[jupiters_release]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'P')olestar,

I agree with you on how ugly TSHTF will be, but do you really wanna live in isolation?

[TreebeardsUncle]

Turtle, why so soon? Haven't you heard about the upcoming mini-glut of more oil being produced in the Gulf of Mexico, the Caspian Sea region, the ME, off the west coast of Africa, etc that should be keeping the world well supplied over the next several years. I think the peak production of all liquid fuels will come on the order of 2015. Then there will be coal and nuclear to waste.
Expect the American profligate insensitive lifestyle to last a couple more decades.
g

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '.')..
See you in the woods.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '.')..
See you in the woods.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TreebeardsUncle', 'T')urtle, why so soon? Haven't you heard about the upcoming mini-glut of more oil being produced in the Gulf of Mexico, the Caspian Sea region, the ME, off the west coast of Africa, etc that should be keeping the world well supplied over the next several years. I think the peak production of all liquid fuels will come on the order of 2015. Then there will be coal and nuclear to waste.
Expect the American profligate insensitive lifestyle to last a couple more decades.
g

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TreebeardsUncle', 'T')urtle, why so soon?

[dbruning]

Personally, I'd say it's the triple whammy of PO, climate change (which I feel is going to hit a lot harder than people think, and maybe a lot sooner as well), and financial meltdown of the global default currency that is going to mess everyone up.

Ironically, it's the PO issues (and everyone turning to vast amounts of coal we still have to burn), that will strengthen the climate issues until we have a planet that has a hugely reduced carrying capacity.

Having said that, what do you consider the be the heavy things approaching....if it's not something I'm already aware of, at least it's a Monday....my day's already sucking hehehe.

[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dbruning', 'P')ersonally, I'd say it's the triple whammy of PO, climate change (which I feel is going to hit a lot harder than people think, and maybe a lot sooner as well), and financial meltdown of the global default currency that is going to mess everyone up.

Ironically, it's the PO issues (and everyone turning to vast amounts of coal we still have to burn), that will strengthen the climate issues until we have a planet that has a hugely reduced carrying capacity.

Having said that, what do you consider the be the heavy things approaching....if it's not something I'm already aware of, at least it's a Monday....my day's already sucking hehehe.

[keehah]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ecause peak oil is not the only thing coming down the pike, nor the scariest.

[johnmarkos]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'S')ince you've decided not to post here anymore, can you please delete that obnoxious pic of yourself. It comes up on the "Peakoil.com is You!" thing on the sidebar at least once a day. It annoys the hell out of me.

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '
')Hey! That's exactly how I feel.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'H')ey, Turtle and Mule, you guys have been quite an inspiration to me the past couple of days, and I thank you for it.

[AgentR]

Where did they all go you ask?


They're playing World Of Warcraft!

[zoidberg]

Since a few people have come out of the woodwork to post in this thread, it would seem the doomers havent left, merely hibernated lurking until the time was right to post again.

Incidentally to those who think that reverting to a hunter gatherer state is the way to go, I must remind them that hunter gatherers always fall before the agricultural man, even before fossil fuels, and that the agricultural man always fall before the industrial man. It may be industrial man is falling from grace right now, but agricultural man is still kicking.

At any rate most arguing here is fruitless, as its really hard to convince someone about the future when its quite clear no-one really has a good idea of whats going to happen, or when. Because those guys at ASPO can certainly make good predictions based on data, but when the data is circumspect(Does SA give any reliable info about their reserves) how accurate can you be? Or when consumption rates can be erratic in economic downturns? or who knows how smart investment in say Iran's fields may yield more production for longer?

I find that after reading about peak oil, eventually you will come up to full speed on the situation, and then its kinda boring to keep going over it. I'm not there yet, but eventually I will be. In the meantime all we can do is watch the headlines roll in and carry on in the meantime.

Incidentally I just noticed RGR got 'permanently banned' What did he do, aside from being difficult to argue with?

[crapattack]

This doomer hasn't been around the forum much the last few months. Been too busy moving out to the country and getting my plans in place. Really busy.