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Do soulmates exists?

Postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 02:23:30

i can remember still to this day...a few years ago i had a dream..it felt so real that i am still imprinted with the feelings i had...i stood in a field...next to a barn full of sheep..and old rusted look to this barn..this barn was in the middle of this giant vast green field..and in the distance there was great mountains and hills to be seen...perfect wisped clouds in a deep blue sky...to my right i stood with a stranger to me in life..but in my dream i felt so close to this individual..though in my dream i knew her..i also realized i didnt recognize her face......she told me to leave...to go with her..she had to leave..to go with her....in my dream i felt very attached to this person..and when i woke ...i acually missed this person..and felt like i had been inlove with her all my life..since the second i had been born...this isnt the fisrt time this has happend...is it possible im reaching out to my soulmate in my dreams? she always seems to surprise me in my dreams..and i feel like she is welcoming me back all the time..and into her arms i lay for the rest of my dreams....please sombody..tell me what to think..this confuses me...am i insane? or has this ever happend to anyone before? have you fallin inlove in a dream?i feel like i have known this gurl all my life..and she definatly knows me..she calls my name all the time..and i also get a.."ive been waiting for you"..like she waits for me to dream to just see me..what should i do?i know i kno this person..ut from where?

Do soulmates really exists? I mean for most people that is, I know people like Bush the Devil that smells like sulfur do not have a soulmate, oh wait, Lucifer!
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby gego » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 02:42:35

Combine this thread with your "most beautiful woman" thread, and I would say you have a serious problem.

Creepy at best!
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby venky » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 02:48:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'C')ombine this thread with your "most beautiful woman" thread, and I would say you have a serious problem.

Creepy at best!


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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 02:52:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('venky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'C')ombine this thread with your "most beautiful woman" thread, and I would say you have a serious problem.

Creepy at best!


I'd say 8O


Up yours venky. How is believeing in soulmates creepy? Huh? I'd like that explained to me.... cause I really can't figure it out.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby gego » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 03:31:40

I think the soulmate post exhibits a longing for idylic love and the most beautiful woman post shows how you hold up some standard of perfection that blocks you from finding any soulmate.

Are there an abnormal number of missing women in your area?
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 03:34:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'I') think the soulmate post exhibits a longing for idylic love and the most beautiful woman post shows how you hold up some standard of perfection that blocks you from finding any soulmate.

Are there an abnormal number of missing women in your area?


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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 03:36:47

Anyway,

does anyone here believe in soulmates/twinsouls? Has anyone here found his/her/its soulmate/twinflame??

Please input if you have advice how I can find mine

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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby gego » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 03:46:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', '
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Please input if you have advice how I can find mine

thx


If you really want this, don't get offended, get into some therapy that will help you understand how you have been blocking yourself from getting what you want and take a copy of your most beautiful woman post with you. You gave a good part of the answer in it, but I am sure the issue has a much deeper root coming from the important women in your life.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby Quicksilver » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 08:26:56

For a minute there I thought this thread was about Hugo and Mahmoud :-D
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby Fergus » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 08:43:30

Absolutely. I have found mine. Wether we were fated to meet or this is just such a good coupling, I dont know, but so many things are right about my mate. We dont need to talk to communicate. I can read her as easily as she can read me.

How to find her, I have no idea. I found mine on the internet believe it of not. We've been together 9 years so far.

How will you know. When you put her before you without even thinking about it. When shes unhappy, your unhappy. You know what to do to make her happy again, without even thinking about it.

It truely is a pleasure to hear her laugh and see her smile. I get more joy out of that then anything I could give myself. When your ready to make someone else more important then your self, you will be ready to receive the greatest gift of life. True love. Its out there for everyone. Wether you are ready to accept it, thats up to you.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby galacticsurfer » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 09:04:58

Listening to your dreams is really important. The subconscious often tells you what you are really thinking and wanting. Our society is fixated on logical thinking and material needs, completely suppressing right brain / emotional part of human reaction in favor of logical, rational person.

I for example got into astrology and got a computer program six years ago. With it you can tell if your partner(or anybody else for that matter) is compatible too you in certain areas. For example both of my bosses and our bookkeeper and I at my job here have moon in Taurus and we are an import-export business. This goes really good for being good with money and sales.

