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Trader's Corner 2006

Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL

Where will the price of WTIC oil be on December 29, 2006?

Less than $50
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Around $55
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Around $60
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Around $65
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Around $70
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More than $80
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Mon 04 Sep 2006, 02:47:55

Making hay while the sun is shining or pumping black gold while the price is high....
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ussia, the world's second-largest
oil supplier, boosted output and exports in August from the same
month of 2005, after prices jumped to a record in July.
Average daily oil output rose 2.8 percent to 9.76 million
barrels a day during the month, or 41.27 million tons, from 9.50
million barrels a day, compared with a year earlier, according to
the Energy and Industry Ministry's CDU-TEK unit.
Exports advanced to 5.40 million barrels a day, a 10 percent
jump from a year earlier, and up slightly from the 5.38 million
barrels a day shipped abroad in July.

Source: Bloomberg, September 4th, 2006

Bush & Co. simply will not do anything that jeapordizes growth in the short-term, no matter what the long-term consequences, something you should keep in mind when it comes to fighting inflation at the expense of the health of the housing market.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Bush administration hasn't
dropped its objection to a nationwide cap as a means of cutting
U.S. greenhouse gas emissions even as states impose limits, the
chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality said.
``There is great power in market-based approaches such as
caps and trades,'' James Connaughton said in an interview in Hong
Kong on Sept. 2. ``It's just a question of if it's the
appropriate tool at the appropriate time when it comes to CO2,
and our policy judgment to date is it's not.''
Source: Bloomberg, September 4th, 2006

Crude continues to fall as crack spreads remain narrow and unleaded/RBOB trade at a substantial discount to heating oil, which seems like a buy to me, but then again summer driving season is officially almost over as of tomorrow and we cruise into the Fall period with adequate stocks. Some storms on the horizon, but even hurricanes are losing their shock value as the market becomes a little more complacent about potential supply disruptions. As mentioned above, Iran is increasingly yesterday's news until there is some consensus over what the world should do with its prodigal child. Expect a lot of jawboning, but talk is good. Better than the alternatives. Should be a quiet day ahead, but just the fact that the market sold-off ahead of a long weekend does not bode well for the bulls entering the new month.

Do people even understand what fungible means?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hina's economy is expected to overtake the U.S. economy as the world's largest in 25 years, if current growth rates extend into the future, said Gary Dorsch, editor of the Global Money Trends newsletter.
The Energy Department forecasts that China's oil demand will increase by almost 500,000 barrels per day in 2006 -- that's 38% of the total growth in world oil demand. It already climbed from 1.8 million barrels per day in 1980 to about 6.4 million barrels per day in 2004, according to U.S. government figures.
"From China's standpoint, there is no question that they will need the oil some time in the future, and that is what is driving them on to do a deal," said Perry.
On the other hand, Chavez may be "trying to trade oil for world political influence," he said
[url=http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid={DB6E298C-9F76-42D3-B14D-7A8FB6FD42F0}&siteid=mktw&dist=nbi]Venezuela and China -- a troubling alliance?[/url]

Any oil that VZL sends to China is a net loss for VZL as China is not set-up to refine their heavier, sour grades of oil like the US is. At the sametime, China will want a discount for the poorer grade, while wanting something back for its own investments in VZL production capacity improvements. At the same time, every barrel that VZL sells China frees up another barrel somewhere else for the open market. World Supply = Global Demand at Price X Chavez can give the US a black eye by selling their oil elsewhere and by giving it away at below market prices to their neighbors, but in the long run that only hurts VZL. Banana Republics run by Tin Pot Dictators. It always ends the same way. The Bolivar Revolution is a smoke screen for the exploitation of VZL oil wealth for the benefit of Chavez and his cronies, while buying the needed friends and support in order to make sure no one interfers.

