[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'I') am for real, alot of people here have an attitude problem.

[green_achers]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')on't get me wrong. Cleaving to goofy, unsupportable optimism about the future is a great way to pass through life.

[Bas]

really, two years ago I was a big POdoomer myself, but having read alot, having done research, having taken my time to digest it all, I've become indeed a (relative) big optimist. I do not deny we have a big recession on our hands within a couple of years, and I can't wait for it, but for diffrent reasons than the "dreamers of doom and gloom". The reason; I've become much more concerned about global climate change.

I know my first post was almost ridiculously positive, but that was on purpose, for the sake of contrast in order to shake some people out of their passive pessimistic dogmatic attitude.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'r')eally, two years ago I was a big POdoomer myself, but having read alot, having done research, having taken my time to digest it all, I've become indeed a (relative) big optimist. I do not deny we have a big recession on our hands within a couple of years, and I can't wait for it, but for diffrent reasons than the "dreamers of doom and gloom". The reason; I've become much more concerned about global climate change.

[Bas]

no, most of what I learned originated from this forum, when i was reading it last year. PO problems will be short term when you consider climate change (but sure that's mostly beyond your personal life expectancy anyway). And btw I do remember the quality of threads and posters (with scientific backgrounds) was much higher last year, for myself I have a scientific background in economics.

[Heineken]

I think we have a bit of an "English-as-a-second-language" problem here, bas, so I'm going to get off your back. But beyond the language problem, I can't really see what point you're trying to make, overall, in this forum. That doomers should just straighten up and plant a smile on their faces?

I do hope things turn out as well as you hope they will.

[Bas]

well, don't be mistaken, like I said the road will be rocky, all of history has been a rocky road. The 80's economic crisis hit esspecially hard here in Holland, at the time it was called "the Dutch disease", Holland made a very strong comeback in the 90's though, being praised as the inventors of "the third way", by Bill Clinton himself among others. Anyway, what I was trying to say is that PO is by no means the end of the world, people here seem to lack the understanding of feedback systems within psychology, politics and economics among other things....

[Bas]

ah yes...the image at the top of the page is taken from Jehovah Witness literature exposing itself as a false prophet, in case anybody was wondering.

[rogerhb]

No comparison with Jehovah's witnesses, I'm not trying to 'save' people I haven't met before.

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'N')o comparison with Jehovah's witnesses, I'm not trying to 'save' people I haven't met before.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'N')o comparison with Jehovah's witnesses, I'm not trying to 'save' people I haven't met before.

[Bas]

blah! that's all I have to contribute right now...

[quizz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'n')one of her family, father, mother, her sisters, uncles, cousins or her old friends which she grew up with is allowed to talk to her anymore because she left the "Organisation"

[Lighthouse]

Ah please shut up. You don't know what you are talking about.

She slept with me half a year before the wedding. She fell in love with me, an atheist, worst an engineer who believes in science and questions everything. Loving me was her sin.

Btw, last February we have been married for 23 years and have enjoyed every single day of it.

So please shut up. Trust me, you do not want to discuss your believes with me.

(PS: Sorry MonteQuest but I had to post this)

[Bas]

I heard lots of witnesses pull the fading trick to avoid being shunned, they are just considered inactive then...

[quizz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'A')h please shut up.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('quizz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'A')h please shut up.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '.')..Why does your concern about climate change make you unable to wait for a big recession? (Go back and read your own quoted words carefully.)

Start making sense.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '.')..Why does your concern about climate change make you unable to wait for a big recession? (Go back and read your own quoted words carefully.)

Start making sense.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '.')..Why does your concern about climate change make you unable to wait for a big recession? (Go back and read your own quoted words carefully.)

Start making sense.