I found that my wife and I have her moon(female/mother symbol) and my sun(male/father symbol) in conjuntion in Pisces and my Mars(male/lover symbol) and her Venus(female/lover symbol) in conjunction in Virgo. I did not know this when we got married. Although she was into astrology somewhat she was an amateur without a program and I saw it as superstitious bull. I now put more weight on it. She asked me my birthday when we first met and told me that it was the same as her brother's birthday. This puts of course his sun also in conjunction with her moon in pisces. Is this coincidence? Is coincidence just BS? I tend to think so. Not all family charts work out so well I know. However often partners with a similar sign work well togther(earth signs or water signs or fire signs or air signs together. For example my parents are Capricorn and Virgo(earth) and my wife's parents Cancer and Scorpio(water).

This is a lot of what it means when people hit it off together. their energies just fit. This is the practical part of finding a soul mate, finding someone whose energy or planets fit yours in some way. If you deny your feelings and look for a partner acccording to external physical characteristics or IQ and income or breeding/background, etc. you will likely miss a lot of the spontaneity. Actually we usually mix the two techniques a lot in practical life in a very flexible manner. Love can overcome a lot of social differences but there are certainly limits and perfect arranged marriages can never force people to love.

Keep dreaming. Venus is the perfect sex Goddess by the way. Your soul mate from dreams could be Moon(represents night and females and therefore your dreams of a woman without particular emphasis on sexuality). What you could need therefore is a woman who has a good connection between her moon and her venus with your planets. This is just speculation based on my experience and what above posters are saying about your current posting on dream woman in this and earlier post on perfect looking female.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby MattSavinar » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 10:45:49

The whole idea of a soulmate is deeply anti-spiritual. It basically means you're somebody's "one and only." Now I know I'm hot stuff and all but I'm not going to delude myself to think I'm some woman's one and only true mate for all of eternity. I mean, come on let's get real here! What sort of arrogant pompous ass would believe such a thing?

And vice versa.

Now that's not to say you can't be very compatible with somebody. (Look at Aaron and Monte, for example.)

It's as ridiculous as saying you have a soul-job or a soul-business partner. In reality you may find a job or business partner you get along with very very well but that's about it.

If you're feeling super attached to somebody it's probably the emotional pre-requisite for killing anybody you percieve to be a rival. Seriously. Think about the role of that attachment feeling in the environment in which we evolved. If you feel some person is your one and only true mate, you're going to get intensly jealous if another man comes along. And if capable you would have killed him, at least out in the wild. We see this behavior in other primates and even in humans. Take away civilization and you'd see it a whole lot more.

Think about that next time you start thinking about soulmates! It's actually an emotional illusion that evolved to make it easier for you to kill off potential rivals.

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In this way it's not unlike the emotional illusion of belief in a one true God who you must believe in in order to get to paradise after you die. What is the pragmatic, evolutionary function of the ability to hold such a belief? Well if only people who believe in your God are going to heaven and the people across the river believe in another God, it is much easier to kill them off when it comes time to fight for resources.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 11:18:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'T')he whole idea of a soulmate is deeply anti-spiritual. It basically means you're somebody's "one and only." Now I know I'm hot stuff and all but I'm not going to delude myself to think I'm some woman's one and only true mate.

And vice versa.

Now that's not to say you can't be very compatible with somebody. (Look at Aaron and Monte, for example.)

It's as ridiculous as saying you have a soul-job or a soul-business partner. In reality you may find a job or business partner you get along with very very well but that's about it.

If you're feeling super attached to somebody it's probably the emotional pre-requisite for killing anybody you percieve to be a rival. Seriously. Think about the role of that attachment feeling in the environment in which we evolved. If you feel some person is your one and only true mate, you're going to get intensly jealous if another man comes along. And if capable you would have killed him, at least out in the wild. We see this behavior in other primates and even in humans. Take away civilization and you'd see it a whole lot more.

Think about that next time you start thinking about soulmates! It's actually an emotional illusion that evolved to make it easier for you to kill off potential rivals.

Book

In this way it's not unlike the emotional illusion of belief in a one true God who you must believe in in order to get to paradise after you die. What is the pragmatic, evolutionary function of the ability to hold such a belief? Well if only people who believe in your God are going to heaven and the people across the river believe in another God, it is much easier to kill them off when it comes time to fight for resources.


Mr. Billy Gates of Peak Oil,

Have you ever heard of 'fate' or 'destiny'? I'm not saying everyone has a soulmate, I for one may very well NOT, and I'm pretty sure Bush the Devil that smells like Sulfur does not have a soulmate.

But this does not negate the fact that perfect idyllic enchanted soulmate love does not exist!

