This is another one for the peakoil.com archives! Love it...
I can't tell me favorite parts, but right now I really like the Armageddon nut referencing passages in the bible. That was awesome.
However, the winner has to go to this gem:
"While I realize the exact year may not be accurate, would it be correct to reasonably assume that by the year 2012-2015, America and the world in general will be in a world of shit, aka second greater permanent energy depression that we will NEVER get out of, and from then on out it will only get worse and worse as we get slammed and hammered by peak oil, peak water, population correction, supergerms and super viruses, global warming AND global dimming, asteroids and comets from space, etc..."
Oh my.....wow. You know, a number of psychological medications really should be advertising on this site. Talk about missing a goldmine! And seriously, while I admire you guys' ability to maintain a consistently depressing outlook on everything, I think it's a little unhealthy. You're not prepared, you're paralyzed. This is life, and all kinds of crazy shit can happen. And to be honest, the threats we currently face in this day and age aren't shit. Read some history, and get a feel for what human struggle really is. Maybe then you'll appreciate all that you have been given , do the best you can with it, and try to move forward regardless of what you're facing.
Or you guys can sit around and talk about the same doom and depression and homemade cat recdipes that you've been ranting about for years on here. Fucking ridiculous.
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Re: Depression 2007?
by syrac818 » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 21:03:28
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Re: Depression 2007?
by slick » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 21:24:51
The web is full of doomsday predictions and sites like peakoil.com that focus on the possibility of harsh outcomes, but there is a whole slew of arguments on the other side that are rarely supported by small groups of believers on the internet.
It is therefore highly unwise to make financial planning decisions on the basis of the thoughts of doomers like Jim Puplava and his hand-picked guests at financialsense.com. People like this tout commodities above all else, and that market could turn on a dime.
You have been warned!
It is therefore highly unwise to make financial planning decisions on the basis of the thoughts of doomers like Jim Puplava and his hand-picked guests at financialsense.com. People like this tout commodities above all else, and that market could turn on a dime.
You have been warned!
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Re: Depression 2007?
by inquiry » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 21:44:17
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('slick', 'T')he web is full of doomsday predictions and sites like peakoil.com that focus on the possibility of harsh outcomes, but there is a whole slew of arguments on the other side that are rarely supported by small groups of believers on the internet.
It is therefore highly unwise to make financial planning decisions on the basis of the thoughts of doomers like Jim Puplava and his hand-picked guests at financialsense.com. People like this tout commodities above all else, and that market could turn on a dime.
You have been warned!
It is therefore highly unwise to make financial planning decisions on the basis of the thoughts of doomers like Jim Puplava and his hand-picked guests at financialsense.com. People like this tout commodities above all else, and that market could turn on a dime.
You have been warned!
Other scenarios that have been named are:
* Antibiotic resistance. Natural selection would create super bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics, devastating the world population and causing a global collapse of civilization.[citation needed]
* Demography. Demographic trends create a "baby bust" that threatens the order of civilization as we know it.[22]
* Mutual assured destruction A full scale Nuclear war could kill billions, and the resulting Nuclear fallout effectively crush any form of civilization.
* Dysgenics. A lack of natural selection and the tendency of the more intelligent to have fewer children would lower the average health and intelligence enough to lead to an eventual collapse of civilization, associated with controversial eugenics theories.[23]
* Ecology. Natural resources are used up, or the environment is so damaged through pollution and destruction that civilization fails.[citation needed]
* Finance. Markets fail worldwide, resulting in economic collapse: mass unemployment, rioting, famine, and death.[citation needed]
* Infertility. Human fertility continues to decline, eventually ending with no fertile humans left to continue the species.[citation needed]
* Gray Goo. Out-of-control self-replicating robots consume all living matter on Earth while building more of themselves.[citation needed]
* Overpopulation. World population may increase to such an extent in the future that it would lead to lack of space for habitation.[citation needed]
* Peak oil. Oil runs out before an economically viable replacement is devised, leading to global chaos.[24]
* Quantum energy. In the search for new quantum particles, scientists accidentally destroy the universe. This, however, is highly unlikely; a Chernobyl style disaster is much more possible.[citation needed]
* Telomere. Some researchers theorize a tiny loss of telomere length from one generation to the next, mirroring the process of aging in individuals. Over thousands of generations the telomere erodes down to its critical level. Once at the critical level we would expect to see outbreaks of age-related diseases occurring earlier in life and finally a population crash.[25
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Re: Depression 2007?
