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Even though I am getting little response to my words I hope someone is listening and would still appreciate that Peak oil Amen anytime.....
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THE Alex Jones Thread (merged)
Re: Alex Jones
by firestarter » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 18:58:10
My cynical large mind has me wondering more about the "cure" than the "problem/s" themselves regarding any number of the issues outlined by yourself. I'm often asking myself if there are underlying agendas being offered to us by crisis pimps who are no more than scheming little control freaks only bent on reshuffling the positions at central planning headquarters instead of abolishing the concept of people managers (right wing or left wing) all together. I'm certain, once the blockheads hatch and implement their "solutions", that the cure will likely be much worse than the disease. My 'solution" would start with giving people back their lives thereby forcing (negative force) them to take responsibilty at the most local of levels--vis-a-vis themselves.
Problem Solution hahaha
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Re: Alex Jones
by threadbear » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 19:12:13
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Even though I am getting little response to my words I hope someone is listening and would still appreciate that Peak oil Amen anytime.....
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Even though I am getting little response to my words I hope someone is listening and would still appreciate that Peak oil Amen anytime.....
My cynical large mind has me wondering more about the "cure" than the "problem/s" themselves regarding any number of the issues outlined by yourself. I'm often asking myself if there are underlying agendas being offered to us by crisis pimps who are no more than scheming little control freaks only bent on reshuffling the positions at central planning headquarters instead of abolishing the concept of people managers (right wing or left wing) all together. I'm certain, once the blockheads hatch and implement their "solutions", that the cure will likely be much worse than the disease. My 'solution" would start with giving people back their lives thereby forcing (negative force) them to take responsibilty at the most local of levels--vis-a-vis themselves.
Problem Solution hahaha
How would you give people back their lives? And how is the myth of individual taking responsibility going to help ? This is actually the problem with turf battles over the details of conspiracy that Jones and Ruppert engage in. They refuse to find affinity with most other commentators, (including each other) as Savinar describes, because they all have a slightly different point of view.
It doesn't matter that there is plenty in common there. They carry on as if they're engaged in individual moral battles against powerful half hidden forces. A kind of David versus a blurry Goliath. And if you're not with them, you're against them. Who does that sound like? They're basically fundamentalist thinkers on a hero's journey. Noble, in a way, but a little quixotic too.
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Re: Alex Jones
by MattSavinar » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 19:35:53
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')Not quite true. Rense and Jones actually tell more truth than un-truth. They are just mislead into the abiotic theory. But , all in all, they are on the good guys side of most issues. I am also not into Rense's alien and ghost crap either.
')Not quite true. Rense and Jones actually tell more truth than un-truth. They are just mislead into the abiotic theory. But , all in all, they are on the good guys side of most issues. I am also not into Rense's alien and ghost crap either.
I used to think that these guys were just misled too.Anyone who has listened for any period of time to Rense in particular, will know that he is a smart guy.Too smart not to be fully briefed on PO as a simple peaking of production issue, along with the economic havoc it will create.
I think he chooses not to discuss it, in any way, not even providing a debate.At least Noory had an on-air live debate a while back.(Ruppert vs Corsi).Being good guys on most issues isn't good enough.The fact that these two high profile anti-MSM commentators completely ignore peak oil as a reality smells bad, real bad.I dont know what there real motive is, but I don't think its good.
Rense had Ruppert on a couple years, and it seemed Rupport had him believing in PO. But Alex Jones has been on his program regularly and convinced him and Noory that PO is false, and that it is abiotic. Corsi comes on coast to coast and spews his non sense also. So , I guess Jones and Corsi were more convincing to Noory and Rense than the PO people on this debate imo.
It's not that they were more convincing. Rather, they were better for ratings, which means they were better for the advertisers.
Why were they better for the ratings? My guess is they're telling people a version of reality a lot more palatable: "let's get the evildoers and all will be well" versus "get ready to be poor and destitute and be happy about it." Which do you think helps sell more stuff?