Reality check and the limits of an unreformed UN
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') Actually, in an earlier era Chinese nationals would not have served in an observer mission in Lebanon, and the People’s Republic would have taken a pass on the whole subject. But China now aspires to play an active role on the global stage, which is why it sends skilled diplomats like Wang Guangya to the U.N. That’s the good news. The bad news is that China’s view of “the international order” is very different from that of the United States, or of the West, and has led it to frustrate much of the agenda that makes the U.N. worth caring about. The People’s Republic has used its position as a permanent, veto-bearing member of the Security Council to protect abusive regimes with which it is on friendly terms, including those of Sudan, Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Myanmar and North Korea. And in the showdown with Iran that is now consuming the Security Council, and indeed the West itself, China is prepared to play the role of spoiler, blocking attempts to levy sanctions against the intransigent regime in Tehran.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 05 Sep 2006, 02:29:46

My models are in FULL short mode, with the possible exception of some bottom building in the NAT GAS, but that could quickly evaporate in the short-term. Not just my crude oil and products, but also power and coal futures as well. The weaker dollar is lending support to the base and precious metals, but hardly helping the crude complex out here. London took advantage of the Labor Day holiday in the US to push crude down another 100-150 pts. and sure enough WTI gapped lower at the Access open in Asia. There is really no reason to call for a correction at this point. Of course, traders may return from their long weekends and decide that September is a good month to buy now that we are below $70, but they will have to chew through a lot of resistance points on the way back up without any help from external factors like hurricanes and confrontations in the Strait of Hormuz.

This sums it up nicely.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') Traders appear to have grown weary of the Iran story as it now appears that any action or solution will be a process that could drag on for months. There have been no hurricanes to speak of. More importantly, the US economy appears to be slowing and traders are starting to turn attention to the actual supplies of crude in storage. And the more focus turns away from perceived threats to supply and keys on actual supply on hand, the lower prices are going to go.

While energy traders had expected a decline in US crude stocks this week, the DOE reported crude stocks increased 2.4 million barrels for the week ending August 25th, pegging US commercial crude oil inventories at 332.8 million barrels. This not only flies in the face of a seasonal tendency of stock declines for this time of year but also means current supplies are approximately 7% higher than the 14 year average for this time of year. Gasoline and distillate stocks also increased indicating that refinery snags are not to blame for excess crude.

While this is normally the time when distributors are accumulating crude oil supplies as heating oil production shifts into full swing, the tendency has not been as pronounced this year (as indicated by the last several DOE and API reports). An initial assumption for this could be to assume that gasoline demand had slackened, allowing crude inventories to build in August. But this is not the case. US Gasoline demand in August was 1.6% higher than August of 2005. Distillate demand was 2.8% higher than last year at this time.

Our inclination is to believe that distributors are postponing forward purchases of crude in the expectation that prices will be lower in September. This could be something for spec traders to take note of. Commercials generally follow core fundamentals and place less emphasis on news stories and emotion. With indications that the US economy is slowing, commercials could be anticipating a slowing of demand. And while speculators have been focusing on Iran, Lebanon and Ernesto, US crude stockpiles have quietly crept up to their highest levels in four years.
Tide Turning to Favor Bears?

Not that I am recommending short selling calls. That may or may not be the next best thing since sliced bread. I would be more inclined to flat price short crude with some out of the money calls as protection just in case. But that is me. Mr. Conservative. Take care and have a good week ahead.

Write me a blank cheque, too!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') type of initial public offering that vanished in the 1990s in a wave of scandals is making a comeback, and regulators say they are concerned investors may be defrauded again.

NASD, which polices more than 5,000 U.S. brokerage firms, says it is investigating the resurgence of ``blank checks'' -- shell companies that raise money in public markets without saying what they will spend it on.

This year, blank-check companies have sold $2.2 billion of stock in 28 offerings, and $4.3 billion more in new issues is planned with help from some of Wall Street's best-known banks and underwriters, including Citigroup Inc. and Merrill Lynch & Co., according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The data from filings show that firms have earned fees averaging 6.4 percent, generating a potential $417 million.
`Blank Check' IPOs Alarm NASD Amid Resurgence of Unnamed Deals
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 05 Sep 2006, 03:45:54

Peak Oil? Not if you're willing to turn The Rocky Mountains into an open pit mine!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') report prepared last year for the U.S. Energy Department by the Rand think tank said that about 20 percent of all oil-shale deposits are shallow enough that they may be extracted by strip-mining. However, it said the cost of strip-mining production would be much higher than with in situ, requiring world oil prices of at least $70 to $95 per barrel.

