[CityBoyGoneCountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '
')But the fact is, with only yourself to sell this concept, it doesn't seem interesting. Men are more likely to watch your show as is, as long as you (yes) show skin. Why else would we watch it? Bob Vila can do the same stuff you do, faster and more accurately. All you have on Bob is tits.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou've gotta ride the mythical line between slut and goddess to be a real video star. Western standards of televised entertainment demand it.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') think the "extreme sustainable make-over" idea has merit.

A set of episodes where you "makeover" a family by replacing commercial products with sustainable alternatives is interesting.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CityBoyGoneCountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I') think the "extreme sustainable make-over" idea has merit.

A set of episodes where you "makeover" a family by replacing commercial products with sustainable alternatives is interesting.

[blucifershammer]

k patti just found the link to vid at AR15.com survival forum,great stuff!Been there and tried it myself 20 years ago would like to chat about it with you sometime.The presentation is great,liked it!Screen name before everbody starts, is name of a book on my shelf lol.Boston huh my GF's parents live up there ,must be tough living and farming in the cold?Did you consider trout to handle the temp? Aqaculture was a big interest of mine too.Rodal Press had a book on it years ago still have it I think,might be worth a look for old info? got a minute to chat ? blucifershammer13@verizon.net anybody else welcome too,sorry 2 finger typer

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

Julia Child had neither good looks or coherent speech. All she had was a kitchen and a camera. Yet it was her show that built an empire and spawned countless imitators.

Patti has both good looks and coherent speech. But more important, she has a good message. Keep it simple and just be yourself, and you will have an audience. I believe that.

[FilmShack]

Farmette emergency!

I want to talk about these new comments, very interesting, however my bunny Paula gave birth to too many kits and so I have to try and save them, she tossed two out of the nest and they are practically frozen! This is her first litter and she doesn't seem to know what she's doing so well. As soon as I get the "crisis" under control, I'll be messaging back! Thanks again for the comments and help-Patti

[firestarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CityBoyGoneCountry', '
')
Teaching people how to be self-sufficient is just part of the challenge. The other challenge is teaching them to love being self-sufficient.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('firestarter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CityBoyGoneCountry', '
')
Teaching people how to be self-sufficient is just part of the challenge. The other challenge is teaching them to love being self-sufficient.

[garyp]

Having thought about it some more, I'd make the follow further suggestions:

1) "Organic" is probably the best 'branding' direction to come from. 'Sustainable' and 'ecology' are too fringe. 'Healthy' and 'care for the environment' are good secondary terms. A title of something like "Getting Organic" or "Not Just a Pretty Face" - no matter what it has to sound good, interesting and not preachy.

2) Whatever you present has to be simple enough that people can feel that they could do it themselves. A good rule of thumb should be that they can set it up in a day, and it takes no longer than 5-10 mins a day after, preferably not every day either.

3) Think modular elements, covering one element in a show.

4) Think and consider aesthetics as a major consideration. Whatever you suggest has to work in suburbia, and if possible be a positive addition. Presenting something as a 'Victorian Kitchen Garden', with all that entails, helps make it acceptable.

5) Present manual effort as a)a way to keep trim without the gym, b) chores for the kids, or c) not really hard work at all.

6) Online, free download plans related to the show are a great way to know how many people are taking what's said to heart.

7) Always worth considering melding it with the makeover approach, eg helping a family of the clueless to do X

I would suggest given the route you are looking at it would be well worth you studying and understanding the path taken by Charlie Dimmock in the UK. Try to catch one of the Ground Force shows to see how entertainment and education can seamlessly meld.

[AnniCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '
')
You know what your problem is? You don't know your audience.

Most of (us) are men. Not women...

[Ludi]

What's wrong with being a sexy garden goddess? I don't have a problem with that.

[FilmShack]

Blistered: Well, clearly you had a lot to say! I think you have misinterpreted some of my earlier statement. I intend to be me. Smart, Sexy and Cool. Oprah and Company can't steal me. The ideas and the principle's behind my work are thousands of years old. I would welcome other shows. Bob Villa and most of the others are professional hosts.(All I have on Bob Villa is Tits?) I've met Bob, and trust me, he couldn't build his way out of a paper bag, me or the Tool Belt Diva could chump him in a heartbeat. They (Hosts) don't actually know or do anything, that seperates me from the rest. I am in the business and trust me, off camera there are experts typing into the teleprompter and the host puppet does her thing. I want men to be involved and have fun doing it. That is one of the goals. Try it, you might get lucky that way. "Punch Drunk" I have been working on this project for a while, and what you are seeing now is my teaser to begin building an audience and a critical mass for the show. I'm not argueing with you, men are part of my audience as well.

Joak: Thank you for the kind words. I will look into the show. My goal is not to send anyone to the poor house. Feel free to post my link for me, I am just trying to keep up with the posts I've made. I hope all people figure out that I do my main chatting/messaging here.

CityBoy: Killer Quote! I love that. Thank you for the support. You have been incredibly helpfull, with meaningful thoughts and Ideas. Did I mention that I love the quote you posted? All of my methods are designed to take the work out, and put the fun in to sustainable living. City boy, did you post your comments on the google site yet? So right about Julia Child. What did the average american have in common with her?

