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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby NEOPO » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 18:13:47

yeah we like linky goodness ;-)

I expected you to suggest that the storm was only an illusion ;-)
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby nwildmand » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 18:38:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', 'A')ctually the NSA helped engineer Katrina to hit New Orleans (steered it towards the direction of New Orleans) instead of any other place in the US because Bush is racists and anti-black and would rather it hit a city with lots of African Americans than a more 'white' city.....

KATRINA as we know it was inevitable, however the NSA/ US Gov made it larger and directly/funneled it towards a black community.


thanks qwerty, i needed a good chuckle.

you dont actually believe that do you?
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 18:53:10

Katrina is the German form of Catherine. Bush is a Nazi and his Grandfather kissed Hitler's boots. Case closed. Slam-dunk. Of course qwerty believes it. duh!
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Zardoz » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 19:58:17

A few gems from Joe. Qwerty, what's your take on this stuff? :

http://www.vialls.com/kosher.html

http://www.vialls.com/myahudi/sunburn.html

http://www.vialls.com/transpositions/attack.html

http://www.vialls.com/mossad/arafat.htm

http://geocities.com/jewishterrorists/black.html

http://www.vialls.com/cowards/byebye.html

http://www.vialls.com/beirut/micronuke.html

http://www.vialls.com/subliminalsuggest ... nami2.html

http://www.vialls.com/iraq/carrierstrike.html

http://www.vialls.com/zionist/yvonnefletcher.html
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby venky » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 20:43:24

You will come across the abiotic theory of oil sooner or later. Atleast glad to see you are still studying the issue:)

Short answer, crackpot theory. Think there is a 30 page thread about it somewhere here?
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Zardoz » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 20:51:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('venky', '.')..the abiotic theory...think there is a 30 page thread about it somewhere here?

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic7333.html
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby seldom_seen » Thu 28 Sep 2006, 23:54:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'B')efore you all jump on me, I am NOT saying this is my opinion. I don't know enough about the topic.

I don't understand how someone could have over one thousand posts on www.peakoil.com and not know about "abiotic" oil theory.

You should take a break from spamming the forum for a few days and actually read about the subject matter that brings people to this site.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 00:27:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'B')efore you all jump on me, I am NOT saying this is my opinion. I don't know enough about the topic.

I don't understand how someone could have over one thousand posts on www.peakoil.com and not know about "abiotic" oil theory.

You should take a break from spamming the forum for a few days and actually read about the subject matter that brings people to this site.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby kabu » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 02:36:33

Ah, nevermind.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Grifter » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 04:25:35

Miki you should watch this

takes 1 hour of your time.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Miki » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 05:49:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'B')efore you all jump on me...

Come on, Miki, the late Joe Vialls (he died recently) was a virulent, foaming-at-the-mouth, conspiracy-theorizing, classically anti-Semitic neo-Nazi. He scoured the world from his computer in Australia, scraping together "evidence" of Jewish depravity for many years.


Well, I certainly didn't know that Zardoz. As for PO, I've read some of the basic stuff and I was planning to take a look at the "how to be prepared" (forgot the exact name) thread to learn about some possible ways to deal with this if it happens when it happens. There are many educated/intelligent people in this forum, and I just can't dismiss something that they all seem to agree with. I am skeptical of the more doomerish scenarios, but I need to learn more before discarding them. I even told my parents about it, and we have a piece of arable land and a house in the N. of Lebanon. Right now it only produces olives, but in my dad's village there are grapes, figs, cows, hens, and they are all fed with local stuff. I suggested that we try to prepare the land for other stuff, and that we consider buying some arable land in Peru (in the Andes), in case we're there. The Andes are very fertile. My parents didn't take me too seriously, to be honest. They both think that by the time the oil starts decreasins, alternative forms of energy will be available at a larger scale.

Thanks to those of you who bothered to explain it to me in polite terms. I am the first one to admit that I don't know enough about the topic. That said, I don't see how any of you intends to convey your message if you atack anyone who asks questions, and you make assumptions about how ignorant they are and how much respect they have for your opinions. I think people have the right to question and be skeptical, no?

