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Why you know about peak oil?

Postby Aaron » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 11:48:33

Way back in good ole 2004, America was enchanted with Adam Sandler's 50 first dates, Usher sold more albums that anybody else, & peak oil began it's journey to global attention.

And so, for your edification, here's the MASSIVE www.fark.com thread that started it all...

Funny ole world when it's Fark that launches the popular peak oil movement.

Thanks Drew...

Your dog wants oil.

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comment ... ink=828707
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The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby TITAN » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 12:32:38

Reading that thread makes me want dieoff oh so badly...
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby Daculling » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 13:26:55

Fark is how I got here. Thanks alot Fark....
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby AirlinePilot » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 13:55:42

When Crude prices started climbing above 45 or so I got interested in why. I really am an airline pilot (contrary to what a few folks on here think :) ) and it WILL affect my carreer so I got educated. I have learned much about oil exploration and production along with what moves the markets.

Thats how I came to know about the wonderful theory of peak oil.
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby NEOPO » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 14:03:48

Always wanted to buy the farm and build a homestead and while contemplating various concepts the earthship concept had its way with us.

While searching through alt building pages we stumbled across an intentional community link which led us to a hippy forum where some godamn hippy 8) said something like "with the coming of peak oil we might want to get busy building"...........and thus the oddysey began.....
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby gego » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 14:06:30

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Thats how I came to know about the wonderful theory of peak oil.


Wonderful?? Now, I say this is the sign of a positive personality, finding wonder in the worst. There is beauty if most everything, if you can just find it.
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby Tanada » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 15:30:16

Actually I found this site while researching an article I wrote for the Grantville Gazzette Volume 4. After I got the article all polliched up and accepted I came back and actually dug through the mountain of straw to find those few jewel encrusted needles. Been here on and off every since ;) Bought and read Twilight in the Desert and The View From Hubberts Peak because of this site.

Its not so much a case of learning for me, most of this stuff I 'learned' back in 1982, then when prices crashed in 1986 and stayed down I went back to sleep as if it were all just a bad dream.
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby Aaron » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 18:15:19

Yeah, but it was this Fark thread linked to Savinars website which created the first wave of popular attention.

Made Matt Savinar a Peak Oil Somebody
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby caliginousface » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 19:09:38

A week or two before beginning at an Aeronautical university, I googled "the end of oil" and LATOC came up.
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby NEOPO » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 19:14:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'Y')eah, but it was this Fark thread linked to Savinars website which created the first wave of popular attention.

Made Matt Savinar a Peak Oil Somebody

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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby cynicalheretic » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 19:50:04

I googled oil supplies about two 1/2 years ago and came across a site discussing peak oil. I was interested then did a search for Peak Oil forum and here I am
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby Daculling » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 20:13:32

I can still find the thread that changed many of my assumptions about the future. Thanks andhow... who ever the hell you are.


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2005-03-16 04:06:09 PM andhow


"While some folks desperately cling to the belief that oil is a renewable resource, others hold on to the equally delusional idea that tapping the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve will solve, or at least delay, this crisis. While drilling for oil in ANWR will certainly make a lot of money for the companies doing the drilling, it won't do much to help the overall situation for three reasons:

1. According of the Department of Energy, drilling in ANWR will only
lower oil prices by less than fifty cents;

2. ANWR contains 10 billion barrels of oil - or about the amount the US
consumes in a little more than a year.

3. As with all oil projects, ANWR will take about 10 years to come
online. Once it does, its production will peak at 875,000 barrels per
day - but not till the year 2025. By then the US is projected to need
a whopping 35 million barrels per day while the world is projected to
need 120 million barrels per day."

From www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

www.peakoil.com

..scary stuff.
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby 128shot » Sun 21 Jan 2007, 21:48:19

I wanted to see what was up with the rising gas prices. I wouldn't take "the oil companies/OPEC is responsible for this" mindset. I want a more believable answer.



