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Re: Why Abortion is a good thing

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Fri 20 Oct 2006, 18:38:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'A')lso, in the long run, it makes it where only the women who want to have kids really bad, and the most feminine will actually reproduce, so we end up with hotter women!


I can't argue against that logic :)
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Re: Why Abortion is a good thing

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Fri 20 Oct 2006, 18:48:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'P')ym's assassination, the 3 weeks of rioting in France last year, plus the Muslim crime waves in normally safe places like Scandanavia have woken Euros up. At least that's what I hear from people I know over there.


California went through a similar experience, the LA riots and the referendum to cut off social services to illegal immigrants. A lot of good that did them, judicial activism pretty much curtailed the will of the voters. Even the 'conservative party' of the US (represented by Dubya) is hellbent on transforming the US into a Third World country by demographic means.

Europe is no different. Maybe guys like Le Pen and Haider will increase their share of the popular vote by a few percentage points, but the "Islamics" vote as well and there are more than enough socialist parties willing to pander to them.

If the EU can be imposed on an entire continent by bureaucratic fiat, then they'll have no problems neutering the so-called 'far right' political parties (just call them Nazis, make them illegal and be done with them).
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Re: Why Abortion is a good thing

Unread postby napoleon » Sat 21 Oct 2006, 23:25:42

All is fair in love and war. But it is strangly true that those who would value choice above everything else will typically either choose to die (enthanasia, assisted suicide), kill others (abortion) or simply not reproduce (homosexuality). Seems to be classic has a point that people who value choice seem to choose every option to guarantee their discontinuity.

I believe in overpopulation as so far as everyone else dies and kills each other to oblivion while myself and my 20 children (from 3 wives) breed our way to world domination.

After all, who's the stupid one; the one who bends over and kisses his ass goodbye, or the one who fucks his way to guarantee future generations of his genes?
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Re: Why Abortion is a good thing

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sun 22 Oct 2006, 10:57:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy Abortion is a good thing

Because it could prevent you from writting garbage here.
Sadly it had failed on this account.
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Re: Why Abortion is a good thing

Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Mon 23 Oct 2006, 05:44:54

Its' not just abortion CS, its' economic success as a whole and womens liberation.

I'm not saying that these are bad things of course not, but for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You want the goods you pay the price, you can not have it both ways.

I agree with your conclusions CS, thats' life.
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Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby whiteknight » Wed 06 Dec 2006, 22:23:14

Overpopulation. The specter of the population bomb is something we truely should fear. So, is abortion the answer? If so how can we encourage people who don't know or care about the problem to cut back on family size?

How about a subsidy? Lets give anyone who gets an abortion $1,000 and pay the tab. Its not that pricy for Planned Parenthood to do one, and the $1,000 will be cheep compared to the cost society must endure when the child is born.

After all, it's been shown that legal abortion leads to lower crime rates. Those children who would be born into poverty are more likely to turn to crime as a way out of their impoverished situation. Legal abortion (Roe vs. Wade) preceded the decline in crime rates by 16 years... Not just a coincidence.

With the money saved not having to lock those unborn criminals up we can afford the cost of subsidizing the abortions. A net financial savings in addition to a reduction in the world population! What bliss.

What do you think?
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby Daculling » Wed 06 Dec 2006, 22:27:53

One fertile child per family.

First female untouched. Everyone after that sterilized.



Edit: sorry sterilized not serialized. That comes later...
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 06 Dec 2006, 22:30:01

Low-cost or free vasectomies.

C'mon, guys, don't be chicken. Step up and prove you're a REAL man.

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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby Eli » Wed 06 Dec 2006, 23:05:44

I think mass death and killing is the answer.

It would be handy if because of over population, global climate change , and resource depletion the whole world erupted into a mass of all out global war.

A war in which the gloves finally come off and the nukes fly free.

Bingo bango we would have no more population problems, just a bunch of silhouettes where people once stood.
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 03:32:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', '
')First female untouched. Everyone after that sterilized.

...and sold to brothel at 16.
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby Ayame » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 04:10:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', '
')First female untouched. Everyone after that sterilized.

...and sold to brothel at 16.


Under this scenario poverty would be reduced as population would be reduced and so there would be less propensity for parents to sell their children to brothels at all.
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 04:30:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', '
')First female untouched. Everyone after that sterilized.

...and sold to brothel at 16.


Under this scenario poverty would be reduced as population would be reduced and so there would be less propensity for parents to sell their children to brothels at all.

If you forget plenty of "cultural implications" of such action.
After all, who need (save a pimp) 16 year old infertile female?
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 06:23:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', '[')url=http://www.vhemt.org/]The only awnser[/url]

Read: The only stupid answer.
One could also set up "I do not need the Earth after my death moovement".
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby Ayame » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 07:48:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', ' ')After all, who need (save a pimp) 16 year old infertile female?


Just about every other industry i.e: admin, marketing, retail, cleaning, care etc and every industry that 16 year old girls are currently employed in. Just because the females would be infertile doesn't mean they must go and be pimped.
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 08:04:00

"It is not so much hot in here as the level of stupid is unbearable "8)

Ya think population would be a problem if most of the world did not believe that birth control and abortion was against their "god"?

Ya think we would still over consume if our parents would give us more love then matter? or maybe if our minds were not geared to buy because we have been reared by corporations??

"Oh look what we have wrought - now they all must die"

Criminals? private prison business - unjust laws - targetting minorities - targetting the poor - targetting the inner cities.

I find it odd what people will and will not "buy"......
It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 09:36:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', ' ')After all, who need (save a pimp) 16 year old infertile female?


Just about every other industry i.e: admin, marketing, retail, cleaning, care etc and every industry that 16 year old girls are currently employed in. Just because the females would be infertile doesn't mean they must go and be pimped.

Can you forsee any frictions (this is mildly stated) between sterile and fertile females there?
Any further implications of that?
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby Ayame » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 09:45:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')Can you forsee any frictions (this is mildly stated) between sterile and fertile females there?
Any further implications of that?


I don't see any work frictions since people can still work and contribute to the economy whether they are infertile or not. In the social sphere the infertiles both male and female would be rioting especially since they would be the majority and overthrow the rules.
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 09:49:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '"')It is not so much hot in here as the level of stupid is unbearable "8)

Ya think population would be a problem if most of the world did not believe that birth control and abortion was against their "god"?

Ya think we would still over consume if our parents would give us more love then matter? or maybe if our minds were not geared to buy because we have been reared by corporations??

"Oh look what we have wrought - now they all must die"

Criminals? private prison business - unjust laws - targetting minorities - targetting the poor - targetting the inner cities.

I find it odd what people will and will not "buy"......

I do not believe that birth control fanatics will get anywhere beyond this (or few other) forums, at least on the West, but I can assure you, that should such fanatics get any success translated into actual policy, then inner cities, poor peoples, minorities etc would be targetted first and elites together with those "reasonably well of" would simply evade the law.
That is why lunatic birth control policy cannot work (even in China).
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Re: Is Abortion the Answer?

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 07 Dec 2006, 09:59:28

where does the "lunatic" and "fanatic" terminology come from?
It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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