I'm not speaking about infatuation or lust, or the petty love that most men are concerned about. I'm talking about the highest form of love, sacrificial unconditional caring love, always wishing the best for the other person, two people who have a deep soullike recognition of each other, who instinctively trust each other and have a natural affinity and kinship, like magic almost. Initimate and enchanting, two souls that want to be together by natural desire, not duty or obligation or out of desperation or loneliness, they have a divine love, an unbreakable bond, a perfection that is better than perfect. It's meditative yet erotic, one and only.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby galacticsurfer » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 11:19:48

Matt

Of course when I presume some sort of truth in astrology I am simply assuming some sort of unseen attraction, like in physics, which is with current technology unmeasurable. This would simply explain why people with certain zodical signs "attract" one another. To call this fate is ridiculous. I do not see why people have hung onto such astrological ideas for so long(thousands of years) if there were no practical(i.e. experimental semi-scientific/observable) basis for it, as experienced by myself for instance. Basically on the other hand most psychological theory is rubbish and can be thrown in the garbage. It is faddish and comes and goes. Now psychopharmaceuticals are the "in" thing. Consciousness is a chemical reaction. In ten years they will believe something else and this will be "truth" in the universities and MSM. Religion was and is too vague for me. I mean it is ok but as a science of behaviour it is not very individual for me, but general for the masses("love thy neighbour"). Pychology is much better for the purpose of self improvement but the various schools are like religions, with purists and dogmatists and such and again very vague, like religion. So I am left with modern psychological astrology which takes my bith data and gives me a reading of my personality to improve it. I take it with a grain of salt and am not as stupid as Ron and Nancy Reagan planning theior schedule around the stars but I read and think about it like anybody reading self help books or their Bible thinking how they would better behave to make themselves a better person in light of personal weaknesses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_astrology

And if you take it as Karma that you get a crush on your murderer. Some people just keep repeating their past psychologists would say(woman attracted to abusive man like daddy, etc.)
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby Fergus » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 11:34:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'T')he whole idea of a soulmate is deeply anti-spiritual. It basically means you're somebody's "one and only." Now I know I'm hot stuff and all but I'm not going to delude myself to think I'm some woman's one and only true mate.

And vice versa.

Now that's not to say you can't be very compatible with somebody. (Look at Aaron and Monte, for example.)

It's as ridiculous as saying you have a soul-job or a soul-business partner. In reality you may find a job or business partner you get along with very very well but that's about it.

If you're feeling super attached to somebody it's probably the emotional pre-requisite for killing anybody you percieve to be a rival. Seriously. Think about the role of that attachment feeling in the environment in which we evolved. If you feel some person is your one and only true mate, you're going to get intensly jealous if another man comes along. And if capable you would have killed him, at least out in the wild. We see this behavior in other primates and even in humans. Take away civilization and you'd see it a whole lot more.

Think about that next time you start thinking about soulmates! It's actually an emotional illusion that evolved to make it easier for you to kill off potential rivals.

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In this way it's not unlike the emotional illusion of belief in a one true God who you must believe in in order to get to paradise after you die. What is the pragmatic, evolutionary function of the ability to hold such a belief? Well if only people who believe in your God are going to heaven and the people across the river believe in another God, it is much easier to kill them off when it comes time to fight for resources.


Way off the deep end there Matt. Could not be further to the truth.

If your a killer, your gunna kill for any reason, any where, anytime. When the mood hits, the emotions hit a certain point of the end of the world feels like its right around the corner.

State of mind, upbringing and morals make you who you are. Killing has nothing to do with love or eternity. It has no bearing on soulmates. Other then if you kill for your soulmate, your gunna go to jail and live without her for 15 years to life.

Emotions are the worst gift God gave us. Greed and JEALOUSY are among the worst. Anything done in either mode is not considered love. But a crime of passion.

Whats a resource war got to do with Love? A resource war is another name for Greed and jealousy. They got it, I need it, I am gunna take it since they wont give it to me. Emotions again. You fear your life or lifestyle is coming to an end so you go jack up the neighbor that has what you need. Thats just bad business. but I understand it. You can combat that. Just hope they are not expecting it when you jack em up. Surprise is so much easier.

You cant combat soulmates. You cant devide em, you can seperate them, you cant destroy them. Even in death, love lives on. You may have killed the lovers, but you did not come close to stopping love.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby Carlhole » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 11:45:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', ' ')have you fallin inlove in a dream?i feel like i have known this gurl all my life..and she definatly knows me..she calls my name all the time..


"GURL" is actually spelled G-I-R-L.

I thought since you were such an expressive infatuee, you may as well know how to spell the concept.

And "definatly" is spelled D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y!!!!!!

Definitely! Definitely! Definitely! Definitely! Definitely!