Aaron: Thanks for the thoughts on the makeover idea's. I don't know how I feel about it yet. In terms of "slut-goddess", I can tell you all, that I will just be me thats it. And if that works then great, if not, I tried. You're dead on about "King Kong".

Blucifer: Feel free to send me a private message here. I'm trying to do all(most) of my communications out of this forum. Thank you for the kind words.

FireStarter: I would have agreed with you a week ago about whistling in the wind. But I did a bit of checking around and I think we are developing true legs here. For example if you search google video for HGTV it will pull up a trailer or two fo their shows. HGTV spends huge money on getting viewers for it's programing. Their latest show has only had 100 hits in six months. If you do the same with PBS, you will see that their number one show's are about the environment, they average around three hundred hits per day. In the last week we (Garden Girl) is averaging around 800 hits per day. So I would like to say that this is a timing issue, people are tired of the same old thing, and want some new cookies. So I believe with my presence, experience, and appearance we are just what is needed to break this thing mainstream. Even with my big words.

GaryP: Isn't Charlie hot? I love Ground force always have. Organic? Well I'm "Certified Orgasmic"....that's a little garden humor. Keep thinking of more ideas, I like where you are going. This is tricky stuff. I especially love ideas 5 and 6 and 2.

Anni:Thank you well said.
Ludi: Yeah, what is wrong with a garden goddess? It's slut that bothers me.

Thank you all,


Patti

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')aron: Thanks for the thoughts on the makeover idea's. I don't know how I feel about it yet. In terms of "slut-goddess", I can tell you all, that I will just be me thats it. And if that works then great, if not, I tried. You're dead on about "King Kong".

[BlisteredWhippet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FilmShack', 'I')'ve met Bob, and trust me, he couldn't build his way out of a paper bag, me or the Tool Belt Diva could chump him in a heartbeat. They (Hosts) don't actually know or do anything, that seperates me from the rest.

[FilmShack]

Aaron: I know you never said slut, it was Blister and he didn't mean that I was a slut, he was sugesting that I act like one, I think.....check your mail box on tuesday, and you better like it! I spent six hours on it!

Mayber I have no sence of irony, but I don't really understand what Blister is trying to say. Those people are sexy? Maybe it is an age thing, and I'm too old for the joke.

Thanks Folks,

Patti

[firestarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FilmShack', '
')
FireStarter: I would have agreed with you a week ago about whistling in the wind. But I did a bit of checking around and I think we are developing true legs here. For example if you search google video for HGTV it will pull up a trailer or two fo their shows. HGTV spends huge money on getting viewers for it's programing. Their latest show has only had 100 hits in six months. If you do the same with PBS, you will see that their number one show's are about the environment, they average around three hundred hits per day. In the last week we (Garden Girl) is averaging around 800 hits per day. So I would like to say that this is a timing issue, people are tired of the same old thing, and want some new cookies. So I believe with my presence, experience, and appearance we are just what is needed to break this thing mainstream. Even with my big words.

Patti

[FilmShack]

Firestarter,

What I want to do isn't easy. That's one reason why I need so much help. My point is that the people that will watch my show will be a motivated audience. My show is still just a how to show, but think about the size of audience for it--

Gardeners, Cooking, Arts and Crafts, Construction, Animal lovers, homesteaders, .....On a basic "how to show" we cover so many groups that we can reach lots of audiences. Frankly people of the grid aren't the audience, it's the mainstreamers who pay for cable that is the audience. Watch the useless stuff they do on HGTV, DiscoveryHome, or to a lessor degree PBS. There is audience apparently for making scrap books. My show will be the only show that can help shift peoples mindsets. People that crap in a bucket don't care about TV. I want to have a better lifestyle post peak, not worse, they sent a man to the moon thirty years ago, we can find ways to work with the earth and still live meaningfull lives.

So I'm a dreamer--Did you leave a post on google yet? Huh? Shameless Self Promotion.

Thanks,

Patti

[firestarter]

Patti,

You remind me of Barbra Streisand's character in The Way We Were. God, you've got loads of passion! I want you to succeed, honest.

I remember like it was yesterday when my dad built our home in the late 70's on the template from Mother Earth News. My friends laughed at us, but dad held true to his principles and built a largely self sustaining dwelling (Karl Hess did the welding. Google him if you don't recognize his name and impact on the alternative crowd) that mom and dad still live in today. So believe me, I sympathize with you a great deal. They watch TV, and I'm sure they'd love your offering to death. My cynical misanthropism gets the best of me, so I'm probably not the best analyzer of your prospects. You come off as a cheerful, full of life gal. I don't underestimate the power attending that energetic attitude of yours. Hope you prove me wrong sooner than later. You wouldn't be the first to do that, you know

[BlisteredWhippet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FilmShack', 'M')ayber I have no sence of irony, but I don't really understand what Blister is trying to say. Those people are sexy? Maybe it is an age thing, and I'm too old for the joke.