[KiddieKorral]

Got back from a DFA meeting in the middle of the speech. I had to go pray, so I didn't catch the majority of it. Even so, I think my BS detector is fried from the overload.

[Aaron]

Mentioned nuclear (Bush nucular) and alternatives...

Blasted Iran & Syria

[JoeW]

I am about as anti-Bush as they come, but the Social Security change is intriguing to me. I am 29 yrs old, and I would like to think that the money I have been paying in will somehow come back to me. 33% is a reasonable amount to take out of regular social security contributions and place into a personal account where I can do whatever I want with it. In fact, I already have a similar setup for my pension contributions, where 33% of those contributions instead go to my 401k plan where I control the funds.
The problem that I have with both of these things (SS personal accts & 401k plan) is that in all likelihood, you will have a limited number of options as to what you can do with you investment. I like IRA's because you can put the money anywhere. I think my 401k plan has about 12 funds from which to choose. I understand that when you leave a company, you generally roll over the 401k into an IRA. I wonder if you can do this while you continue to work for a company...?

Other than that, I was impressed that Bush mentioned energy. There are only so many issues to be discussed in the address, and energy was one of them. It is a start.
Bush is still an elitist buffoon, of course, but I knew that before I tuned in last night.

JoeW

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Today is Groundhog Day and the State of the Union Address. As Air America Radio pointed out, it is an ironic juxtaposition: one involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to a creature of little intelligence for prognostication and the other involves a groundhog."

[Carlhole]

State-of-theUnion Preview - Bush Impresssion

Found the link on Crooks and Liars

[Denny]

I saw the part of the SOTU address on the news where Bush went on about reducing energy dependency and the need for new alternative energy development, such as swithgrass. I have heard most of it before.

But, I did not see any concrete action plan to effect change.

What is up with that? Why not lay out some major incentives for alternative energy?

The U.S. put the first man on the moon, and its the msot competent nation on earth to be leading the new world of alternative energy, but it has to get its plan together. I still don't see it.

For you Americans out there, what is happening right now to get America first on the alternative energy bandwagon?

[coyote]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'F')or you Americans out there, what is happening right now to get America first on the alternative energy bandwagon?

[Colorado-Valley]

My local newspaper said Bush was starting to sound like one of those "environmentalist wackos" for even talking about such things.

We're toast ...

[mekrob]

I thought he did mention a couple billion for research. Probably going to oil companies though.

[KrellEnergySource]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'I') saw the part of the SOTU address on the news where Bush went on about reducing energy dependency and the need for new alternative energy development, such as swithgrass. I have heard most of it before.

But, I did not see any concrete action plan to effect change.

What is up with that? Why not lay out some major incentives for alternative energy?

[0mar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KrellEnergySource', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'I') saw the part of the SOTU address on the news where Bush went on about reducing energy dependency and the need for new alternative energy development, such as swithgrass. I have heard most of it before.

But, I did not see any concrete action plan to effect change.

What is up with that? Why not lay out some major incentives for alternative energy?

[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'D')emocrats and Republicans are identical, not two different camps. If the Dems were in office, we'd have the same policies, same rhetoric, just phrased differently. American politics is a sharade to keep the public placated.

[coyote]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'D')emocrats and Republicans are identical, not two different camps. If the Dems were in office, we'd have the same policies, same rhetoric, just phrased differently. American politics is a sharade to keep the public placated.

[mekrob]

PDF of the bullet points
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Energy: President Bush will ask Congress and America's scientists, farmers, industry leaders, and entrepreneurs to join
him in pursuing the goal of reducing U.S. gasoline usage by 20 percent in the next ten years – Twenty in Ten.

Spending Reform: President Bush will discuss three major reforms to spend taxpayer dollars wisely: balancing the
budget through pro-growth policies and spending restraint, enacting common-sense reforms to help prevent billions of
taxpayer dollars from being spent on unnecessary earmarks, and reforming entitlement programs.

Immigration: President Bush will call on Congress to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill that will secure our
borders, enhance interior and worksite enforcement, create a temporary worker program, resolve – without animosity and
without amnesty – the status of illegal immigrants already here, and promote assimilation into our society.

War On Terror/Iraq: The challenge playing out across the broader Middle East is more than a military conflict – it is the
decisive ideological struggle of our time. For the safety of our people, America must succeed in Iraq, and the President
believes his new Iraq plan is the best way to succeed. Tonight, the President will propose to establish a special advisory
council on the War on Terror made up of leaders in Congress from both political parties.

Strengthening Our Military: Tonight, President Bush will ask Congress for authority to increase the overall strength of
our active Army and the Marine Corps by 92,000 Soldiers and Marines in the next five years.

[Daculling]

without animosity and without amnesty – the status of illegal immigrants already here

Unless you amnesty them they will have animosity. If you amnesty them the American people will have the animosity... good luck with that georgie.

I'm convince PO will work this out one way or another before politics does.

[NEOPO]

Peak oil is in this pudding:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ar On Terror/Iraq: The challenge playing out across the broader Middle East is more than a military conflict – it is the
decisive ideological struggle of our time. For the safety of our people, America must succeed in Iraq, and the President
believes his new Iraq plan is the best way to succeed. Tonight, the President will propose to establish a special advisory
council on the War on Terror made up of leaders in Congress from both political parties.

[theragtopguy]

Special advisory council? For what? So he can ignore their recommendations the way he did the other Iraq Study Group?

The best thing he could do tonight is resign. Along with that other crook Cheyney.

I hope the Democrats impeach them both and put them on trial as enemies of the state.

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theragtopguy', 'S')pecial advisory council? For what? So he can ignore their recommendations the way he did the other Iraq Study Group?

The best thing he could do tonight is resign. Along with that other crook Cheyney.

I hope the Democrats impeach them both and put them on trial as enemies of the state.

[WildRose]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'P')eak oil is in this pudding:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ar On Terror/Iraq: The challenge playing out across the broader Middle East is more than a military conflict – it is the
decisive ideological struggle of our time. For the safety of our people, America must succeed in Iraq, and the President
believes his new Iraq plan is the best way to succeed. Tonight, the President will propose to establish a special advisory
council on the War on Terror made up of leaders in Congress from both political parties.

[theragtopguy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theragtopguy', 'S')pecial advisory council? For what? So he can ignore their recommendations the way he did the other Iraq Study Group?

The best thing he could do tonight is resign. Along with that other crook Cheyney.

I hope the Democrats impeach them both and put them on trial as enemies of the state.