$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'm')att, who is building those nuke plants? Where are they being built? Who is investing in them?
To the best of my knowledge there is not a single new nuke plant currently under construction in the US. Not one. When will they be built?
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Why the gas price will equal the price for ethanol
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Re: Why the gas price will equal the price for ethanol
by matt21811 » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 16:12:19
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/reactors.htm
USA - 1 under construction.
13 proposed.
Does this change your doomerish thinking?
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Re: Why the gas price will equal the price for ethanol
by MonteQuest » Sat 12 Aug 2006, 16:26:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('matt21811', 'O')K. CTL for 30 years, with say, 2 decades to replace coal electricity with nuclear. Biofuel will do its part to stretch is all out a few years. Dots connected, with everything still running very normal way past the date when I'm dead.
You need to review this:
http://www.globalpublicmedia.com/lectures/461
If the current trend of oil decline continues at 8%, 50 % of oil production will be lost in less than 9 years.
You are dying that soon?
GTL loses 40% of it's energy as CO2. How are you going to sequester all that coal carbon? At what cost?
Ignore global warming?
Coal and electricty are still not liquid fuels and ethanol providing 4.7% of our fuel in 2012 is hardly enough.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'d also like to point out that US domestic production is fairly meaningless by itself. I think you can rest assured that the US will import biofuel if it is cheaper and poor countries will be very happy to have the chance to sell it. Global figures are more usefull.
Yep, they are:
http://www.earth-policy.org/Updates/200 ... 9_data.htm
US domestic production was 38% of world capacity in 2004, and has increased since then. Hardy meaningless.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') presume you are questioning the IEA 2025 figure. I don't really care when peak oil occurs. I'm thinking the IEA have a bit of an idea of what they're doing.
You don't? It doesn't matter when oil peaks? Hmmm...
And no, I am not questioning the peak date, but the 1% projection for wind/solar by 2025.
How far off can that be?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ow I think about it, you might have been asking about the wind figure. I'm fine with that figure too.
Then how can they be a factor if they only contribute 1%?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')The law of diminishing returns argues otherwise. Most of the big efficiency gains were made in the 1970's and 80's.
I doubt it. Especially considering how low the price of energy went in the interim. I dont think we even tried and the figured doubled. With high oil prices just hitting, I think we'll be seeing some effort and big returns.
You doubt the law of diminishing returns? The data is there, google it. Most of the big gains came from industry.