I still don't believe peak oil is the end of civilization though.....
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby Armageddon » Mon 22 Jan 2007, 01:29:20

I heard michael rupport on the jeff rense show. I seldom listen to the live shows, and I saw an archive that said, " from the wilderness". I was thinking, what the hell is that ? So I listened to michael speak. And he made so much sense. Then I learned how 911 and PO are directly related, and started researching how 911 was an inside job. Crossing the Rubicon , twighlight in the desert and the party's over were enough for me. It's been a fun ride these past 2 years.
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby Bas » Mon 22 Jan 2007, 01:49:14

Matt Savinar got me really interested after I read the abstract from his book though I find much of what he wrote sensationalist and sometimes unfounded (more so over time). None the less, the subject has never ceased to interest me since the summer of 2004.
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby MattSavinar » Mon 22 Jan 2007, 02:18:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'W')ay back in good ole 2004, America was enchanted with Adam Sandler's 50 first dates, Usher sold more albums that anybody else, & peak oil began it's journey to global attention.

And so, for your edification, here's the MASSIVE www.fark.com thread that started it all...

Funny ole world when it's Fark that launches the popular peak oil movement.

Thanks Drew...

Your dog wants oil.

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comment ... ink=828707


boy does that bring back memories. I had gone down to los angeles for a job interview. Came back and the site was getting thousands of visitors per hour. LATOC had previously gotten a link at whatreallyhappenedcom and that brought in 7,000 or so in a day. The fark link brought in 100,000 visits in 2 days.
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Re: Why do you know about peak oil?

Postby MattSavinar » Mon 22 Jan 2007, 02:19:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'R')eading that thread makes me want dieoff oh so badly...


you got to admit replies like this were damn funny:



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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby Carlhole » Mon 22 Jan 2007, 03:24:47

I thought it was Deffeyes book, 'Hubbert's Peak', in 1999 along with the Scientific american article of that year by Campbell and LaHerrere called 'The end of Cheap Oil' that set it off.

Of course, the War in Iraq was what really ignited the broader awareness - that and whole series of other books on the subject that came out in 2003 - 2005.

I read Hubbert's Peak when it first hit the shelves.
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby MattSavinar » Mon 22 Jan 2007, 04:21:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I') thought it was Deffeyes book, 'Hubbert's Peak', in 1999 along with the Scientific american article of that year by Campbell and LaHerrere called 'The end of Cheap Oil' that set it off.

Of course, the War in Iraq was what really ignited the broader awareness - that and whole series of other books on the subject that came out in 2003 - 2005.

I read Hubbert's Peak when it first hit the shelves.


Exactly. Only within the group that discovered online - which is disporportionately made up of IT guys like Aaron - did LATOC play any sort of a significant role.

I'm not saying that out of false modesty, it is simply the reality of the situation. It's niche sucess has allowwed me to make a modest living from it. So I'm pretty glad about that as the alternative would be slaving away at some law firm sweatshop.

And I dont' think there is really a "movement." But that's probably another thread.
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Re: Why you know about peak oil?

Postby MattSavinar » Mon 22 Jan 2007, 04:26:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('128shot', 'I') wanted to see what was up with the rising gas prices. I wouldn't take "the oil companies/OPEC is responsible for this" mindset. I want a more believable answer.



I still don't believe peak oil is the end of civilization though.....


have you been watching what is going on in the cradle of civilization lately? As the saying goes, the future is here it's just not widely distributed yet. (And I sincerely hope it isn't for a while longer.)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.') . . listen to Iraqis like taxi driver Ali Mansoor, 38. Last fall Mansoor's neighborhood in central Baghdad, a mixed Shi'ite-Sunni area known as al-Sadoon, became a sectarian killing zone. The streets around his house were the scene of scores of murders and abductions every day.


Source: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 22,00.html

Sounds like the end of civilization has come to the cradle of civilization to me.
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