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THE 55 MPH Thread (merged)
Re: Hildebeast pushes for 55 MPH speed limit
by rwwff » Wed 31 May 2006, 00:32:45
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('foslrock', 'J')ump the abyss. Boy is that a good one. You texassans don't even have a plan.
Hmm. You don't like the plan, thus you say that its not a plan. That doesn't sound particularly forthright. I was, after all, merely stating the Bush/Clinton/Bush plan as it appeared to me.
Now, I am perfectly content to acknowledge that lots of people have varying plans on how to approach the problem. Some, I believe will create the disaster, some I think will be neutral in that regard. I've not seen any plan that I believe will solve the problem, and since I personally don't believe in the disaster end sequence, I tend to feel the market system should be left alone to come to its own compromises. I'm not certain that will work either, but I give it the best odds.
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Re: Hildebeast pushes for 55 MPH speed limit
by whatpeak » Wed 31 May 2006, 00:45:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'D')amn that evil cow. Damn her to Hell!
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May 24, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In a surprise move yesterday, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton called for "most of the country" to return to a speed limit of 55 mph in an effort to slash fuel consumption.
"The 55-mile speed limit really does lower gas usage. And wherever it can be required, and the people will accept it, we ought to do it," Clinton said at the National Press Club.
Before sounding off on the benefits of a lower speed limit, Clinton called for a combination of tax incentives, the use of more ethanol-based fuel and a $50 billion fund for new energy research to cut the consumption of foreign oil 50 percent by 2025.
She also pushed for half of all the nation's gas stations to have ethanol pumps by 2015, and for every gas station to have them by 2025.
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May 24, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In a surprise move yesterday, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton called for "most of the country" to return to a speed limit of 55 mph in an effort to slash fuel consumption.
"The 55-mile speed limit really does lower gas usage. And wherever it can be required, and the people will accept it, we ought to do it," Clinton said at the National Press Club.
Before sounding off on the benefits of a lower speed limit, Clinton called for a combination of tax incentives, the use of more ethanol-based fuel and a $50 billion fund for new energy research to cut the consumption of foreign oil 50 percent by 2025.
She also pushed for half of all the nation's gas stations to have ethanol pumps by 2015, and for every gas station to have them by 2025.
Old spec might be on to something...
http://www.claudiocaprara.it/archives/hillary%20Clinton%20su%20Spy.jpg
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Re: Hildebeast pushes for 55 MPH speed limit
by foslrock » Wed 31 May 2006, 00:55:45
Well, one thing is for damn sure. The west coast, and northeast will mitigate themselves out of the crisis well before the neanderthals from texass trudge along and figure it out. That i'm certain of. And you're kidding yourself to think these people are going to just become suburban farmers on their little postage stamps, which is mostly taken up by their homes.
Other areas of the country are already starting to adapt and move beyond oil. I don't have much faith for many areas in the southwest, midwest, or sunbelt, though. They seem to not be getting it. They'll definitely combust without cheap oil.
The freemarket won't work. Not without oil companies subsidizing other arenas of the market attempting to move beyond oil. Do you really think most execs in that industry are about to sell these companies oil at much cheaper prices, that are below market value? I don't. Oil obviously provides the most efficient btu's to supply the heavy equipment and manufacturing that is necessary to build such a world.
Other areas of the country are already starting to adapt and move beyond oil. I don't have much faith for many areas in the southwest, midwest, or sunbelt, though. They seem to not be getting it. They'll definitely combust without cheap oil.
The freemarket won't work. Not without oil companies subsidizing other arenas of the market attempting to move beyond oil. Do you really think most execs in that industry are about to sell these companies oil at much cheaper prices, that are below market value? I don't. Oil obviously provides the most efficient btu's to supply the heavy equipment and manufacturing that is necessary to build such a world.
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Re: Hildebeast pushes for 55 MPH speed limit
by jesus_of_suburbia_old » Wed 31 May 2006, 01:05:38
You're, umm....kind of a jerk.
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Re: Hildebeast pushes for 55 MPH speed limit
by rwwff » Wed 31 May 2006, 01:09:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('foslrock', 'V')enezuala so that they can't keep with their ugly ass sprawl homes in dallass, 'tonio, and houston.
Umm, last time I checked, it was New England, California, and Florida that were winning the title of most rediculous actors in the housing market. My nice little 1500 sq ft house was modestly priced, its easy to keep cold in the summer, the mortgage payment is light as can be, and the house is entirely adequate.
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')The freemarket won't work. Not without oil companies subsidizing other arenas of the market that are moving beyond oil with much cheaper prices, that are below market value. Oil obviously provides the most efficient btu's to supply the heavy equipment and manufacturing that is necessary to build such a world.
See, now there's a lefty proposal but with no balance. You want to hack the oil companies, but heaven forbid anyone touch any liberal program or policy that gets in the way of addressing the problem.
Would you accept opening the coast of California and Oregon to offshore drilling, in exchange for significant leavies placed on the oil companies to subsidize alternative energy approaches? Its just a tiny little step, but it would be ever so comforting to the right to find out that you are really interested in the energy problem, and aren't just using Peak Oil to further the political policy preferences of the left.
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