[Miki]

I've read several news articles in the last 3 years showing the censorship that anyone who wants to criticize the government of Israel experiences in the US. Professors at renowned American universities have been harassed by other professors/university officials, journalists have received death threats and tons of hate mail, embassies have cancelled talks by critics of Israel, and authorities have put pressure on universities to "shut up" talks or courses criticizing Israel...It seems American free speech does not include criticizing the state of Israel. Some examples:

US free speech row grows as author says Jewish complaints stopped launch party

Ed Pilkington in New York
Wednesday October 11, 2006
The Guardian

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he British-based author and former publisher Carmen Callil has become embroiled in a growing dispute over the limits of freedom of speech in America after a party celebrating her new book on Vichy France was cancelled because of the opinion she expresses about the modern state of Israel.

The row over Callil's book is the latest element in a dispute about restrictions on freedom of speech in the US in relation to comments on Israel.

A British-born academic based at New York University has had two speaking engagements called off after criticism of his views. Tony Judt, an American Jew who was brought up in Britain, was due to speak on the subject of the influence of the pro-Israeli lobby on US foreign policy and at a separate location under the title War and Genocide in European Memory Today. The first lecture was cancelled by the Polish consulate in New York, which owned the venue, while Mr Judt pulled out of the second after he was asked by the organisers to refrain from direct references to Israel. In both cases pro-Israeli organisations and individuals had raised objections to Mr Judt's views on Israel.

[AgentR]

Universities generally don't like either side making a fuss. Go ask a hardcore pro-Israeli group about their experience when setting up tables at events and stuff.

You poke at Israel, you get censured.
You poke at the palenstinians, you get censured.

Shut up and nod... you may proceed to the degree or paycheck table as appropriate.

[JustinFrankl]

The poll question as printed makes no sense. I cast my vote for "tuna sandwich".

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'U')niversities generally don't like either side making a fuss. Go ask a hardcore pro-Israeli group about their experience when setting up tables at events and stuff.

You poke at Israel, you get censured.
You poke at the palenstinians, you get censured.

Shut up and nod... you may proceed to the degree or paycheck table as appropriate.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', 'T')he poll question as printed makes no sense. I cast my vote for "tuna sandwich".

[JustinFrankl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', 'T')he poll question as printed makes no sense. I cast my vote for "tuna sandwich".

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', 'T')he poll question as printed makes no sense. I cast my vote for "tuna sandwich".

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'T')hey wish to do so, without any real academic debate, and will try to frame the issue, in just such a way as you have. The old moral equivalency bunk. You're smart AgentR, but not nearly smart enough. You'll need to do a little better than Propaganda 101 for this crowd.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'T')hey wish to do so, without any real academic debate, and will try to frame the issue, in just such a way as you have. The old moral equivalency bunk. You're smart AgentR, but not nearly smart enough. You'll need to do a little better than Propaganda 101 for this crowd.

[AgentR]

Miki likes to selectively cherry-pick concepts to fit an ideal, I like to come in behind and poke the cherry-pick to reveal how both groups get hosed by different methodologies.

And I think both forms of supression are wrong.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'M')iki likes to selectively cherry-pick concepts to fit an ideal, I like to come in behind and poke the cherry-pick to reveal how both groups get hosed by different methodologies.

And I think both forms of supression are wrong.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'B')y implying equal social influence and power to the pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian side, I have attempted to dilute the substance of her remarks"

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'B')y implying equal social influence and power to the pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian side, I have attempted to dilute the substance of her remarks"

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') was unclear. My "not a conspiracy remark" had to do with the linked "middle East Watch". It's certainly not a conspiracy, but a well funded policy to hound alternative opionion right out of mainstream--and now academic discourse.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') was unclear. My "not a conspiracy remark" had to do with the linked "middle East Watch". It's certainly not a conspiracy, but a well funded policy to hound alternative opionion right out of mainstream--and now academic discourse.