[Polemic]

The question of loyalty is an important one.

[kam30en]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he question of loyalty is an important one.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam30en', 'W')e'd of been better off with a Stalinist dictator at the helm.

[kam30en]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t is all about perspective...i.e. the Muslims now call the Americans arriving in Iraq 'Jews'.
It is a 'mindset'...being a Jew is a 'belief'...you are NOT the chosen race. Get it?
This is the belief that you have well expressed here at PO, that you and your big f**king dysfunctinal brain are somehow superior.
And that my friend is why the jewish peoples, NOT the jewish 'race' have made few friends throughout HIStory...big brains, small hearts.

[kam30en]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'y')ou strike me as a kid who knows nothing about history.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam30en', 'S')talin was the energy that the Soviet Union needed. His policies, while causing the starvation of millions, led to the rapid industrialization that directly defeated Nazi Germany. Only a dictator like Stalin could lead us from our current path toward one that doesn't end in total collapse.

[Eli]

Well that is where this whole mess got started back at the fact that by Carter merely questioning the party line put out by AIPAC he gets raked across the coals.
EJ
I think Carter does call on the Palestinians to use non-violent protest. I doubt it is in them, the Palestinians right now are given over to way too much violence.
I agree much more with the Ultra Orthodox anti- Zionist who believe that modern Israel is committing a sin. They believe that it is the Messiah that is supposed to lead the Jews back to Israel.
Modern Israel is kind of schizophrenic, on the one hand they are secular then on the other thy chose the land because of religious reasons. Very screw ball logic. They should have taken over New Jersey they would have been better off.

EJ I am right there with you brother in that same place. I think the suffering to come will serve a clear purpose(I hope). When all this stuff comes crashing down it will be much easier to see who is peaceful and who has love and those that do not.

[Polemic]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', ' ')They should have taken over New Jersey they would have been better off.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam30en', 'O')nly a dictator like Stalin could lead us from our current path toward one that doesn't end in total collapse.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kam30en', 'O')nly a dictator like Stalin could lead us from our current path toward one that doesn't end in total collapse.

[I_Like_Plants]

(to the Oscar Meyer song)
My president has a first name, it's j-i-m-m-y
My president has a second name, it's c-a-r-t-e-r,
I love to hate him every day,
And if you ask me why I'll say,
'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way of screwing up the USA!

We were raised singing this!
OK, so we know things went in the tank under Carter's watch, but did he really screw up the USA? Or did he inherit problems caused by Nixon such as going off of the gold standard, historical events like the end of the Vietnam War and thus the withering of the military-industrial complex, and things in the Middle East caused by Israel?

[cynicalheretic]

Still 10 times the president George Bush could ever be

[jboogy]

he gets ridiculed for having paul volker do the short-term painful but long-term correct thing by raising interest rates to keep the economy from overheating and thereby keeping inflation and excess liquidity(bubbles) from happening. his economic policies were too complicated and correct for most of the public to understand.oil price shocks were beyond his ability ,or beyond his desire to mitigate. he could probably have worked a shady deal with opec to maintain low prices but I think he understood better than most the consequences of dealing with the devil.I (unlike most conservatives) at least give him credit for trying to rescue the hostages.He advocated energy conservation before most politicians had even heard of the concept. And don't forget he partied with Willie Nelson on the roof of the white house,how fooken' cool is that?

[kochevnik]

I met Carter in the late '70's - both time at the White House no less
The 70's are the blueprint for the beginning of what is to come - and Carter is the pre-eminent example of why we are so very very f**ked.
'merkans don't want to hear the truth - it hurts their brains. So they didn't listen then and they won't listen now either.
Bend over boys.