The report also noted that all forms of oil-shale production could cause a big shift toward burning the region's abundant supplies of coal.

Under in situ methods, the report said, each 100,000 barrels produced daily would require about 1.2 gigawatts of electric-generating capacity -- the size of Colorado's largest power plant, a coal-fired facility in nearby Craig. The Energy Department has forecast oil-shale production of 2 million barrels a day by 2020 and eventually 10 million barrels a day.

As a result, the report said, the industry could become a major producer of the greenhouse gases that are linked to global warming.

"The spooky thing is how much power will be needed for the oil shale," said Cook, the county commissioner.

O'Connor said Shell estimates that the energy value of the oil produced would be about 3.5 times greater than the energy in the electricity used to produce it, though he declined to provide details. Udall said such a result would be achievable only with the most expensive, rarely used natural-gas generating technology. Conventional coal-fired power plants would reduce the net power return to about 2 to 1, he said.


As an added benefit, once The Rocky Mountains are gone, it makes trans-continental railways more efficient as well as making it easier for precipitation from the Pacific Ocean to fall as rain on the Midwest to aid in dryland farming. Or you can use those exhausted open pit mines as water run-off storage cisterns to collect water for hydro-electric generation and non-potable water (because it is polluted) for industrial uses. Kind of like Mordor the dwelling place of Sauron Energy Company.

Or maybe you're not a JR Tolkien fan? Perhaps like Jules Verne you like to find your oil Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea instead?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')We're looking deeper, we're looking in deeper water, we're looking at deeper depth, we're looking in countries we have never looked before, environments that are very had to get to," he says.

"We have to bring all the technology we can to bear to be successful."

But haven't all the "elephant fields" - the big ones, which can pump for decades - been discovered?

Mr Detomo says they are still out there. But the quality of the oil, or difficulties in extracting it, can cause problems.

"The technology of today and tomorrow can look better and better at the opportunities," he says. "So far there's no limit on finding oil. The technologies can keep up with finding it, but it gets more and more difficult."
Has oil production finally peaked?

The only ones who are going to make money outta finding oil that deep, and that far out to sea, are perhaps the rig workers themselves. They get paid no matter what. Plus overtime and hardship benefits. Enough to pay-off a nice farm back home on dry land in any case.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Energy Files director Dr Michael Smith said "it is no longer appropriate to accept glib demand forecasts from oil companies, financial institutions and government suggestions that oil consumption will grow to up to 120 million barrels per day by 2020 and that automobile and airline traffic will increase at extraordinary rates are futile and damaging."
How much oil do we really have?



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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby TheGiantWave » Wed 06 Sep 2006, 02:43:18

Not much new to add... timing wise I think rallies are still a sell. Don't expect anything quick to come from the UN meeting later this week.

OPEC meeting on Sep-11th...

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 06 Sep 2006, 03:00:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheGiantWave', 'N')ot much new to add... timing wise I think rallies are still a sell. Don't expect anything quick to come from the UN meeting later this week.

OPEC meeting on Sep-11th...

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[s]Which futures month is that NAT GAS chart? Must be DEC if I am not mistaken? [/s] (sorry you said it was Z6) What do you think about the yawning spread between heating oil and unleaded/RBOB? It is quite wide and if your view is that nat gas gets much cheaper then that should be at least somewhat a moderating influence on heating oil upside potential or not? I see the unleaded spread is now just $3.00 a barrel, so compared to where is was during the summer $20-21, it has come off a long, long way and really telegraphed this move lower in the crude?

Yesterday's price action was just enough of a rally to close the gap in the WTI due to the holiday and then down again. I must admit. At the time though it felt like it wanted to go higher. I got faked out in any case. Did not hold my short-term long long enough. And sold again too early. A lousy day all in all.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Dubai Mercantile Exchange Limited (DME) and Emirates National Oil Company- ENOC, subsidiary ENOC Supply & Trading LLC today announced the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to explore the development of the first exchange-traded jet fuel futures contract.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby cube » Wed 06 Sep 2006, 15:01:53

hmmm....a closing price of $67.55

I've got a strong urge to go long. However what's the old saying? Tyring to pick tops and bottoms can be hazardous to your financial health. :P

I'm going to wait for now before taking action. If today was indeed the bottom I'll jump in after ~3 weeks. I'd rather pay a little more $$$ and have confidence that the bottom has indeed been hit rather then try to catch the absolute bottom price.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 07 Sep 2006, 04:59:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'h')mmm....a closing price of $67.55

I've got a strong urge to go long. However what's the old saying? Tyring to pick tops and bottoms can be hazardous to your financial health. :P

I'm going to wait for now before taking action. If today was indeed the bottom I'll jump in after ~3 weeks. I'd rather pay a little more $$$ and have confidence that the bottom has indeed been hit rather then try to catch the absolute bottom price.


