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by Dreamtwister » Sat 28 Oct 2006, 01:03:23
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he guy is a fog horn. He also thinks that Peak Oil is propaganda.
Yes and he also thinks the world's power elite are all pre-historic alien lizard people who sacrifice children to the god Moloch.
He's wrong as often as he's right.
The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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by Carlhole » Sat 28 Oct 2006, 01:09:40
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he guy is a fog horn. He also thinks that Peak Oil is propaganda.
Yes and he also thinks the world's power elite are all pre-historic alien lizard people who sacrifice children to the god Moloch.
Got a link?
...or are you just being facetious?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'H')ope you can add to the discussion, have you seen things or made any connections that might lend credence to idea? If not...that's cool.
This is one of those things that everyone wonders about and so, naturally, people come out with different interpretations.
For example, I'm pretty sure that the US has had designs on establishing a permanent military presence in Iraq. But what was the real motivation for this?
Was it simply in accordance with all of previous US strategy such as the Carter Doctrine in which that president proclaimed that US acccess to ME oil supplies was regarded as a critical national security prerogative. And since there was no more Soviet Union preventing them from doing so, the US invaded?
Was it because Saddam had begun to make binding oil-field development contracts with the French, The Russians, The Germans, etc and US corporations found themselves shut out of the most lucrative petroleum reserves on the planet? Secondly, was Saddam's actions to denominate oil in Euros taken as an alarming threat to the status quo? In short, did premier Western capitalists and US corporate power co-opt the American government in a more or less fascistic invasion of another country for its resources?
Did Cheney's energy Task Force discuss Peak Oil at length and is this a primary driving force behind the US invasion of Iraq? If so, it seems to me that this would be the only scenario in which a future police state might eventually appear because in this scenario, it is not greed or business-as-usual that is driving events, but instead a recognition that soon an international scramble for energy resources was bound to occur anyway and the US interests might as well be first.
In this case, it seems very, very, unlikely that troops would ever be withdrawn from Iraq - no matter how bad the situation there deteriorates. And also, perhaps the foremost idea in Iraq was never to simply found a new government but, instead, to build permanent military bases from which to lord over Iraq's oil resources going into the worldwide energy-short future. So it will be interesting to see what happens after the election.
And lastly, is the invasion of Iraq a part of a larger effort by the US to become the first global empire in history? Alot of people seem to think so but I don't know. This is what Alex Jones keeps raving about.
And there always is the possibility of another 911-like event creating a whole new set of exigencies.