by coyote » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 22:19:55
syrac, it's very interesting to look through your posts and note the difference between the earlier and the later. Not the content so much as the tone. You've become highly sarcastic and self-certain, and you repeat the same straw man cut with nearly every post. Whoever said anything about eating cats? Must have been a while ago. Ironically, you're the one who's been ranting about cat recipes.
Since we're doing favorites (and you did find a pretty good one -- comets are probably not something it's really fruitful to worry about), this was my favorite of yours:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('syrac818', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KhanCEO', 'I') suggest buying gold bullion, there is little risk. Gold is gold, you can always sell it, never a bad investment.
Since we're doing favorites (and you did find a pretty good one -- comets are probably not something it's really fruitful to worry about), this was my favorite of yours:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('syrac818', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KhanCEO', 'I') suggest buying gold bullion, there is little risk. Gold is gold, you can always sell it, never a bad investment.
This is probably the worst piece of financial advice I've seen in years.
http://www.peakoil.com/post363525.html#363525
CBOE Gold index
Too bad we didn't get in on that one, eh?
I don't bring this up to point out your mistake -- we all make mistakes, especially when trying to predict a future filled with far too many variables to grasp at once -- but rather your slapdown tone. Is it possible you don't know everything -- about the future, and about us? Is it possible you're mistaken?
Regardless of what you think of us, I'd keep preparing if I were you. Just for fun, as it were.
Lord, here comes the flood
We'll say goodbye to flesh and blood
If again the seas are silent in any still alive
It'll be those who gave their island to survive...
We'll say goodbye to flesh and blood
If again the seas are silent in any still alive
It'll be those who gave their island to survive...
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Re: Depression 2007?
by Stratovarius » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 23:38:20
Syrac sounds like a noob troll.
You can leave now.
You can leave now.
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Re: Depression 2007?
by threadbear » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 23:39:21
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('inquiry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cobra_Strike', 'I')t is possible, and the opinion of some on this board...even likely. There will be confirmation in the rear view window.
What will be the first coming signs of it happening or not as we enter January 2007? Would it be the first quarter earnings, or the job data for spring or what? Essentially, what will be the indicator (as we enter into 2007) that will let us know more decisively if and whether or not 2007 will be a 'good' year or a 'bad' one?
I would try to keep an eye on 'personal' signs. By personal, I mean don't exclusively watch what is happening on WallStreet. For instance, when your best friend loses his job at Best Buy and has a hard time finding work at Pizza Hut because of the competition. Or, more of your friends, need to move back home with Mom and Dad to make ends meet. Oh, wait! That is already happening...
FYI - you will not find what you are looking for on a billboard. By the time it is openly acknowledged as fact, it will already be too late. If you believe it is coming, plan accordingly...
This is a good point. During the dirty thirties the stock market was remarkably endurable. As a matter of fact, the papers of the time didn't cover the grinding hard times people were enduring. The media never used the term "depression" and portrayed the continuity of rotten economic news without context. As a result the bad news came across as a series of unfortunate random events, devoid of an overall pattern. Sound familiar? People tended to blame themselves. The ones who could see beyond the consensus delustion became politically active and threatened to start an American style Bolshevik revolution. Libertarians crack me up when they go on about Roosevelt and how his liberal social programs were the beginning of the end of the US. If he hadn't
For a modern take on an economy that is presented in an apolitical way, that encourages people to blame themselves for circumstances beyond their control, read Barbara Ehrenreich's Bait and Switch. It's an eye opener.