I do not know about waiting 3-weeks? I would be tempted to buy some OTM calls for DEC expiry instead. 5% OTM would be a strike price around $73.50 in the DEC, and are not that expensive with the market leaning to the otherside at the moment.

Today's DOE/IEA numbers are forecast

Crude -0.9 -1.5 mio bbls
Distillates +0.5 +1.30 mio bbls
Unleaded unch'd -0.9 mio bbls
Refinery Runs -0.4% +0.3% 92.5%-93.0%

Nat Gas storage +69 bcf


In short nothing to get too excited about other than we are a little oversold on the daily charts in the WTI, the crack spread on gasoline is very narrow, last week's large crude import number might be expected to regress to the mean this week, and in any case the large headline crude number was offset by a drop in product imports as well.

Therefore, look for a surprise draw to change direction, and if not, a continuation lower. I have tentatively taken a long position here this morning in the Brent based on the hourly charts, but may not hold it long, as each afternoon we have seen renewed selling out of NY after they go hunting for the stops on the topside.

On going downgrades in oil & gas stocks based on low margins. Could be interesting if they come back to fair value and your outlook is eventually higher.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby cube » Thu 07 Sep 2006, 17:17:52

There's a 101 different ways to play the game.

As for me, I'm not here to go rabbit hunting. I'm waiting for the big elephant. Maybe 4 times out of the year a commodity will make a very strong movement. For crude this "strong movement" will translate to about $10. That's what I'm waiting for.

I'm not saying it's the best strategy...it's just the one that fits my personality the most. Some people can't stand this. They want constant action! If they're not opening or closing a contract on a weekly basis they get bored to death. I have a friend who day trades stocks and I asked him what's your definition of a "long term" contract. He replied "10 seconds"! 8O

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby drew » Thu 07 Sep 2006, 18:46:00

Will I be bragging a couple of months from now about my Nexen 3-peat, or crying? As many here know, I've made free money on Nexen twice trading it in the 60 to 70 dollar range. I am sooo tempted to pick it up again...it is near 62....


Hmmmmm

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 08 Sep 2006, 02:41:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'W')ill I be bragging a couple of months from now about my Nexen 3-peat, or crying? As many here know, I've made free money on Nexen twice trading it in the 60 to 70 dollar range. I am sooo tempted to pick it up again...it is near 62....


Hmmmmm

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We are either in the C leg of an ABC correction from $78.50 or actually in the 3rd leg of a 1.2.3.4.5 move lower from the highs, but it does not matter as both patterns point downwards. However, having come so far, rather quickly, my feeling is that we do need to pause now. Maybe that is wishful thinking? The bears have come out of the woods to play. It is gratifying to see the Brent come back into line compared to the WTI. Didn't make as much from that trade as I would have liked, but still nice to see the world back in order.

The models are still full short and no support coming from the gasoline crack spreads. Therefore, you may see some position squaring ahead of the weekend,but without some negative fundamental inputs like supply interuptions, I cannot see this thing turning on a dime? Where is the Iran put? Where is the Chavez factor? What happened to Nigeria?

IMF forecasts world growth in 2007 at 4.9%. That seems awfully high to me? Especially if the US is flirting with a recession? Never the less, most of that growth will have to come from parts of the world that use considerably more energy per unit of output, so the effect on demand will be up not down.

Yesterday's DOE/IEA numbers were largely unexceptional, but a slight build over and above expectations, so no good news for the bulls.