PMS seems to have too many assumptions about me. He seems to think that the criminal wars that the US and Israel fight for oil have nothing to do with oil. Aren't the resource wars one of the most dramatic consequences of PO? Aren't the millions of lives that will be lost the most important aspect of all this?

He also seems to think that I don't have any respect for the opinions of others and that I am as rigid as he is. He seems to think that, like him, I get my views on the world from the bunch of liars in the US government. He seems to think that the thousands of people that are being slaughtered thanks to his country's greed for oil are not important. He seems to think that only American lives and the maintenance of the filthy "American lifestyle" is important.

Seldom Seen is too unconfortable with the things I say, so he calls them "spam" and atacks me. He would like to continue thinking that Muslims are a bunch of backward criminals, and that him and his government have no responsability on this, so he would love for me to stop pointing out the unconfortable truth to him and others. Somehow the concept that the Open Discussion forum is for any topic doesn't fit in his head. Neither has he understood one of the most important issues of PO: the geopolitical dynamics that it involves.

Interestingly, I don't see those that are open to my ideas complaining about me posting about Israel and the US. It is only the radical right wingers/Islamophobics "America is ever righteous" Israel's unconditional lovers that seem to be bothered by my posts. Must mean something, no?

You certainly don't help people get interested in PO by assuming they're ignorant, not having respect for their views, and not being open to their ideas. And then you complain that others are ignorant, not interested in PO, or not open to new ideas. Maybe that's part of the reason why many are not listening to you. And by "you" I mean those of you who seem to be offended by the fact that I have valid opinions that contradict their views.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Doly » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 06:16:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'A')ren't the resource wars one of the most dramatic consequences of PO? Aren't the millions of lives that will be lost the most important aspect of all this?


True. This said, while Iraq looks definitely like a resource war, I'm not entirely sure that what happened with Lebanon had to do with oil. And I know that I suggested it to you at the time, but the way events have developed, I don't know what to think any more. It doesn't look like Israel is going to attack Iran soon. Everything in the Middle East is so confusing...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')Seldom Seen is too unconfortable with the things I say, so he calls them "spam" and atacks me.


Seldom Seen is a gun nut. In other words, nobody this side of the Atlantic thinks he makes any sense at all. Of course, it's worrying to think that there are more people like that in America...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')You certainly don't help people get interested in PO by assuming they're ignorant, not having respect for their views, and not being open to their ideas. And then you complain that others are ignorant, not interested in PO, or not open to new ideas. Maybe that's part of the reason why many are not listening to you. And by "you" I mean those of you who seem to be offended by the fact that I have valid opinions that contradict their views.


Miki, you have just hit one of the things I keep repeating in these forums from time to time: you have to explain PO in the right way, or you won't be listened to. Certainly calling people ignorant and not respecting their views is a no-no.

But you have to realise that the people who post the most here are the ones with the most time in their hands, and you have to think what kind of people have lots of time in their hands. No disrespect to anybody in particular here, but after a while, you get to know a bit about the personal histories of frequent posters, and their posts make a lot more sense in that context.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Zardoz » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 11:45:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '.')..Thanks to those of you who bothered to explain it to me in polite terms...

What is "polite" about the title of your thread?

This is from the second paragraph of Joe's rant:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..unlimited oil reserves do exist inside planet earth...

You saw a chance to post an anti-Semitic diatribe, with a suitably inflamatory title, and shut down all critical thinking functions. Your extreme bias overwhelmed your capacity for reason, once again.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby mekrob » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 11:56:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat is "polite" about the title of your thread?


