Never felt better in my whole life.

The Best Protein Powder out thier if your looking is this stuff.

http://www.affordablesupplements.com/wh ... ci_fit.asp , Mix it up with some Soy Milk it's great, Coconut cream pie is my favorite BTW.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

The problem with soy and whey protein is that they are mixed with a good dose of MSG thanks to modern food processors.

Spec-Op is there a reason behind why she wants to do the vegetarian thing? All you have to do is give her a handful of nuts instead of meat. She can have everything else you eat for dinner etc. It can be easy for you too.

Most kids who do this (in my experience) stay vegetarian for a couple of years. There is nothing wrong with it and she will probably outgrow it after a while. but more importantly, it won't hurt her as long as she gets some kind of substitute to provide amino acids (like nuts or beans etc)

As parents I know how important it is for us to pick our battles, is this one really that important?

[gary_malcolm]

Got to support the factory farm death and disease meal factories, so it's important to start brain washing the innocent minds early.

Besides, it takes a lot of hard work to beat the kindness and humanity out of childern. Kids naturally love critters and when they realize that not only are they eating Bambi but Mommy and Daddy are missing that piece of their soul that used to have compassion for fellow creatures they sometimes rebel against the yoke of conformative culture by trying to be vegetarian.

This instictive kindness must be crushed at all costs!

So go at it, you bunch of lazy, mind-numbed, artery-clogged bed-pressers, eat up, get your kids to eat up.

Here's to health and vitality.

Gary

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gary_malcolm', 'G')ot to support the factory farm death and disease meal factories, so it's important to start brain washing the innocent minds early.

Besides, it takes a lot of hard work to beat the kindness and humanity out of childern. Kids naturally love critters and when they realize that not only are they eating Bambi but Mommy and Daddy are missing that piece of their soul that used to have compassion for fellow creatures they sometimes rebel against the yoke of conformative culture by trying to be vegetarian.

This instictive kindness must be crushed at all costs!

So go at it, you bunch of lazy, mind-numbed, artery-clogged bed-pressers, eat up, get your kids to eat up.

Here's to health and vitality.

Gary

[holmes]

we must teach the hardcore animal lovers that slaugthering herbivores is needed. They have to be culled. Do you like green forests? undergrowth that nurtures songbirds? Gives the little critters that eagles and other carnivores need to survive? well then allow cute bambi to browse all the undergrowth like wahts happening in many Hunt free areas and you get extinction. Now the buffalo and the grass land browsers are anaother story. More are needed to bring back the grassland ecosystems which is vital for global weather stablity and soil retention. But irresponsible humans need to be culled unfortunatley. But christ pig is made to be eaten and elk and moose need to grilled. But we have fucked up teaching ecology. It need sto be front and center starting in fucking pre school. Get wise bb eyes. . BACON!

[FatherOfTwo]

Tofu can be fantastic. It's also cheap.
Tofu when not prepared properly can also be incredibly bland, even gross. But there are tons of great tofu recipe books out there.
I try to eat tofu at least once a week. I also indulge in many meat products, and usually feel guilty about the energy needed to produce them... but yummmm

[johnmarkos]

IIRC, processed veggie products require even more energy to produce than meat. If you really want to eat sustainably, you have to eat unprocessed stuff (unless it's Quorn, maybe). That means you're soaking beans for protein, eating lots of nuts, and spending hours preparing your veggies. You can't just grab some Boca burgers from the freezer section and call your diet sustainable.

Sustainable, vegan food preparation is a full time job. Since I have a full time job already, I'm still an omnivore. However, I think it's a good idea to eat as sustainably as possible. Health improves with more diverse vegetable sources, too.

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FatherOfTwo', 'T')ofu can be fantastic. It's also cheap.
Tofu when not prepared properly can also be incredibly bland, even gross. But there are tons of great tofu recipe books out there.
I try to eat tofu at least once a week. I also indulge in many meat products, and usually feel guilty about the energy needed to produce them... but yummmm

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('johnmarkos', 'I')IRC, processed veggie products require even more energy to produce than meat. If you really want to eat sustainably, you have to eat unprocessed stuff (unless it's Quorn, maybe). That means you're soaking beans for protein, eating lots of nuts, and spending hours preparing your veggies. You can't just grab some Boca burgers from the freezer section and call your diet sustainable.

Sustainable, vegan food preparation is a full time job. Since I have a full time job already, I'm still an omnivore. However, I think it's a good idea to eat as sustainably as possible. Health improves with more diverse vegetable sources, too.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'T')he problem with soy and whey protein is that they are mixed with a good dose of MSG thanks to modern food processors.

Spec-Op is there a reason behind why she wants to do the vegetarian thing? All you have to do is give her a handful of nuts instead of meat. She can have everything else you eat for dinner etc. It can be easy for you too.

Most kids who do this (in my experience) stay vegetarian for a couple of years. There is nothing wrong with it and she will probably outgrow it after a while. but more importantly, it won't hurt her as long as she gets some kind of substitute to provide amino acids (like nuts or beans etc)

As parents I know how important it is for us to pick our battles, is this one really that important?

[FatherOfTwo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('johnmarkos', 'I')IRC, processed veggie products require even more energy to produce than meat.

[johnmarkos]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FatherOfTwo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('johnmarkos', 'I')IRC, processed veggie products require even more energy to produce than meat.

[oowolf]

Vitamin B-12 (cobalamin) is the nutrient generally lacking in a vegetarian diet. Insects are a good source of B-12, in fact, insects/insect parts are the main sources of B-12 in poor countries where meat is scarce.

[The_Virginian]

a bible riddle that is also a case study on Vegans:

Shadrach Meshach Abednego.

They lived as captives in_____.

They ate _____ for protien.

Hint, they are related distantly to one or more "Beastie Boys", though the song of that title by the mentioned " (C)Rappers" is not what they would condone.


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Now if you want my advice, you are making this too easy on her.

make her prepare her own meat, get their used to blood and animal flesh. then take it to the next stage by having her actualy slaughter (or at least help dress) an animal.

The first animal is always the hardest.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenUltimatemanStanding', 'M')y kids all wanted to become vegitarians after seeing the movie 'Babe' about the cute little talking piglet. The smell of sizzling bacon soon 'cured' them of it.