Crude -2.2 mio bbls to 330.6 mio bbls vs. -1.2 mio f/c
Distillates +3.1 mio bbls to 139.9 mio bbls vs. 1.25 mio f/c
Unleaded +700k bbls to 206.9 mio bbls vs. -0.8 mio f/c
Refinery Runs +0.7% to 93.6% vs. +0.1% f/c
Nat Gas Storage +71 bcf vs. +69 bcf f/c

TTL MPTS -788K to 10.37 mbpd
Product MPTS -345K to 3.33 mpbd
(probably the only bit of supportive news for the complex)

TTL DMD -0.4% to 21.24 mbpd
Gasoline DMD +1.4% to 9.58 mbpd
Distillate DMD +3.2% to 4.1 mbpd


So a slight build despite demand holding up very well in the face of higher interest rates, a slowing economy and higher pump prices that are starting to moderate now that the summer driving season is behind us. Aside from filling tanks ahead of winter, the whole complex looks pretty benign.

Also downgrades on the refiners on the back of lower refining margins. At this pace we may well see less money flowing into the sector from hedge funds at the end of SEP/beginning of OCT for the 4th quarter, and we may even see redemptions and movement out of the energy sector and into something more sexier like US government bonds? ; - )
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby drew » Fri 08 Sep 2006, 17:17:14

Good to see you've completely lost your mind today, Mr Bill!

What did someone steal your password and login?

;-)

Took awhile to find what you were refering to!


Oh, that Nexen is singing at me with her siren song-61, and I think maybe going down some more.

I didn't know stocks could sing till today.

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby cube » Sat 09 Sep 2006, 22:55:38

All the variables have conspired against crude to push it down:
1) hurricane season all huff but no puff
2) Iran drama plays like a broken record that nobody cares for
3) A lack of oil workers getting kidnapped in Nigeria
4) Prudhoe bay will be back online sooner
5) a "mega" oil find in gulf of Mexico
6) Israel invasion of Lebanon halted....ceasefire results
7) OPEC will probably keep the output on full bore
8 ) new report suggests housing slump in USA == economic slowdown
9) Hugo Chavez plays where's Waldo.......btw where did he go?

Did I miss anything? 8)
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby firestarter » Sat 09 Sep 2006, 23:58:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'A')ll the variables have conspired against crude to push it down:
1) hurricane season all huff but no puff
2) Iran drama plays like a broken record that nobody cares for
3) A lack of oil workers getting kidnapped in Nigeria
4) Prudhoe bay will be back online sooner
5) a "mega" oil find in gulf of Mexico
6) Israel invasion of Lebanon halted....ceasefire results
7) OPEC will probably keep the output on full bore
8 ) new report suggests housing slump in USA == economic slowdown
9) Hugo Chavez plays where's Waldo.......btw where did he go?

Did I miss anything? 8)


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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 02:28:34

Probing sub-$65 here in Brent at stops gave way to late selling in NYC with WTI as low as $65.65 this morning. Will go out on a limb here and suggest the whole complex will remain weak until at least the OCT contracts start maturing this week and next. Anecdotally, have seen a lot of turning points AFTER the front-month matures usually pushing the roll-over spread to either extremely wide or very narrow levels, in this case likely to be wide.

A strong dollar and weak metals are sapping any cross-commodity support for the complex. However, -16% is starting to look like a real pullback, and not just taking the foot off the accelorator ahead of year-end, so if there are to be bullish inputs per your list above they better start to reassert themselves soon before the great stampede out of commodities as an asset class gets fully underway in Q4'06!

Makes a close at or near $60 for year-end look more likely, which a month ago would have been considered extremely bearish given the long check-list of any number of reasons we might take out $80 and target $100. Ah, it is a truism, the fundamentals are always the clearest at the highs and at the lows.

I am starting the week on my backfoot. Last week was a wash-out with some stops at the absolute daily highs taking me out of short positions. I did sell into Friday afternoon's rally, but was too quick to take profit (at my support level, so at least disciplined), and missed this move from $66 to $65 on the breakdown. At these levels we start to get into oversold territory on the technicals, and therefore are vulnerable to a correction, BUT.... what could trigger it? A list of sanctions against Iran? I dunno if that is enough any more? We'll see?