Get it right!!!!
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Postby qwerty » Fri 22 Sep 2006, 16:11:53

In another dream I dreamt I meet my soul mate. It was a beautiful love of epic proportions. I forgot who ‘I’ in ‘real life’ was and the only ‘I’ that existed was the universal self-identity and experience of consciousness and awareness of what it is like to be ‘me’ the individual. It was the same ‘I’ that all beings and creatures everywhere shared. I couldn’t see her face but I felt her nearness and presence. It was the most perfect love I have ever felt, it was a communion between my higher self, the higher ‘I’ with the higher ‘her’. It felt like we were on top, with everything else below us. Here time didn’t exist and didn’t matter, space was a unnecessary concept, it felt like everything and nothing at the same time, an infinite now, and an eternity in a moment.

I felt happy yet sad at once, it was bittersweet feeling of finally coming ‘home’ after an epic journey of hide and seek. I had left an eternity earlier yet now it seemed like just a second had passed. Even though I was back, I was full of reminiscence and forlorn nostalgia of the divine love we shared of long long ago.

And then I remembered it was all a game we decided to play with each other. But the new ‘I’ that did the remembering wasn’t the limited individual ‘I’, it was the highest order ‘I’ that oversaw all things and was a participant in all things. It’s miraculous that once ones boundary of ‘self-identity’ shifts in perspective the essences of ones being is becomes the object of ones newfound awareness. We are who we are because our localized awareness that is confined to an individual physical body defines what we are. When my consciousness expanded to include all human males, immediately I know that all along I was not simply this one individual person, but the real ‘I’, the one that has been hidden all along was this ONE male being, loving this ONE female being. And for a moment in that dream I really identified with him, I WAS him, the one and only male, with the one and only female. Meanwhile I knew that the individual I back in real life was nothing but one of the billions of instances of the greater me that was divided and spit apart with variations to make each individual ‘male’ unique. And likewise the greater her, in order to experience an almost infinite variation of life, love, fun, and hurt that we wanted to learn, give and take from each other, she needed to temporarily split herself into a zillion different mini-sub hers each different and unique in ‘her’ own way, and together ‘we’ the collective of human males and females throughout the eons would ‘experience’ each other, every possible facet of each other, every face, every unique variation, played out over and over again throughout the many ages. We were role playing with ourselves in every possible way. We wanted to explore every nook and cranny, to constantly refresh and renew the landscape, constantly experience and re-experience the newness of the first time, thousandths time, infinith time.

Ands that how we interacted with each other, though the proxy of billions of individual sub-us’s that interacted with each other on an ordinary daily basis.

And then for a moment everything made sense. There are no, and there never was any other ‘woman’, or any other ‘man’. Seen in that new light, infidelity jealousy envy marriage and divorce, death and birth, none of these mattered because none of these concepts were ‘real’. They simply didn’t exist, it was an illusion necessary to keep order and individuality while the two of us played the game. Once the game ended the rules were put away.

Everything we did, no matter how good or hideous, we did to ourselves. The concept of cruelty didn’t exist once I realized we were just doing this to ourselves to experience how it would feel.

And in that moment I realized, everything truly is perfect.

Everything is ONE.

One is infinity.

Infinity is Zero.

One, Infinity, zero, infinity, one, imaginary, real, complex, simple, zero, infinity, one.

I think my brain is overload.
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby swingbolder » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 11:57:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', 'A')nyway,

does anyone here believe in soulmates/twinsouls? Has anyone here found his/her/its soulmate/twinflame??

Please input if you have advice how I can find mine

thx


I met my soulmate and have happily been married to him for six years. It is a very deep and powerful union.

My advice to anyone looking for a soulmate is to let go of all that outside stuff (what the person looks like, what kind of job they have etc.) and find someone with whom you can entwine your total being. After all, the term is "soulmate" not "looksmate."
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby qwerty » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 12:00:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('swingbolder', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('qwerty', 'A')nyway,

does anyone here believe in soulmates/twinsouls? Has anyone here found his/her/its soulmate/twinflame??

Please input if you have advice how I can find mine

thx


I met my soulmate and have happily been married to him for six years. It is a very deep and powerful union.

My advice to anyone looking for a soulmate is to let go of all that outside stuff (what the person looks like, what kind of job they have etc.) and find someone with whom you can entwine your total being. After all, the term is "soulmate" not "looksmate."


Is that a convenient excuse for ugly people to get married/have sex?

Seriously, what is the DEFINITION of a soulmate? Metrics, definition, how do you KNOW?!?!
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Re: Do soulmates exists?

Postby Atlantean_Relic » Sat 23 Sep 2006, 21:51:54

Qwerty might I inquire what other corners of the internet you haunt?? Your mannerisms remind me of a few places.
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