It's not the title she made up, it's the title from the article/web page.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')You saw a chance to post an anti-Semitic diatribe


I don't remember anything that was anti-Semitic about the article. They only mention it in the title and the 'Zionist Cabale" twice. That's not really a rant on Jews or Israel. It was mostly about the US and 'incompetent' Western geologists who could only uncover 2 trillion barrels of oil.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby nwildmand » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 15:52:30

you have it right zardoz, miki has been careful to hide her anti-semitism by seperating jews from israel. but she has slipped latley and used provacative thread titles taken from elsewhere to deflect association and argued definitions.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')This conspiracy theory about the Jews being the victims of the world is getting old,

That way, we can all empathize with the eternal victims of history...

It seems your people did not learn anything from the Holocaust. .

Besides, this anti-Israel sentiment is more than justified

By behaving like the Nazis against the Palestinians, the Israeli government and the Israelis that support it are more than deserving the hate they receive. They are the main promoters of anti-semitism in the world because they confirm with their actions that many of the accusations that they receive are true.


is she still fooling anybody here?

not that she isint entitled to her opinion but i find it disingenuos.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Atlantean_Relic » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 16:08:04

Maybe she isn't Anti-Semtic, just really angry that her kitten got blown up with a 500 pound bomb.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby kam30en » Fri 29 Sep 2006, 16:11:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')efore you all jump on me, I am NOT saying this is my opinion. I don't know enough about the topic.


What a tool. This guy is soo retarded he can't understand the simple idea of peak oil, even though he's been on here everday for months. All this guy does is rip on jews, thats it. Peak oil has NOTHING to do with jews and miki's ideas have nothing to do with REALITY.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Miki » Sat 30 Sep 2006, 08:25:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '.')..Thanks to those of you who bothered to explain it to me in polite terms...

What is "polite" about the title of your thread?


You're taking it very personally when it was not meant to be an atack on the idea of PO, but an invitation for discussion.

1-It was not *my* title.

2-I stated very clearly that it was not my opinion and that I don't even know enough about the topic.

3-I thought people were allowed to question some aspects of PO here. I was not told I was impolite when I did that before. Neither Venky, nor Azreal, nor SPG, nor Nwildman considered me impolite for that. On the contrary, they welcomed the fact that I was trying to learn about it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou saw a chance to post an anti-Semitic diatribe, with a suitably inflamatory title, and shut down all critical thinking functions. Your extreme bias overwhelmed your capacity for reason, once again.


1-Anti-Semitic? You're invited to review each and all my posts and find a single anti-Semitic remark on them. I am one of the few people in this forum who has bothered to ask everyone to respect all ethnicities and religions in their posts. And I did twice.

If you consider criticizing the state of Israel anti-semitic, that's another matter.

2-You're anger at me for posting an article that questioned PO has nothing to do with the quality of my arguments about American foreign policy, and you know that very well. I'm surprised that you say that from all people. I have seen you post many articles and comments that confirmed my arguments. Most of your ideas seem to agree quite a bit with mine.

3-I rarely post things based on my biases. I make it a point to provide links that provide support for my opinions, whereas people like Kam30en insist that the state of Israel is all righteous, but has yet to provide a link showing evidence that the accusations of war crimes and violations of human rights of the state of Israel are not true.

Nwildman: You should have provided the post from Kam30en's that I was responding to. You should have also provided my complete post, instead of picking and choosing from it. Kam30en was arguing that Jews are hated by everyone and that justifies everything they do. I pointed out that that *argument* is getting old and it's illogical. I also pointed out that if Jews are doing to Palestinians what the Nazis did to the Jews, then they have learned nothing from the Holocaust.

There is nothing anti-semitic about criticizing a government and those citizens that agree with the criminal actions of their government, such as Kam3-en. Those people are the greatest anti-Semites in the world.
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Aaron » Sat 30 Sep 2006, 09:08:37

I stopped responding to Abiotic oil threads about 1 year ago.

By typing the word abiotic into the search box here you can find tons of info about this topic.

And why it's nonsense.

That is all
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Re: Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist Scam

Postby Aaron » Sat 30 Sep 2006, 11:27:53

Oh yes... & if you really really want to know about abiotic oil...

...here ya go:

Abiotic Oil peakoil.com threads
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