Here is what Goldie Sachs has to say...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')nergy Weekly
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Price risk sharply biased to the upside

Much of the downside price risk has been priced into the market

Just as Brent led the market up in August, overshooting to the upside, Brent has led the market lower over the past several weeks, overshooting to the downside, as concerns over potential supply disruptions continued to ease. Not only did tensions around Iran’s nuclear dispute continue to ease following a growing opposition to the calls for sanctions against the Teheran government, but the hurricane season in the US Gulf Coast was downgraded once again this past week. Further, the announcement that BP would likely fully restore production in Alaska by the end of October and the approaching autumn refinery maintenance schedule, which was likely brought forward and made larger with the sharp decline in gasoline cracks, contributed to put additional pressure to oil prices.

We believe this pullback in prices is overdone and risks are to the upside

However, we believe that the recent sell-off in both crude oil and gasoline cracks has been overdone to the downside, as the market has already priced in much of the downside threats – political calm in the Middle East, the end of the hurricane season, a large refinery turnaround season, and a slowdown in economic activity. Going forward, we believe that the risks are now biased on the upside and are maintaining our 4Q2006 WTI price forecast of $75/bbl.

Current fundamentals remain supportive, but risks have increased

Despite the recent evidence of an economic slowdown, which was mostly in line with expectations and our underlying economic forecasts, oil demand in the United States and Asia continues to remain very robust. However, confirmation of the expected economic slowdown underscores the need for a cautious outlook on demand, as the risk rises that a sharper-than expected
deceleration could materialize, in particular because of the steep decline in the US housing market and the increasingly hawkish comments from Chinese policy makers.

Oil demand price effects have overwhelmed the income effects

In addition, the recent sell-off in prices has pushed retail prices down on a year-over-year basis and to their lowest levels since March of this year. Over the past year, the price effects have overwhelmed the income effects on demand growth. As a result, the sharp decline in retail prices will likely continue to support demand even as economic activity slows.


Okay, I am not sure I buy some of those arguments, but always nice to hear both sides of the supply & demand story. In my mind, falling demand means lower prices because of falling demand and lower margins, and not falling demand leads to lower prices which reinflates demand (at least not without some sort of decent time lag)?

How many times exactly does the consumer of last resort want his or her feet pulled from the fire? "Whew, dodged that bullet. Boy, that was close, too! Oh well, time to go to the Mall again. Only 104 shopping days until Christmas!"
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby truecougarblue » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 15:39:24

I'm back at cash for my speculative piece of the pie. I made some bucks on TOL shorting and miner shorting.

I'll be interested in the trade balance report tommorow. I'm really at a point that I'm seeing much more indecision in the market so I hesitate to make a strong commitment.

US housing market is toast, and to the extent that the economy is being propped up (totally) by bubble dollars I see a big old recession coming down the line. I'm beginning to wonder if we won't really see peak any time soon due to demand destruction.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby cube » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 15:49:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('firestarter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'A')ll the variables have conspired against crude to push it down:
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Did I miss anything? 8)


CERA sees another 25 mbd coming online by 2015.
25 mbd ehhh? That's Saudi Arabia multiple by 2 and then some.

I guess we better start sharpening those drill bits because we'll need to dig a hole all the way to China to get that much extra oil. :twisted:

BTW I also forgot to mention that the weekly DOE inventory numbers state we have enough oil to fill everybody's swimming pool. :roll:

However despite this there's still alot of time from now till the end of the year.....I think there will be one more "strong movement" ($10 rise) before the end of the year. I'll be waiting patiently for it.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Micki » Mon 11 Sep 2006, 23:36:10

Perhaps extremly short term view, but it looks as if both gold and oil are in reasonably (intermidiate) strong support area right now.
Just by watching the market action off and on the last couple of days it looks as if oil may have stabilized just on 65$.
Gold is too early to say after last nights stomp but coinsidently it also ended up in a support area. In OZ today we are seing some sell off of resource stocks. Thinking it may be time to get a few long (short term) shares again and stop loss if oil/gold fails support. (The grief doing that here in Oz is that commodities tend to get spanked in the US market and the shares then open with down gaps).
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 02:32:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', 'P')erhaps extremly short term view, but it looks as if both gold and oil are in reasonably (intermidiate) strong support area right now.
Just by watching the market action off and on the last couple of days it looks as if oil may have stabilized just on 65$.
Gold is too early to say after last nights stomp but coinsidently it also ended up in a support area. In OZ today we are seing some sell off of resource stocks. Thinking it may be time to get a few long (short term) shares again and stop loss if oil/gold fails support. (The grief doing that here in Oz is that commodities tend to get spanked in the US market and the shares then open with down gaps).


