[Peepers]

Now I know Peak Oil has become a mainstream issue. It used to be that the Peak Oilers were the conspiracy theorists. Now, the conspiracy theorists are going after Peak Oil....

[MicroHydro]

Back in the 1970s days of the old republic, before the Bush crime family/NWO took over completely, Alex Jones and I would have been bitter foes over cultural issues. So Jones is not my favorite kind of guy. In some ways I prefer the more rational secular elements of TPTB to people like Jones. At least TPTB do not have a religious agenda amongst themselves.

Having said all that, Jones is about 80% accurate about TPTB, I know, I was in the big universities with many of them. I went to a seminar in '77 where the need for a 21st century genocide of the third world population with bioweapons was (hypothetically) discussed. Not to mention NSC memo 200, which was even earlier and mentioned famine as a weapon.

Obviously, Jones is no scientist and is dead wrong about the geological fact of oil depletion. But his instincts about human nature are dead right. Do some people plan to do nasty things to other people for personal gain, and lie about it? People do. Anyone believing otherwise should seek medical/psychiatric attention. I am not trying to flame, just being honest.

[Armageddon]

that is true. alex does see the big picture about the elitists wanting control, but he fails to understand how PO and the global world dominance go hand in hand. Bush and cheney need to gain control of the worlds remaining energy to use for their military dominance agenda. Bush and cheney are well aware of PO and know they need control of middle eastern oil to continue. If they dont, the game is over. This is why i believe 911 was conjured up for a pretext for war, and to get the american people on board with the war, and terrorism was the motive. Using a staged terror attack to gain the publics backing is not new. google search opperation northwood and you will see . PO, 911 conspiracy and nwo is such a deep and intriguing subject. Too bad we will never know their full motive and the full truth.

[Jake_old]

MicroHydro wrote

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ack in the 1970s days of the old republic, before the Bush crime family/NWO took over completely, Alex Jones and I would have been bitter foes over cultural issues. So Jones is not my favorite kind of guy. In some ways I prefer the more rational secular elements of TPTB to people like Jones. At least TPTB do not have a religious agenda amongst themselves.

Having said all that, Jones is about 80% accurate about TPTB, I know, I was in the big universities with many of them. I went to a seminar in '77 where the need for a 21st century genocide of the third world population with bioweapons was (hypothetically) discussed. Not to mention NSC memo 200, which was even earlier and mentioned famine as a weapon.

Obviously, Jones is no scientist and is dead wrong about the geological fact of oil depletion. But his instincts about human nature are dead right. Do some people plan to do nasty things to other people for personal gain, and lie about it? People do. Anyone believing otherwise should seek medical/psychiatric attention. I am not trying to flame, just being honest.

[Rickenbacker]

^ ^

Better and also less combative than I would have put it!

[RealityCheckBounced]

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/octobe ... ensors.htm

[SarahC1975]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/10/12.html

[Armageddon]

yeah , i saw that too. that is one show i know i wont be listening to. alex is blinded by PO and is too consumed by the 911 conspiracy, which i believe too, but i understand PO also. The two are actually related.

[SarahC1975]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'y')eah , i saw that too. that is one show i know i wont be listening to. alex is blinded by PO and is too consumed by the 911 conspiracy, which i believe too, but i understand PO also. The two are actually related.

[some_guy282]

The implications of peak oil are contrary to Jone's view of a police state and global control via New World Order. Ruppert doesn't believe there will be any significant police state, because everything will be local. There wont be enough energy for centralized power to organize a police state.

Like so many others in our society, Jones has a vested interest in not believing Peak Oil.

[aldente]

The ambivalent feeling comes from the fact that PO-posters identify with outsiders rather than mainstreamers, simply due to the subject nature and overall (non-)acceptance of PO. If an outsider then displays mainstream elements like Alex Jones (who started out as a conservative Republican BTW which might explain quite a bit) Wiki some of his (not new) statements become worth a thread on this forum. Alex Jones is a pisser.

[k_semler]

Yup. George Noory dosen't believe in PO, so it would stand to reason that he invites a person on who agrees with him, (except for maybe the NWO part, I don't know of George believes in the Illuminati's power and "lizard men".)

[SurvivalAcres]

You can add Jeff Rense and Lyndon LaRouche to the list of deniers on Peak Oil.

In any case, these people could do us all a favor and learn the subject more thoroughly.

One of the problems with these conspiracy theorists is their theory about why Peak Oil "lie" is occurring. It would require the global cooperation of tens of thousands of people, who notably, don't work for America or even the globalists. This is an impossible fact to swallow.

Notwithstanding the factual, physical evidence of Peak Oil, we are also expected to believe that this evidence proving peak is actually fabricated by this disparate elements. This is factually impossible.

Moreover, we are expected to believe that Peak Oil "plays into" the scheme of the globalists, when it is the opposite that is obviously true. The globalists are taking advantage of a very real situation and there's not much they, we, or anyone can do about it.

Jones and his kind are opportunist and are doing a great disservice to people by propogating their brand of lies. The knowledge and truth of Peak may not change the world, but propogating lies won't either. We're all in for a hell of a ride, no matter what you believe is "true" or "untrue". That evidence is already in.

Sometimes I wonder if conspiracy theorists like Jones always "take the other side" simply because it is not popular. Good for listeners / ratings and all that.

[sventvkg]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm

Also, he's on Coast to Coast Am starting now!!!

By the way, I'm a Peak Oil Believer..This is just a heads up cause it may be interesting and funny.

[joewp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sventvkg', 'h')ttp://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm Also, he's on Coast to Coast Am starting now!!!

[altenergygirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sventvkg', '
')By the way, I'm a Peak Oil Believer..

[TT]

Wouldn't it be wonderful to be part of Jones's reality.

Oil is abiotic. Money grows on trees. Nobody is poor. Nobody gets old. Everybody lives happily ever after.

OK - back to my reality now. PO is here.

[MagnoliaFan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'T')he implications of peak oil are contrary to Jone's view of a police state and global control via New World Order. Ruppert doesn't believe there will be any significant police state, because everything will be local. There wont be enough energy for centralized power to organize a police state.

[EnemyCombatant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TT', 'W')ouldn't it be wonderful to be part of Jones's reality. Oil is abiotic. Money grows on trees. Nobody is poor. Nobody gets old. Everybody lives happily ever after. OK - back to my reality now. PO is here.

[dbarberic]

AJ is to narrowly focused on the topics that interest him to see the larger picture. I like the readings of Mike Ruppurt much more than AJ.

While I believe that Mike Ruppurt is overly pessimistic, he does have a way of bringing together the larger picture in a coherent map that makes much more sense and seems to predict the future much more clearly.