$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he health care industry in the United States is out to make as much profit as possible. The various corporations that make up the health care industry have and will continue to lie and cover up facts in order to keep making profit.
When it comes to preventative medicine, and overall body health, I would say that natural medicine does a much better job than the pharmaceutical drugs that mainstream medicine uses.
The reason why the health care industry doesn't use an effective body cleansing system is because the ingredients that make up these systems are all natural, and non-patentable. There is no profit in a product that cannot be patented. It's that simple.
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Re: poop is trapped in people
by smiley » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 19:48:31
That is a bit short-sighted. Alternative medicine is now a multi-billion industry. It wouldn't surprise me if people on average spend more on alternative cures than on regular non-prescribed medicines.
The profit margins are also much more higher than for normal medicines. All you need is some marketing sense and a web site and you can start your own drug company. You don't need a FDA approval, no clinical test runs that weigh down on normal cures. The substances are usually extremely cheap to produce (especially for homeopatics). Big pharmaceutical companies would love to sell these kind of medicines.
So why don't the major drug companies get into the game?
The reason it is called alternative medicine is because it is a rebellion against the traditional drug companies. People buy the products simply because it does not bear the name of a Viox or Merck. And the producers of these medicines are keen to fuel the distrust.
When people buy these kind of cures they want to read a story about some very bright doctor, who figured out a cheap effective remedy against something, but is bullied by Big-Drug, jadajadajada...... .
...and finally decides that he/she cannot withhold the cure from the rest of the world and breaks her piggy-bank to produce it him/herself.
The big drug companies cannot offer such a story, so every attempt that they have taken in the previous few years to market these products has failed miserably.
Do natural medicines work? Yes a lot of them do, and have been used for centuries with great effect. However the alternative medicine branch is a shady business (as it has always been). They are not better than the people who sold mercury as a cure to headaches on the fairs in the 17th century.
I wouldn't trust my money (nor my health to it).
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Re: poop is trapped in people
by Carlhole » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 19:49:18
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f there were actually something to this, there is absolutely no reason why Western medicine would not include colon-cleansing in its treatment repetoire.
The health care industry in the United States is out to make as much profit as possible. The various corporations that make up the health care industry have and will continue to lie and cover up facts in order to keep making profit.
When it comes to preventative medicine, and overall body health, I would say that natural medicine does a much better job than the pharmaceutical drugs that mainstream medicine uses.
The reason why the health care industry doesn't use an effective body cleansing system is because the ingredients that make up these systems are all natural, and non-patentable. There is no profit in a product that cannot be patented. It's that simple.
Patents run out in just a few short years. When I have some nasal congestion, I can go to a market and buy the brand name PseudoPhed or I can buy some cheaper generic pseudophedrine hydrochloride that is chemically identical.
How long ago did the patent on aspirin (originally a brand name) run out? Drug stores still sell Epsom Salts, also used to purge the intestines among other things - was there ever a patent on epsom salts?
The advertsing industry does a bang up job of creating brand identity and loyalty. How else could Coca-Cola have become the giant that it is - it's little more than sugar water. But it's a highly profitable corporation.
If there were anything to colon-cleansing, over-the-counter herbal concoctions with just that 'special combination' would proliferate. There would be reputable studies done by both suppliers and independent agencies to determine why there is a problem with colon impaction in the first place and more studies to determine just how the various herbs work. And, again, colonoscopies would reveal the before and after results.
Colon-cleansing is one of those things that people decide to believe in (or suspend their disbelief) so that they can go out and indulge their belief. It must be the remnant childhood impulse to pretend - but maybe they can get some placebo effect out of itif their erroneous belief is strong enough.
I have to say, FF, you're amazingly full of shit for someone who's trying to make the opposite claim!
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Re: poop is trapped in people
by Falconoffury » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 21:41:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o natural medicines work? Yes a lot of them do, and have been used for centuries with great effect. However the alternative medicine branch is a shady business (as it has always been). They are not better than the people who sold mercury as a cure to headaches on the fairs in the 17th century.
This is contradictory. First you say that a lot of natural medicines work, then you say that it is no better than people who sold mercury as medicine. Perhaps you weren't referring to the results, but the fact that people didn't understand medicine that well 100+ years ago. I don't know, I just think it's a confusing paragraph.
You want to talk about shady business? I can't think of anything more shady than the drug companies that make drugs that they know will kill people, just so that they can take the initial profits on the stock and sell before the crash.
The health care industry doesn't give its patients choices. Doctors are trained to prescribe specific drugs to treat specific symptoms. It's all one big profit making machine. If you want health choices, you have to do your own research, usually getting the information from foreign countries. The FDA, FTC, and health care corporations are all in the profit making scheme, and they try to discredit and suppress all claims to natural medicine. Did you know that by law, only an FDA approved drug can diagnose, treat, or cure a disease? It's the shadiest business model I've ever seen. The only reason why natural medicine appears shady is because these rich corporations pay to make them look that way in the media.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') wouldn't trust my money (nor my health to it).
That's too bad. You might be able to save a lot of money if you find a natural medicine that works for you. The cost of health care to the middle class citizen is totally crazy these days. We're paying more than ever before, and getting less for our money than ever before. If I can solve my health problems naturally, I'm all for it.
I know some of you don't believe me. I just hope that those who do, will take steps to clean their colon. It doesn't have to be an official cleansing system like Colonix. It may just be some changes to one's diet. I just have to say that I found a colon cleansing system to be the best health decision I ever made.
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