Goldie Sachs tends to agree with you (with a few caveats thrown in of course)...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')lobal Commodities
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Although GSCI returns turned negative year to date in August, led by a substantial sell-off in energy, we reiterate our constructive outlook for commodity returns and believe that the current lower index levels provide an attractive entry point for commodity investments. We believe that the downturn in oil prices and returns is substantially overdone. In contrast, nonenergy returns are still up sizably year to date, led by industrial metals, which are significantly more leveraged to emerging economies that continue to grow at an exceptionally strong pace. Nonetheless, confirmation of the expected moderate slowdown in the global
economy—with the Goldman Sachs Global Leading Indicator (GLI) now declining for three consecutive months—underscores the need for a cautious medium-term outlook on commodities demand, as the risk remains that a sharper-than-expected deceleration could
materialize. We continue to expect that even if cyclical weakness exerted further downward pressure on commodity markets in coming months, secular factors would continue to support both energy and metals prices at higher levels than in the past. Further, as we maintain that secular price supports will persist over the longer term, any downward pressure from cyclical weakness would likely prove short-lived.


However, they may be talking their own book as I am sure they earn more income from a strong move up in commodities and energy that supports the GSCI and emerging markets than vice versa, but then again when I spoke to them last week, their view on Russian country risk was a lot more friendly than when they had to slash trading positions and exposure limits after the correction in those markets in June.

In light of some out of the money calls in the WTI, we took the liberty of using yesterday's sell-off to load up on some energy stocks like SLB, HAL & VLO, which have come significantly off their highs on the back of lower crude and narrower refining margins. The idea being that they usually get sold-off when crude does, but even at these levels they should be able to make money and pay dividends. And aging infrastructure has to be maintained, just ask BP; offshore rigs and pipelines need to be repaired after the occasional hurricane comes through; the search for new fields goes on unabated; and refining is still the global bottleneck, so refining margins are not likely to stay at zero for long.

By the way, anyone know of any new refineries anywhere that have actually come online and are producing in 2006? I have not heard of any? Despite these high prices. Lot's of plans for the future, but Saddam had those as well didn't he?

It may be too early to call for a bottom, but yesterday's sell-off in NY time to $64 in the Brent, $65 in the WTI, coupled with a strong close, sets us up for a correction. How far I cannot tell, yet. Still, worth jumping on it early just in case.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby teemu » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 05:44:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'B')y the way, anyone know of any new refineries anywhere that have actually come online and are producing in 2006?


At least Neste Oil (www.nesteoil.com) have some new product line coming online this year or early next year.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 12 Sep 2006, 05:56:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teemu', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'B')y the way, anyone know of any new refineries anywhere that have actually come online and are producing in 2006?


At least Neste Oil (www.nesteoil.com) have some new refinery online this year or early next year.


Thanks, 2007
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')este Oil’s Porvoo refinery celebrated 40 years of operation today with the laying of the foundation stone of the site’s new biodiesel plant. The company is investing approx. EUR 100 million in the new facility, which will produce some 170,000 t/a of biodiesel when it comes on line by summer 2007. Based on Neste Oil-developed proprietary technology, the plant will use 100% renewable raw materials, in the form of vegetable oils and animal fats.


and end of 2006
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n addition to the biodiesel facility, another even larger project is under way at the Porvoo refinery. Valued at close to EUR 600 million and due to be commissioned during the final quarter of 2006, a new production line will produce over 1 million t/a of high-quality diesel fuel from heavy fuel oil.


so at least that is a small increase to refining capacity in Europe, which is good. I would imagine that during the switch-over to low sulfur diesel, ethanol enhanced gasoline and seasonal maintenance downtime that some other refiners also managed to improve efficiency and/or add capacity, but it is just although I have seen many JVs announced, they are mostly 2007-2010, so not contributing to lower prices or increased capacity today? Thanks again.
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